<div dir="ltr">Thank all of you for the clarification.</div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Cleber Rosa <<a href="mailto:crosa@redhat.com" target="_blank">crosa@redhat.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrei Stepanov" <<a href="mailto:astepano@redhat.com">astepano@redhat.com</a>> > To: "Olav Philipp Henschel" <<a href="mailto:olavph@linux.vnet.ibm.com">olavph@linux.vnet.ibm.com</a>> > Cc: <a href="mailto:avocado-devel@redhat.com">avocado-devel@redhat.com</a> > Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 4:26:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Avocado-devel] avocado doesn't see plugins > > Thank you. > > It would be very nice to have in the documentation few words about "python > setup.py" process. To understand what is going behind this command. Why it > is necessary. Just for keeping whole clear picture. The steps to install Avocado from source are documented here: <a href="http://avocado-framework.readthedocs.org/en/0.31.0/GetStartedGuide.html#generic-installation-from-a-git-repository" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://avocado-framework.readthedocs.org/en/0.31.0/GetStartedGuide.html#generic-installation-from-a-git-repository</a> That includes the "python setup.py" process. Then, simply because it's a "get started guide", it should not discuss *why* the steps given are necessary. That was, in turn, documented in the plugins section: <a href="http://avocado-framework.readthedocs.org/en/0.31.0/Plugins.html#registering-plugins" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://avocado-framework.readthedocs.org/en/0.31.0/Plugins.html#registering-plugins</a> Sorry if wasn't crystal clear. We sincerely intended for the process to be as smooth as possible, but every single software upgrade can (and usually do) bring breakages. <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Olav Philipp Henschel < > <a href="mailto:olavph@linux.vnet.ibm.com">olavph@linux.vnet.ibm.com</a>> wrote: > > > I've recently asked about this, the command is: > > python setup.py develop --user > > > > > > Olav > > > > > > On 06-01-2016 15:18, Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues wrote: > > > >> There's a flag to do a user local install instead of system wide, > >> which I forgot, but Lukas might remember it. > >> > >> If you are going to over simplify what was done, yes, we are 'forcing' > >> the user to install a pointer for the libraries inside a system wide > >> library dir. Now if you use the local install, that will be restricted > >> into the user's profile. > >> > >> I promise this was all done for a good reason. Having plugins > >> installed as setuptools entry points is more clear and standard than > >> our previous custom method. > >> > >> Unfortunately, my new job's assignments are leaving me busy, so I have > >> limited time to spend with this. I'll try to help by answering and > >> delegating tasks, like I just did :) > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Andrei Stepanov <<a href="mailto:astepano@redhat.com">astepano@redhat.com</a>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks, it helps. > >>> > >>> Above step definitely breaks system integrity. This is a bit unclear. > >>> Why do > >>> we install development version into system? Do we have some documentation > >>> that brings more light on this? Or some policy? Or.... I understand that > >>> Avocado is under active development, but, Is there some advice for > >>> Avocado > >>> users? What version should we use and develop for? > >>> > >>> Spice-qe team uses Avocado from git, mainly because there is no RPMs for > >>> all > >>> OS versions/architectures/releases/betas/alphas/etc that we are > >>> interested > >>> in. > >>> > >>> Could you give more information about setup.py step? Do I right > >>> understand, > >>> that you force us to install avocado into system? Before it NewYear it > >>> was > >>> possible to use Avocado directly from git repo (make links, all this > >>> configs), but not now. Did I miss something? > >>> > >>> Sorry, if I wrote something wrong. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues < > >>> <a href="mailto:lookkas@gmail.com">lookkas@gmail.com</a>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Did you do: > >>>> > >>>> python setup.py install > >>>> or > >>>> python setup.py develop > >>>> > >>>> In both the avocado source dir and the plugin dir? > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Andrei Stepanov <<a href="mailto:astepano@redhat.com">astepano@redhat.com</a>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hello > >>>>> > >>>>> Any clue about : > >>>>> > >>>>> pip list | grep stevedore > >>>>> stevedore (1.10.0) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> # ./scripts/avocado vt-bootstrap --vt-type spice --vt-no-downloads > >>>>> --vt-update-config > >>>>> usage: avocado [-h] [-v] [--config CONFIG_FILE] {} ... > >>>>> avocado: error: argument subcommand: invalid choice: 'vt-bootstrap' > >>>>> (choose > >>>>> from ) > >>>>> [root@spice-bkr02 avocado]# > >>>>> > >>>>> # ./scripts/avocado --help > >>>>> usage: avocado [-h] [-v] [--config CONFIG_FILE] {} ... > >>>>> > >>>>> Avocado Test Runner > >>>>> > >>>>> optional arguments: > >>>>> -h, --help show this help message and exit > >>>>> -v, --version show program's version number and exit > >>>>> --config CONFIG_FILE Use custom configuration from a file > >>>>> > >>>>> subcommands: > >>>>> valid subcommands > >>>>> > >>>>> {} subcommand help > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Avocado-devel mailing list > >>>>> <a href="mailto:Avocado-devel@redhat.com">Avocado-devel@redhat.com</a> > >>>>> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/avocado-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/avocado-devel</a> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Lucas > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Avocado-devel mailing list > > <a href="mailto:Avocado-devel@redhat.com">Avocado-devel@redhat.com</a> > > <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/avocado-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/avocado-devel</a> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Avocado-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:Avocado-devel@redhat.com">Avocado-devel@redhat.com</a> > <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/avocado-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/avocado-devel</a> > </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>