<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html><head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <title>2009-03-05-famsco.log</title> <link rel="stylesheet" href="2009-03-05-famsco_fichiers/irclog.html"> <meta name="generator" content="irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas"> <meta name="version" content="2.7 - 2008-06-10"> </head><body> <h1>2009-03-05-famsco.log</h1> <table class="irclog"> <tbody><tr id="t18:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">10 minutes, then FAmSCo meeting</td><td class="time"><a href="#t18:49" class="time">18:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t18:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(217, 217, 114) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 114);">Hello Guys!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t18:58" class="time">18:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t18:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">hi RodrigoPadula</td><td class="time"><a href="#t18:58" class="time">18:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t18:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(217, 217, 114) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 114);">famsco meeting now ?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t18:58" class="time">18:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t18:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">hi</td><td class="time"><a href="#t18:59" class="time">18:59</a></td></tr> <tr id="t18:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">yes, one minute</td><td class="time"><a href="#t18:59" class="time">18:59</a></td></tr> <tr id="t18:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">hi</td><td class="time"><a href="#t18:59" class="time">18:59</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">Ok, who is here?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:00" class="time">19:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:00"><td class="action" colspan="2">* ke4qqq is</td><td><a href="#t19:00" class="time">19:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:00"><td class="action" colspan="2">* MrTom is</td><td><a href="#t19:00" class="time">19:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:00"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> kital(n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital)</td><td><a href="#t19:00" class="time">19:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">So, roll call please:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:02" class="time">19:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">Francesco Ugolini</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:02" class="time">19:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">Thomas Canniot</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:02" class="time">19:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">David Nalley</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:02" class="time">19:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:03"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> mbacovsk_(Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:03" class="time">19:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:03"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ldimaggi_(Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</td><td><a href="#t19:03" class="time">19:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">Max Spevack</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:03" class="time">19:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ke4qqq: sorry you had to miss the trip to CUE</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:03" class="time">19:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(217, 217, 114) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 114);">Rodrigo Padula</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:03" class="time">19:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><td class="other" colspan="2">... leave!#fedora-meeting -> mcepl()</td><td><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">JoergSimon</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">Great! Now, today agenda:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><td class="action" colspan="2">* RodrigoPadula low power :(</td><td><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">1. Ambassadors Policies Coordination</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">2. Current tasks review</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">3. Budget</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">spevack: me too!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">RodrigoPadula: I'll be brief</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">1. Ambassadors Policies Coordination</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">Let me start with this really important task.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">As you know one of our primarily task is making policies</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:05" class="time">19:05</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">what this mean? We should be able to understand What to do, how to do it and, then, make sure what we have decided will be applied in the best way possible.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">FAmSCo cannot monitor case per case (for material reasons) the correct application of the approved policies. This means it's necessary the involvment of local contacts in order to point each country in the right direct.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> pknirsch(Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> RodrigoPadula("Saindo")</td><td><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ldimaggi_(n=ldimaggi@c-76-19-171-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ldimagg__(n=ldimaggi@c-76-19-171-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ldimagg__(Client Quit)</td><td><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">In a schematic way this is what this means: <Ambassadors> FAmSCo -> Local Contacts -> Country coordinators </Ambassadors></td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:07"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> pknirsch(n=pknirsch@nat/redhat/x-34a8f067e09ebdcf)</td><td><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:07"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> spoleeba(n=one@fedora/Jef)</td><td><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:08"><td class="action" colspan="2">* fugolini is talking about policy application</td><td><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">just a clarification in terms -- I prefer to say FAMSCO -> Regional Leaders -> all other ambassadors</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">does that change the meaning of what you are trying to say?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">Regional/Country Leaders is most correct, I suppose3</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">EOF</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">no, it's correct. I just add country coordinators, because I see each country, or more of the existing one, have some people who are in contact with Regional leader</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:09"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> jsmidt(n=jsmidt@dhcp-v012-180.mobile.uci.edu)</td><td><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ok. sorry to interrupt!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:10" class="time">19:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: no problem, interrupt me when it's needed</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:10" class="time">19:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">From the current experience, I see that sometime there are missing chain passage (starting from FAmSCo), that leave country coordinators a not well defined guidelines.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">See, for example, the "CountryList transformation" discussion. It's clear that we need to give all the details needed to have a equivalent application of the policy around the world.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:12"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(n=ValHolla@ppp-70-225-39-213.