<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Christopher Aillon wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:4A0DC216.9070601@redhat.com" type="cite">On 05/15/2009 09:52 AM, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: If the free speech pie is made with good ingredients, everyone will want it. If the free speech pie is made with rusty nails, cyanide, motor oil and battery acid, I'm sure as hell not going to eat it. </blockquote> So all you want is the good and not the bad? "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin If you would give up your free speech pie, because of vitriol and offensive people, then you do not deserve free speech. <blockquote cite="mid:4A0DC216.9070601@redhat.com" type="cite"> There are people who feel violated to the very core of their being which seriously hurts their feelings. Several people have taken great offense recently at ML discussions when they have been personally attacked. A friend was looking for information on Fedora for some reason, google pointed her to a thread, and she now has a sour impression of Fedora based solely on the ML being so vile. It's one thing to say what you want, it's another thing to intentionally hurt others and even more so to intentionally hurt people while the whole world watches. </blockquote> Here in the US, at least, you do not have a right not to be offended. If you cannot (or your friend cannot) handle this... then perhaps you (or your friend) do not deserve free speech. Lyos Gemini Norezel </body> </html>