<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> + <br> <br> susmit shannigrahi wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:ffadd1240902181856n3ecb4242wf2f075c3307d973a@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">We had such discussion twice or more since Ambassadors come to life. If you take a look at the past years M-L archive you will find that, at the end of the discussion, the conclusions were that nobody should be removed even if inactive: we SHOULD concentrate on active members. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> This is not about active/inactive thing. This is about *dead* ambassadors. They are different. I agree nobody should be removed if inactive, they need mentoring. I don't agree that nobody should be removed even if he left the project. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I can assure you that actually is possible to understand who is active or not: take a look at event reports, M-L activity, IRC presence and, eveteamsn if we didn't see them, to the thousands of micro events around the earth (LUG meetings etc). All those facts should encourage us not to think at the inactive side, but working improving active ambassadors experience. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I am, in fact many of us are not at all interested in knowing who are inactive. We want the ambassadors who are not anymore with fedora to be removed, just because of the simple fact is these are coming into our way with their dead wiki pages. Almost all the other teams do their house cleaning. Doc team does, packaging team does. So what's the problem with us? inode0 said a nice thing on IRC that if we don't do house keeping, we will end up with 20000 pages of ambassadors and 90% of them unresponsive. Also I have problem with dead ambassadors personally. When people cone us to me and say "Fedora ambassadors are non responsive...in spite of having 120 Ambassadors for India, nobody helped us", I feel bad. This was not because we are inactive, this person went to the wiki page of some local ambassador who are dead. So he didn't got any reply from any of them in spite of repeated emails. If we choose too ignore the issue, these allegations will increase rapidly in near future. I am not, rather we are not ok with that. Thannks. </pre> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Best Regards, Jason Singapore Fedora Ambassador <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low</a> VoIP = <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="sip:jasonbenedict@fedoraproject.org">sip:jasonbenedict@fedoraproject.org</a> ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ </pre> </body> </html>