<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.0.6603.0"> <TITLE>RE: Is there a list for blind Mac users and programmers? (OT)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY>  Hi John. Remember me? You might prefer I let someone else answer. > Does anyone know about such a list? If not, does anyone care to volunteer to start such a thing? The demand will be high I think after Tiger (OS X 10.4) ships with its integrated screen reader Voice Over. If the answer to both questions is no, what public lists (egroups, geocities, etc.) have a good reputation for being accessible? I have used the Apple discussion boards, but not with a screen reader. <A HREF="http://discussions.info.apple.com/">http://discussions.info.apple.com/</A> > Will the Tiger release of OS X support braille access? IMHO this question should be directed towards the Braille device manufacturers. For $500 they could have been working with the pre-release of Tiger for about a year now. For another $500 they could buy a brand new Mac. They really have no good excuse for not having this on their radar. <A HREF="http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/tigerkit.html">http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/tigerkit.html</A> Any device that work with BSD Unix on USB ports should at least work at the OS X command prompt. I am not sure how useful this is. Some day I hope to try to get NFBtrans working under the OS X command prompt, but I have just not been able to make the time. The Macintosh has since Jaguar (OS X 10.2) included an intriguing check box option under the Universal Access System Preference for "Enable Access for assistive devices". My early inquiries about this lead me to believe that this is a hook primarily for dynamic Braille displays. It is unchecked by default, as I understand it, because to do otherwise is a security risk. All this is way over my head technically. In the few short years since this option first appeared I have NOT heard even rumors of any developer taking advantage of the feature. Maybe this could be made to work with brailletty? </BODY> </HTML>