Linux GUI FAQ/tutorial?
trev.saunders at gmail.com
trev.saunders at gmail.com
Fri Jan 22 03:03:16 UTC 2010
Hi,
really? even alt sysRQ k won't kill the editor? I recognize that speakup running in kernel mode means that it can panic the whole kernel, but ...
I don't use speakup much and don't use either of those editors.
Trev
> It's possible to learn to copy and paste text using the speakup clipboard
> and there's a good reason to learn that clipboard too. You can move stuff
> from beyond any confines of any editor. Position the cursor on the screen
> where you want it with speakup keys on the numpad and hit the slash key on
> the numpad and you've just set a mark. Next move the cursor either to the
> end of the screen or the end of your block and hit the star key just to
> the right of that slash key and speakup will say cut. Don't worry since
> nothing was cut in the sense windows uses that. What just happened was
> you marked the end of your block and all that text between the beginning
> and end of your text block is now in the speakup clipboard. Next find
> where you want to put the text and get there with the speakup cursor
> controls on the numpad and hit insert-slash both keys on the numpad and
> your text that's on the clipboard just got pasted where you put your
> cursor. Now this is interesting. If you use emacs, emacs does not get in
> the way of the speakup clipboard and its working but elvis and ed very
> definitely do and actually lock up. I've had to reboot the system more
> than once until I found me a useable editor.On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Octavian
> R?snita wrote:
>
> > Hi Trev,
> >
> > From: <trev.saunders at gmail.com>
> >> Personally I prefer yasr to speakup, and like vim as an editor. vi m
> >> works well with yasr, and is useable with speakup.
> >
> > Well, maybe my espectations are wrong because they are based mostly on my
> > Linux - cli experience in a SecureCRT console from Windows, but I was lost
> > each time vi started as a default editor.
> >
> > To be more specific, I would like to be able to use an editor that lets me
> to
> > use the arrow keys to read the text line by line and word by word and char
> by
> > char with up and down arrows, control+left and right arrows, or simply the
> > left and right arrows, allow me to select the text using the shift key,
> > selected text that can be read by the screen reader when I want to, to be
> > able to copy/paste the text from a program into another with a simple
> > combination of key, execute the currently open program source code with a
> > specified interpreter that also offers me the possibility of specifying som
> e
> > parameters, find/replace using regular expressions with a simple combinatio
> n
> > of keys, and very few other things.
> >
> > I ask if these are possible, because as I said, when vi was opened in an SS
> H
> > console and I tried to use the arrow keys, I used to hear only some beep
> > sounds, without beeing able to read anything, and instead of giving
> > combinations of keys for exiting/saving like Control+S, Control+Q or
> > something like that, I needed to type simple text commands like ":", which
> is
> > very strange for a modern editor.
> >
> >> I think by far the best option is mutt.
> >
> > I guess mutt is accessible under Linux. I have tried a Windows version that
>
> > had big accessibility issues.
> > Is mutt able to create/display html mail messages?
> > Can it group the messages by conversation? Can we define more folders and
> > rules for moving the messages automaticly in those folders based on some
> > conditions?
> > I guess the answer is yes, but I want to know what I should expect.
> >
> >> agreed, bash makes a pretty excellent file manager.
> >
> > Well, for some tasks yes. I would be very happy if Windows command prompt
> > would have the features of bash. But for some tasks a file manager like
> > Windows Explorer is much better, but it is good if there is one for Linux
> > also.
> >
> > However as I said, my biggest fear remains the text editor. Under Windows
> > there is no text editor without issues. The best is TextPad, but it doesn't
>
> > fully support UTF-8 which is very bad.
> > I have tried tens of editors under Windows and all of them have issues, but
>
> > under Linux I think I don't have so many editors to choose unfortunately.
> >
> > Octavian
> >
> >
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