*message I still say that arch is the best for accessibility, as we get all the current stuff, and the AUR, Arch user repository, is absolutely wonderful, even having programs like OcrDesktop, which I’ve not found any distros like Fedora. I think, though, that there should be maybe two distros for the blind: one for absolute newbies, and another for more experienced users who want to get up and going, but still have the power to progress in learning. Sonar filled that second goal well: It had accessibility, desktops built-in, and ran on n Arch derivative. The reason it failed is because the distro under it, Manjaro, fell into disarray, bringing Sonar down with it. That’s just my $0.02￠, and I’ll be happy to stay with arch Linux, Emacs, Emacspeak, and Voxin for my usage because my gosh, that’s what works for me. Sure, if Emacspeak’s eSpeak support becomes better, I’ll definitely go with it, as it has more languages and is being updated, but besides all that, Debian is too outdated, Fedora doesn’t have the packages I want, Sonar is dead, so yeah. Arch is my only real option, and it took plenty of time getting it to work. If I didn’t have the kind folken on the IRC network, I would still be running Fedora, or even just trudging down a road full of Windows emptiness. – Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Tony Baechler <tony@baechler.net> writes: > Sorry for the late reply, but see comments below. > > On 3/16/2017 3:36 PM, Joel Roth wrote: >> Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> …we, as a community, don’t have an actual unified distro >>> to call our own. Sure, Vinux is a decent distro, but it’s >>> lacking a lot of useful features outside of accessibility. > > OK, but why do we, as a community, need a special distro? Yes, it’s > free software, so there is certainly nothing stopping you as long as > you realize it’s your pet distro along with the about 300 others on > distrowatch.com. I would much rather have a popular, mainstream distro > which includes great accessibility like Debian and derivatives. > >> >> I’m not sure how things are at present, but in the past, >> Debian has shown some commitment to supporting >> accessibility[1], including at the installer level[2]. > > Yes, Debian still supports accessibility. Every alpha release of D-I > has accessibility features and fixes. > >> >> This is not the same as a special-purpose distribution, and >> I think the pages were written some time ago. Still I would >> think that some effort would be worthwhile, and would >> benefit all Debian derivatives, which could include >> a accessbility-centric distribution. >> >> 1. <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility">https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility</a> >> 2. <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility">https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility</a> > > These pages should be fairly current and are often updated by Debian > developers like Samuel Thibault. > > _ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list</a>