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:12"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ChitleshGoorah(n=chitlesh@d54C48C73.access.telenet.be)</td><td><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:12"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">but, before this, we need to be in direct, constant contact with Regional Leader: after they will get in touch with the local community</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:13"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">(and, if not directly, through local coordinators)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:13" class="time">19:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:14"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:14"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: tell me if something seems not clear</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:14"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: it seems to me that what you are getting at is this:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:14"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(n=ValHolla@ppp-70-225-39-213.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:15"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">FAMSCO needs to take personal responsibility for ensuring that the conversation between regional leaders is happening often, and that we are doing everything we can to make sure that there is clear communication to them, because they are the ones who are then leading those regions/countries.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:15" class="time">19:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:15"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:15" class="time">19:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:15"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: for example, there is a NA regional meeting tonight.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:15" class="time">19:15</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: 100% right :), in few words you focus the concept</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> RodrigoPadula(n=Rodrigo@189.62.153.241)</td><td><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">for me, it is at 3 AM, so I cannot attend. But I know to talk with ke4qqq and herlo and inode0 after the meeting to make sure that we share information</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">EOF</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: great</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> rdieter_afk(n=rdieter@ip68-110-20-4.om.om.cox.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><td class="action" colspan="2">* RodrigoPadula come back</td><td><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">kital:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:16"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> che(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:17"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">fugolini what do you mean with "one of our primarily task is making policies"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:17" class="time">19:17</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:17"><td class="action" colspan="2">* RodrigoPadula at BR Sales Kick-off</td><td><a href="#t19:17" class="time">19:17</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:18"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">that one of our main task is giving a structure that could simplify but</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:18" class="time">19:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:18"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">coordinate ambassador project</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:18" class="time">19:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:18"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">*and</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:18" class="time">19:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:18"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">RodrigoPadula: they still won't write me back about the duplicator. i'm getting angry. you see my emails.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:18" class="time">19:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:18"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">It's not the only one. I'm not talking about Ambassadors Project task, I'm talking about FAmSCo</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:18" class="time">19:18</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">kital: have i clarified the point?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">maybe i get it later ;)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">thanks</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">eof</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:20"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> adamw("Ex-Chat")</td><td><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:20"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">kital: i think fugolini means that one of famsco's jobs is to deal with the "global policies" that all ambassadors follow, like event reports, etc.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:20"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">We are policy makers, we were elected to organize Ambassadors Project, and one of the main way is through policies</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:20"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: right</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:20"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(n=ValHolla@ppp-70-225-39-213.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">I want this point to be clear in order to move forward. Isn't it?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:21"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">it is clear</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:21"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(n=ValHolla@ppp-70-225-39-213.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">So, this is, concretely what I have in mind:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:22"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">1. When we take a decision/ approve a policy we need to set some deadlines.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:22" class="time">19:22</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:23"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">this is a must. We need to be able to give Regional Leader some guidelines to better address the changes (i'll talk briefly about this during the "country list" example)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:23" class="time">19:23</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:25"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ValHolla(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:25" class="time">19:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:25"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">2. Regional leader should work talking with the community and make sure it has understand: the aims, the consequences and the actions to do</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:25" class="time">19:25</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:26"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">3. FAmSCo should monitor policy application</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:26" class="time">19:26</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:26"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">ok - but what policy?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:26" class="time">19:26</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:26"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">this seems fine. What are the decisions that currently need to be made?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:26" class="time">19:26</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:26"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">kital: exactly :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:26" class="time">19:26</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:27"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">sure, here it is:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:27" class="time">19:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:27"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> John5342(n=john5342@fedora/John5342)</td><td><a href="#t19:27" class="time">19:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:27"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">You know we decided to work on the Country List transformation (forgive me if i used this word)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:27" class="time">19:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:27"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> thomasj_(n=thomasj@e180163112.adsl.alicedsl.de)</td><td><a href="#t19:27" class="time">19:27</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">We have missed the first point of this scheme. We had to give all the details needed to have a equivalent application of the policy around the world.