Anyone with a RHN Satellite Server can do the entite media history from the Kickstartable Trees in 5 minutes. I.e., I've done it many times over the years, even recently off-list to many. What I've heard is that some here will only accept a specific, actual statement from Red Hat on its own entitlement history. So doing such, which I've also done, is moot. I.e., we continue to have a lot of interpretation. <div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 23, 2012 12:30 PM, "inode0" <<a href="mailto:inode0@gmail.com">inode0@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Toshio Kuratomi <<a href="mailto:a.badger@gmail.com">a.badger@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > If you can list for us what actual channels are the equivalent of the old > AS/AP then we have something else that we can try to use to define logically > which channels should not be overlapped with. If you've found this > information somewhere then giving it to us will be a valuable addition to > the conversation. Otherwise, we'll have to continue to assume that there > isn't an actual understanding of what that is and we'll have to continue to > try to define it ourselves with a somewhat arbitrary division. I am willing to do some work here to attempt to sort this out since I think having a clear policy that EPEL users understand is worth the bother. I have media going back to RHEL3 and can sort through what came on it, which I think is a fair definition of what is part of "RHEL" proper prior to the release of RHEL6. I do want to observe that there was a media change in RHEL5 which added some things to the media which required entitlements that go beyond a RHEL server subscription so there is a transition point of sorts at RHEL5. At a glance I'm guessing this added several items which include clustering and GFS, load balancing, and some virtualization bits. Another observation that is important is that "comes on the installation media" doesn't cut it any more with the release of RHEL6 since half of RHEL6 isn't distributed on media due to its size growing so dramatically but simply adding the optional channel to what RHEL6 media contains seems to me to include what previously would have been distributed via the media with the possible exception of some or all of the Add-On channels which also may have been included on RHEL5 media. So one question I have is whether it is worth the effort to go back beyond RHEL5 when looking at this now? Since Red Hat changes this up every release I doubt EPEL should be bound forever by whatever Red Hat did in 2004. Where do we want to draw the baseline now? John _______________________________________________ epel-devel-list mailing list <a href="mailto:epel-devel-list@redhat.com">epel-devel-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel-list</a> </blockquote></div>