[Devtools] Fabric8 futures

[Gorkem Ercan]

On 13 Jun 2018, at 16:46, Aslak Knutsen wrote:

> Anything can be wrapped in a Maven plugin.
>
> It would be preferable if it was not a Maven plugin, then it just might be
> usable outside of that target audience.

Sure, I meant whether we are assuming a maven plugin as a deliverable?


>
> -aslak-
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:22 PM Gorkem Ercan <gercan at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 11 Jun 2018, at 10:04, Andrew Lee Rubinger wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Burr Sutter <bsutter at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Based on the "other thread"...
>>>>
>>>> It does seem to me that fabric8-maven-plugin is mission critical to
>>>> our
>>>> developer experience.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or at least some incarnation of a Java language-specific adaptor to
>>> oc, yes.
>>>
>>
>> What do you mean by adaptor? Are we still assuming a maven plugin or
>> something else?
>>
>>
>>> S,
>>> ALR
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, for the parties who have been "naysayers", can we drop the "nays"
>>>> and
>>>> focus just on "making it more awesome"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Max Andersen <manderse at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Roland - if you are seeing OpenShift.io based fixes that don’t
>>>>> make
>>>>> sense please speak up. I didn’t see any feedback on the roadmap
>>>>> request for
>>>>> inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The intent is for sure not to diverge away. We want to work together
>>>>> on
>>>>> this rather than see even more new forks.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes gofabric8 etc. is also not of use for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole images situation we should work on aligning as that also
>>>>> relate
>>>>> to middleware etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> /max
>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 May 2018, at 18:44, Roland Huss <rhuss at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Burr,
>>>>>
>>>>> let me try to comment from a Fuse perspective:
>>>>>
>>>>> * We are still committed to the fabric8 base images (s2i [1] and
>>>>> non-s2i
>>>>> [2]) as they are the only community images available. We will
>>>>> continue to
>>>>> use them in the future FIS releases (at least upstream).
>>>>>
>>>>> * The fabric8-maven-plugin's [3] scope has diverged from our use
>>>>> cases,
>>>>> so we plan to explore new ways of providing a way to leverage
>>>>> OpenShift
>>>>> builds and deployments for the FIS quickstarts. I.e. fmp's scope
>>>>> gets
>>>>> aligned currently to its usage in openshift.io, drifting away from
>>>>> being
>>>>> a general purpose plugin. Also, many features (like gofabric8, helm,
>>>>> cluster installation, .. support) are of no use for us, so we don't
>>>>> want to
>>>>> maintain them for no obvious reason.
>>>>> We have some initial ideas, but nothing concrete. So happy to start
>>>>> a
>>>>> discussion with Devtools, RHOAR and you how to align plans.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Fabric8's docker-maven-plugin [4] will be still supported in the
>>>>> upstream (it has been productised only as an integral part of f-m-p)
>>>>>
>>>>> These our current plan but we too are interested in what the dev
>>>>> tools
>>>>> team is planning on doing, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards ...
>>>>> ... roland
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]: https://github.com/fabric8io-images/s2i
>>>>> [2]: https://github.com/fabric8io-images/java
>>>>> [3]: https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8-maven-plugin
>>>>> [4]: https://github.com/fabric8io/docker-maven-plugin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 9:45 PM Burr Sutter <bsutter at redhat.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did we ever come to agreement on keeping F8 alive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specifically the
>>>>>> base docker images
>>>>>> maven plugin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bit.ly/msa-instructions still relies on these tools and that is
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> one of our most successful assets (seen in
>>>>>> bit.ly/microservicesvideo)
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