<div class="gmail_quote">2009/2/21 David Ramsey <<a href="mailto:diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com">diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div> Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) I appreciate reading everyone's post. I concur with John's proposal. :)<div class="Ih2E3d"> > I propose we do the following now. > > (1) Stop further discussion of putting labels of active and inactive > on ambassadors. We are all Fedora ambassadors, let's leave it at that. </div>Sounds like a plan to me.<div class="Ih2E3d"> > (2) Work with FAmSCo to solve the actual problem that began this > discussion and create an effective way for our community to contact > ambassadors and for the non-Fedora community to contact us. This can > be done without creating any new bureaucracy that burdens Fedora > ambassadors. Several reasonable suggestions that accomplish this have > already been offered for consideration. </div>True.<div class="Ih2E3d"> > Let's take a collective deep breath. </div>+1 Please have a good day and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:00:39 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution > From: <a href="mailto:inode0@gmail.com" target="_blank">inode0@gmail.com</a><div class="Ih2E3d"> > To: <a href="mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> > </div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Johan Hasan <<a href="mailto:johanhsn@gmail.com" target="_blank">johanhsn@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > Just want to say hi and let you know, that I am still exist :) > > Hi Johan, > > I could not be more proud to be your fellow Fedora ambassador and hope > while you are visiting here I might get the chance to meet you in > person one day. > > Your story and the stories of others in this thread remind me of what > bonds us together and that we should take the greatest care to not > break those bonds over something trivial. > > We participate spreading the message of Fedora in small and large > ways, in small and large communities, and with small and large > effects. Losing one Johan or one Gordon or one Emilio by continuing > down this path is a price that is too high to pay. We need to trust > each other as ambassadors to do what is right, promote Fedora as best > we can, in the ways we can, at the times we can. > > > I have given lecturer in Introduction in IT using Fedora for my students. > > The lecturing delivered using project based learning besides instructional. > > In 20th December 2008, I was introducing Fedora 10 and workshop to a small > > society in Surabaya, freely. But the participants for Fedora workshop aren't > > really much, just about 15 person. Maybe because the time was too tight and > > I didn't do a marketing very well. I also copy Fedora-10 for 1000 pieces > > with my own money for giving to others freely. A half of them were supported > > by local vendors then, so they give it as a souvenir in the computer > > exhibition. > > > > I am Fedora Ambassador in Indonesia since last year, but I still have no > > chance to meet my colleague from Indonesia. There are six fedora Ambassador > > from Indonesia including me (it is still small number for the country with > > the population more than 237 million peoples). The one I have contacted and > > chatted was Indrayana from Jakarta. Perhaps one day I can meet my other > > colleagues. > > > > Right now, I am in Kansas City until June 2008 since I have sent by my > > university to learn about entrepreneurship from Kauffman Foundation. So > > maybe I can not active for a while, but still happy if I can meet other > > Fedora Ambassador in USA. Tomorrow, I will go to Stanford for a week and the > > next following week, I will be in Boston and after that I will come back to > > Kansas City. Perhaps, I can learn some idea about Fedora from colleagues in > > USA. > > Please stop by #fedora-ambassadors on freenode and chat with us any > time. And you are more than welcome to participate in our FAmNA > meetings (the next one will be in early March). We might learn more > from you than you will from us, we'd love to talk with you. > > > By the way, if there are some Fedora Ambassador visit to Surabaya - > > Indonesia, please contact me. I am really welcome. > > Or maybe we can launch Fedora in Bali, Indonesia? It will be fun :) > > I propose we do the following now. > > (1) Stop further discussion of putting labels of active and inactive > on ambassadors. We are all Fedora ambassadors, let's leave it at that. > > (2) Work with FAmSCo to solve the actual problem that began this > discussion and create an effective way for our community to contact > ambassadors and for the non-Fedora community to contact us. This can > be done without creating any new bureaucracy that burdens Fedora > ambassadors. Several reasonable suggestions that accomplish this have > already been offered for consideration. > > Let's take a collective deep breath. > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > <a href="mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com" target="_blank">Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> > <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list</a> </div></div></div> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com">Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list</a> </blockquote></div> +1 But I think some kind of reporting should be done. I am telling this though I don't get enough time to update wiki , attend meetings myself but from the point of view of Fedora we should consider the scenario too. May be we are working silently and are active but how come other ambassadors will know that ? We should at least report our activities once a week, if not possible every fortnight in the wiki or to this mailing list or to other ambassador in our region. I am going to follow this from now on rather I should. Regards , Shambo Bose