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">*an</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> Gaaruto(n=Gaaruto@fedora/Gaaruto)</td><td><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: i'm a bit confused, i'm sorry.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">I understand the *general* point that you are making</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">and I agree with it.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">Re: [Ambassadors] Please REPLY to this mail (or you will be *removed* from the Ambassadors Country list.)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:28"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> viking_ice(Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</td><td><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ahhh</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">now i understand!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">We have broken the chain since the beginning and this was the result.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> lcafiero(n=larry@dsl-63-249-115-153.cruzio.com)</td><td><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">It was mine fault and this is why I thought to discuss with all the local contacts and FAmSCo members</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> giallu(n=giallu@fedora/giallu)</td><td><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> rdieter(Connection timed out)</td><td><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><td class="action" colspan="2">* MrTom still doesn't</td><td><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">kital:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">i know that what i say now is very unpopular but we can only change the quality of ambassadors if we establish a higher entry level</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);"> in nearly every other group you have to prove your willingness and ability to contribute</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> Southern_Gentlem(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">kital: the problem is not what it was asked, but how it was asked.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">hang on, everyone</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">we can not have both good quality and good quantity</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">we have two different topics coming together here</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"> </td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">the fist topic is what francesco is talking about in a *general case*.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassador_status_discussion">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassador_status_discussion</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">That is this: "FAMSCo believes that there is a better way to organize the Country List, and we would like to make that a task that we are going to pursue."</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">this is what i mean with quality</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">we have a closed list to reduce stupid answers</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:31"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> viking_ice(n=johannbg@valhalla.rhi.hi.is)</td><td><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">but</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">even after big STOP from me as the list admin the users did not stop</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">kital: now, I'm not talking about the content of the emails, just the way the policy application was handle locally.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini's point is that we decided we wanted to do something about the country list -- and that this decision is *related* to the active/inactive question -- but before we clearly had a plan of action, one region of the world started an email chain about removing people.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">the only thing what i will do next time is put them on moderation</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">eof</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">Francesco's point is that this email chain should never have been started, because that wasn't the plan that we had agreed upon.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">And francesco's further point -- and this is IMPORTANT -- is that the fault for this is not with susmit, but with FAMSCO collectively -- for not being more clear</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">that last point is the MOST IMPORTANT ONE that francesco is trying to make.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">EOF</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: am i right?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">100% right</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">MrTom: does that make more sense now?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">yep thanks</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: so the solution to this is that we must be more firm in our meetings and on famsco-list about saying "we have decided to do $FOO, and here are the steps and responsibilities"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">that's all.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">it's a learning lesson for everyone.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">EOF</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> Gaaruto("Bye++")</td><td><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: right</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> Gaaruto(n=Gaaruto@fedora/Gaaruto)</td><td><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">this what at the end the point</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">ke4qqq:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:35"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">so I am concerned that I don't want us to micromanage the regions or locales.... for instance my knowledge of the LATAM environment is next to nil, I know a handful of people there, but that's it, I'd feel awkward telling them how to do something</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:35" class="time">19:35</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:35"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ke4qqq: that's a good point.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:35" class="time">19:35</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">and more broadly trying to make every region the same</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">and in my opinion, there are two separate issues again.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> mdomsch(n=Matt_Dom@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com)</td><td><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">the day to day management of a region -- organizing events, getting swag to the right places, trusting people with budget -- this is left entirely to the regional leadership</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">though budget stuff does include me by necessity at times.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">and i don't think we should mess with that at all</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">we have built a model of local accountability that is good.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"> </td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">now</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">the slightly separate issue</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">is in this particulare case of a global initiative -- here something as simple as cleaning up the CountryList page</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> tk009(n=tk009@adsl-074-166-251-205.sip.bct.bellsouth.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">which really doesn't have anything to do with a particula region</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">was suddenly turned into a regional issue, when it didn't need to be, and led to a lot of distraction, confusion, etc.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"> </td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">so the lesson</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">IMHO</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">is to separate the regional management, which we have done well i think, from the administrative global stuff, which we are supposed to take care of without causing trouble for the regions.