Hi Nayyar, I agree don't completely agree with you on the point of the probation period (but I totaly understand your feelings). There is probably a probation period because that makes is less easy for non-serious people to order T-shirts / DVD's, etc. I guess there's a complete other mentality in your country (Pakistan, relaxed people, and not very selfish. Correct me if I'm wrong), but here in The Netherlands that think: "Anything I can get is good. If I can get free T-Shirts, let 'm come! No matter whether there's a Fedora-logo on it or not." On the point about the meetings, I'd like to add something. I don't have critizisms at the way things go right now, but please keep the following in your mind in the future, maybe there will come a situation where this information can be helpfull: I'm not able to make it to a meeting. At 14:00 UTC I'm at school, and at 22:00 I'm sleeping. Only in holidays I'm able to make it to both meetings. Probably I'm not the only one with such 'problems'. So I think the activity of an Ambassador doesn't have very much to do with being at meetings. Take me as an example, I'm quite active as an Ambassador: Translating the FedoraFAQ, writing guides on Dutch Fedora-community site's, spreading news about Fedora in Dutch, organising a meeting In Real Life, etc. Regards, Thijs <div>On 1/12/06, Nayyar Ahmed <<a href="mailto:nayyares@gmail.com">nayyares@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello All: I have just joined Fedora Project as Ambassador, I have seen quite importance of being an active member in Ambassador List, but I want to get the idea, whether this is mandatory to be in the meeting, to get the award of ACTIVE MEMBER, even if we can get meeting minutes and we have access to mailing-list, in my case I am a very besy person, but i am a true lover of Fedora, i d'nt have time to be in meeting but i can read those meeting minutes in my best free time and get the information i.e. what happened in meeting. I am facing a lot of problems in conducting my first ever Fedora Workshop in my region, as i d'nt have access to supporting stuff(DVD's. etc.) due a single reason i.e. i am new and not an active member, in my opinion this is not wiser that we restrict a person to give his best time to a cause which is non-commercial activity. I think if a person come and say, okay i will work to promote Fedora its mean he/she is a serious person. I seriously object this rule that a person should show some active performance to be in the Ambassador list and to get fedora supporting stuff. In my opinion any body who need fedora support material and other things must first submit a proposal to an authority and if that authority find that the proposal is good and in favor of fedoraproject then should grant him/her with the required things he/she need. Thank you. -- Nayyar Ahmad CEO, OSSP, Pakistan. Email: <a href="mailto:nayyar@ossp.com.pk">nayyar@ossp.com.pk</a> Cell: +92 333 9139461 Office: +92 91 5846548 Web: <a href="http://www.ossp.com.pk">www.ossp.com.pk </a> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com">Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list"> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list</a> </blockquote></div>