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">EOF</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ke4qqq: your thoughts, sir.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">that's a good delineation I think</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: does that make sense? is that what you're trying to say? do you agree?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:39"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">absolutely. You are better than me giving the right concept in few word</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:39" class="time">19:39</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:39"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">*s</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:39" class="time">19:39</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:40"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">I think we should take note of this, maybe creating a wiki page, in order to have a memory of this</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:40" class="time">19:40</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:40"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">and we have to apply it now with the current discussion</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:40" class="time">19:40</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:41"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">we have set as goal: clean CountryList and we have to achive this one, isn't it? :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:41" class="time">19:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:41"><td class="other" colspan="2">... leave!#fedora-meeting -> jsalisbury()</td><td><a href="#t19:41" class="time">19:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:41"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: and who is responsible for that goal?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:41" class="time">19:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:41"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> lfoppiano(n=lfoppian@fedora/lfoppiano)</td><td><a href="#t19:41" class="time">19:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:41"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> JSchmitt(n=s4504kr@p4FDD2185.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)</td><td><a href="#t19:41" class="time">19:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:41"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> fcami("gone")</td><td><a href="#t19:41" class="time">19:41</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:42"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">I could work on this task, naturally, if there are volunteers I don't want to</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:42" class="time">19:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:42"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:42" class="time">19:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:42"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">predominate</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:42" class="time">19:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:42"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">kital:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:42" class="time">19:42</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:43"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> thomasj(Connection timed out)</td><td><a href="#t19:43" class="time">19:43</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:43"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">the country list is planned as a list where regional leaders have their local contacts ?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:43" class="time">19:43</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:43"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:43" class="time">19:43</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">not the Country List we have already - and where the cleanup should happen</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">my opinion:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">this page</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">i hope by the end of the month toshio will establish the new FAS changes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">is relatively useless.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">why is it useless?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">because it requires a manual update, and while this was ok 2 years ago</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">now Ambassadors is too big, and growing too fast.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">just look at the list of people on there</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">who don't even have a wiki home page.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"> </td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">now</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> EvilBob(Read error: 113 (No route to host))</td><td><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">it should be replaced with TWO SEPARATE things</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">then we are able to use people_by_key to create the automated countrylist</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">and because it duplicates informations ... we shloud have the country list extracted from fas</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">(1) an automated country list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">coming from FAS</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">exactly right</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"> </td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:45"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> hanthana(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">(2) a simple page that shows the primary contacts for any given region</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:46"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#Fedora-Meeting -> EvilBob(n=EvilBob@fedora/bobjensen)</td><td><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">like thi sone</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">but for the whole world</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">EOF</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:47"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">ok thats a statement :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:47"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:47"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">so I like the idea of (2) but honestly don't see the purpose of (1) even if automated. Is there one?? If the intent is to have people contact regional leaders then at best it dilutes (2)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ke4qqq: (1) simply fills the need for people who care about a global directory of ambassadors, but yeah, i kind of agree with you. (2) is far more important than (1)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">and (1) actually takes work, where (2) is a little bit of work, but mostly organizational</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">spevack: who are those people?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">well, isn't the NA wiki page a local "country list" page ? I find it too big (or maybe NA is too big and the list very small)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ke4qqq: i don't know :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ke4qqq: but i'm not one of them</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> hanthana(n=hanthana@124.43.50.166)</td><td><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">MrTom: it is, and It should be condensed</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">MrTom: you refer to this page</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">spevack: neither am I</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);"><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">10 minutes left for the meeting</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">I think we should prefer to purge the countrylist page</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">I think for point 2, the collaboration of local leaders is needed</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">and create (2)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ke4qqq: +1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: and those local leaders are all here in famsco</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">in fact :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">and maybe 2 or 3 local contacts would be enough</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">so the automated country list is no longer needed?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">for each regions</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">kital: what do you think?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">kital: it has a place, but I don't think it should be public, personally.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><td class="other" colspan="2">... leave!#fedora-meeting -> rjune_("Leaving")</td><td><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">if we were to vote, here is how I would write it -- "Should we remove the CountryList, and replace it with a regional contact page for the entire world, based off of the work that the North American region has already done?"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">last week this was high prio :P</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">MrTom: I think local contacts should be whatever could be able to give a usefull answer to people</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">*whoever</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:51"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> bo09_("Leaving")</td><td><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:51"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> bo09("Leaving")</td><td><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:51"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> bo09(n=bo09@nat/redhat/x-9c8fd9315c5d0bfb)</td><td><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:52"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> MostafaDaneshvar(n=MostafaD@unaffiliated/mostafadaneshvar)</td><td><a href="#t19:52" class="time">19:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:52"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: I think we should make a vote, just to have a point to start</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:52" class="time">19:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:52"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">Should we remove the CountryList - not for me</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:52" class="time">19:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:52"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">would the local contact list be manually created ?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:52" class="time">19:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:52"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">MrTom: in my vision, it would be manually created by the leaders of each region.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:52" class="time">19:52</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">kital: may i ask why you feel we need the CountryList, either in its manual or automated form?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">that's the reason of a coordination</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">when i want to be a Ambassador and do not want to depend on a regional leader how can i be found</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">is it a must to be a team player?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">perhaps we'd have each region have a page and transclude it to a single page?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">kital: not you don't have to be a team player....but it does solve the problem that started this entire conversation</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:54"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">btw - i am a teamplayer ;)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:54" class="time">19:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:54"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">:)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:54" class="time">19:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:54"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">kital: we are a horizontal community, with someone with more responsability. I think we are all a team, but we working in local team. I think we should encourage team (group) work</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:54" class="time">19:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:54"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> fabian_a(n=fab@84-75-175-165.dclient.hispeed.ch)</td><td><a href="#t19:54" class="time">19:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:54"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">look</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:54" class="time">19:54</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">i think compromise is easily reached here.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">sort of what i said earlier.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">while I personally tend to agree with ke4qqq that the CountryList might not be needed, I do understand why some people might find it useful, for reasons like what kital says.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">so i would say that If and only If we can automate its generation, then it is still worth having as an "index of all ambassadors, generated fro FAS"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">kital: CountryList was one of the top 10 viewed pages on the wiki iirc.... I'd rather when people look at that they see people who we know will respond to them (assuming the people looking are outside the community) If we need such information - seems like we could build a script to query fas for famsco and the like.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> stickster_food(Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</td><td><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">but the regional contact/leadership page, built in coordination with the regional leaders, is far more important.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><td class="other" colspan="2">... nick!thomasj_ -> thomasj</td><td><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">ke4qqq: +1111</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">Let me ask this simple question:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> stickster_food(n=nnpfriel@ip72-205-14-2.dc.dc.cox.net)</td><td><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">ok how is the decission?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">Do we all agree that the equivalent of CountryList should *either* be automatically generated or *not exist at all*?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">That the manual process is broken?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">Can we get a +1/-1 to that?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">RodrigoPadula: ?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">i think rodrigo will agree ;)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(217, 217, 114) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 114);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">either way, that's a lot of +1s</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">so.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(217, 217, 114) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(217, 217, 114);">sorry, i'm slow because I'm in a meeting</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">so, now that we all agree on that.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">I think that we should indicate on the CountryList page that it is going away in its current form and is going to be automated if possible.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr> <tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">automated Countrylist will replace the verification page</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">great. The question that remains is simply "who is leading this effort?"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">ich</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">me</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">wonderful! thank you!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">now that this decision is made</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">the second decision is simple:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">We use the NA regional page as an example, and ask each region to produce something similar, and NA to "refresh" their page.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> rharrison(n=rusharri@nat/cisco/x-e6f601b7a18ade03)</td><td><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">then we combine it all together, and advertise the page like crazy. It should become the most viewed page in all of Fedora Ambassadors</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">That's why we need coordination, and I volunteer to help in this way</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:01"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> stickster_food(Killed by ballard.freenode.net (Nick collision))</td><td><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">ok my task is Countrylist will replace the verification page</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(93, 93, 177) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(93, 93, 177);">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> stickster_(n=nnnpfrie@ip72-205-14-2.dc.dc.cox.net)</td><td><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">delhage: go ahead</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(93, 93, 177) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(93, 93, 177);">is that 1 page or 1 page per region?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">sure, I think we have brake the rule</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> mdomsch("Leaving")</td><td><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">delhage: not sure yet, IMHO.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(93, 93, 177) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(93, 93, 177);">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">delhage: each region does a page and we transclude to a single, at least that's what I see.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">delhage: maybe one landing page that links to individual regional pages. One page would get really long.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(93, 93, 177) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(93, 93, 177);">makes sense</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">right</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">ok...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(220, 116, 220) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(220, 116, 220);">though countrylist is gigantic by those standards :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">so, that was a long hour, but I think in the end we all have managed to understand each other, make some decisions, and determine ownership of tasks, so I also consider it a valuable hour.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:05" class="time">20:05</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">ok, 1. we had kital for automated process</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:05" class="time">20:05</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(92, 175, 92) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(92, 175, 92);">yes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:05" class="time">20:05</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:05"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> stickster_(Connection reset by peer)</td><td><a href="#t20:05" class="time">20:05</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">1. Automatically generated country list -> kital</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:05" class="time">20:05</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: assign #2 to me</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> stickster_(n=nnnnpfri@ip72-205-14-2.dc.dc.cox.net)</td><td><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">ah ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: the regional pages</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">2. individual regional pages -> spevack</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack will also take care of the meeting log for tonight.</td><td><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><td class="other" colspan="2">... nick!stickster_ -> stickster</td><td><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">For the clarification of the wide process I'll write an email to Ambassadors, in order</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:06" class="time">20:06</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">to avoid other broken-chain effect</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:07" class="time">20:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: for double clarification, would you send your email to famsco-list first, so that we can see if there is anything in it that might cause more confusion? :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:07" class="time">20:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:07"><td class="other" colspan="2">... nick!stickster -> stickster_afk</td><td><a href="#t20:07" class="time">20:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:07"><td class="other" colspan="2">... nick!stickster_afk -> stickster</td><td><a href="#t20:07" class="time">20:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">spevack, shouldn't i do it as i already write the summary ?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:07" class="time">20:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">stickster: stop spamming our channel with your nick changes :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:07" class="time">20:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: no problem. I'll do this.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:07" class="time">20:07</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">MrTom: i was just going to run irc2html and send it to you :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:08" class="time">20:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">MrTom: but whatever, you can do it all :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:08" class="time">20:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(118, 224, 224) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(118, 224, 224);">if it's done, send it to me, i'll take care of it from next meeting</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:08" class="time">20:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">MrTom: ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:08" class="time">20:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">spevack: anything from budget side to say?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:08" class="time">20:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: nothing that can't wait until next week :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:08" class="time">20:08</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">perfect</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">so we can adjourn the meeting, if there isn't something special to add.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">3</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">2</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">thanks to all for your time tonight</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">== Meeting adjourned ==</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(112, 112, 213) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(112, 112, 213);">thank you spevack to have lead this discussion</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:09" class="time">20:09</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(93, 93, 177) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(93, 93, 177);">thanks for letting me crash the party at the end ;)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:10" class="time">20:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">fugolini: my pleasure. I think I am good at summarizing what everyone is trying to say in a way that everyone can understand</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:10" class="time">20:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(173, 91, 91) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(173, 91, 91);">delhage: i hope you encourage the others in #fedora-ambassadors to be equally bold :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:10" class="time">20:10</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(93, 93, 177) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(93, 93, 177);">:)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:11" class="time">20:11</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:13"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> sparli(n=sparli@nat/redhat-in/x-923b0e8e79d84eed)</td><td><a href="#t20:13" class="time">20:13</a></td></tr> <tr id="t20:14"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> sdziallas(n=sebastia@p57A2CFCD.dip.t-dialin.net)</td><td><a href="#t20:14" class="time">20:14</a></td></tr> </tbody></table> <div class="generatedby"> <p>Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by <a href="mailto:marius@pov.lt">Marius Gedminas</a> - find it at <a href="http://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/">mg.pov.lt</a>!</p> </div> </body></html>