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<h1>2009-03-26-famsco.log</h1>
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<tbody><tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">Ok, just to start, roll call:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">Francesco Ugolini</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:04"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> asgeirf_(n=asgeirf@203-217-44-219.dyn.iinet.net.au)</td><td><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">David Nalley</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">JoergSimon</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">Max Spevack</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:04" class="time">19:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">SusmitShannigrahi</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:05" class="time">19:05</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:05"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> G(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:05" class="time">19:05</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">So,
here is it the agenda. For this time I still used the same format of
the past. Starting from the next one I'll work on a better done one :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">1. Open issues</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">2. Tasks review</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">4. Budget</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">5. t.b.d.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:06"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">*3 and 4 naturally</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:06" class="time">19:06</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">1. Open issues: I know this issue is too generic. I'm talking about the David proposal</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">first of all my thanks to Max for his great summary</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">Well, as everyone has seen, I wrote up the summary that I promised last week and sent it to the list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">of the FAmSCo discussion.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">fugolini: no problem</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:07"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> tatica_(n=tatica@host-190-15-166-74.movilmax.com)</td><td><a href="#t19:07" class="time">19:07</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">in writing it up, i felt like it made a pretty clear case for what the decisions should be</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">spevack: take the voice, you</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">:)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">at this point, i don't have much to add. I guess my own views came across even though i tried to write</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> asgeirf(Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">a unbiased summary</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> tatica(Nick collision from services.)</td><td><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><td class="other" colspan="2">... nick!tatica_ -> tatica</td><td><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">but i think we need to more or less</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:08"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">start making some decisions, and implementing new policies.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:08" class="time">19:08</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">though some time for comments on the thread</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">and feedback</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);"> is worthwhile</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">that's all</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><td class="action" colspan="2">* fugolini thinks that
we can skip this formality if someone is directly involved in the
discussion. Use it for questions/clarification (?) or suggestions (!)</td><td><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">ke4qqq: go for it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:09"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:09" class="time">19:09</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">I
think there are some parts of this that are ready to be baked - such as
the inactive/active decision - seems like an easy vote to handle</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:10" class="time">19:10</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">others
such as raising the bar - sounds like we might be ready to start doing
the leg work of drafting a proposal for a future meeting</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:10" class="time">19:10</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">to actually vote on, though perhaps assigning those who would draft might be a discussion</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:10" class="time">19:10</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:10"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">FAmSCo vote naturally :) (we represent all the community)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:10" class="time">19:10</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">eof from me</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq: could be possible to formalize that proposal, in order to have a text to spread</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">! !</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">sorry</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:11"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:11" class="time">19:11</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:12"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">I know your email and the other ones are just clear enough, but I think we could take it as one, to help us</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:12"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">susmit:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:12"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">fugolini: I am unclear on what you are asking - but you want me to restate here?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:12"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">for the log?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:12"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:12"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">what happens to the existing but new (say 0-6 month old) ambassadors? Do we put the into the process again?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:12" class="time">19:12</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:13"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq: to make a formal voting request on FAmSCo list. Just that everyone could know perfectly what they are voting for</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:13" class="time">19:13</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:13"><td class="action" colspan="2">* susmit waiting for views</td><td><a href="#t19:13" class="time">19:13</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:13"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> fedora-angel(n=angel@116.193.168.179)</td><td><a href="#t19:13" class="time">19:13</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:13"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">susmit:
I'm sure we can use general principles, that says that new rules apply
to new cases if they don't give a benefit to the previous situation</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:13" class="time">19:13</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:13"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">*people that are just part of the project</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:13" class="time">19:13</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:14"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">*principle</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:14"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">fugolini: I did so for the inactive issue - and it was repeated verbatim in the email that spevack sent out</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:14"><td class="action" colspan="2">* ke4qqq is trying to find a link </td><td><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:14"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">I
think we need to draw a line under the current process, and once we
have a new process basically just say "starting on THIS DATE, we now
use THIS PROCESS"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:14" class="time">19:14</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:15"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">spevack: that's what I mean</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:15" class="time">19:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:15"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq: are you talking about the official proposal?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:15" class="time">19:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:15"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> G(n=njones@fedora/G)</td><td><a href="#t19:15" class="time">19:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:15"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">spevack, exactly what I was trying to say, we had many ambassadors from India in last six months :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:15" class="time">19:15</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq: ?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ok, inode0</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">what do we need to have a quorum?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">kital: I think we can use 50% +1 of FAmSCo members (so 4 people)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">fugolini: this was what I proposed on famsco</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:16"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);"><a href="http://fpaste.org/paste/7063">http://fpaste.org/paste/7063</a></td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:16" class="time">19:16</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:17"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">and what max pasted back</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:17" class="time">19:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:17"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq:
I see the proposal, I mean have an email with this is what I'm asking
to vote (really few lines), reply with +1 or -1 and give a reason</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:17" class="time">19:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:17"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">I'm
wondering if we (people not on FAmSCo) are being given a chance to give
feedback? It seems you have already decided and are in a hurry to vote
and be done with it?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:17" class="time">19:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:17"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">inode0: we are just doing this</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:17" class="time">19:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:17"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">we opened the discussion to ambassadors list to give a chance to give a relevant position on the discussion</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:17" class="time">19:17</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:18"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">inode0:
as far as i can tell, we're just talking. i already said
that we need to give time for the thread i put on the list today to be
discussed.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:18" class="time">19:18</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:18"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">inode0: do you have any feedback for us?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:18" class="time">19:18</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">yes, and I gave quite a bit in another channel today - to respond by mail will take longer</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">I think we need to put up a date for voting...after a couple of week?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">inode0: was it in #fedora-ambassadors? /me will make a point of going back and reading the channel logs</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">yes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:19"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">inode0: ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:19" class="time">19:19</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:20"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">thanks, if we have a couple of weeks to discuss, then you take some time to consider the input, I'm happy</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:20"><td class="action" colspan="2">* kital thinks it is time to do it now</td><td><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:20"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">my concern is analysis paralysis - we've been discussing for weeks</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:20" class="time">19:20</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:21"><td class="action" colspan="2">* inode0 thinks he is getting that feeling it is decided already again</td><td><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">+1 ke4qqq</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">sur</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">that is all I wanted to say now</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:21"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> CheekyBoinc(n=CheekyBo@port-92-196-94-178.dynamic.qsc.de)</td><td><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">inode0:
seriously, after all the time i took to bring that conversation out to
ambassadors-list, you're not willing to give any benefit of the doubt?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:21"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">inode0: no one is rushing towards anything</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:21" class="time">19:21</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:22"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">inode0 if i understand your position right - than we have to decide personally that someone is ready to be a Ambassador - right?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:22" class="time">19:22</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:22"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">I can't explain it in 5 minutes in a meeting, I'm sorry.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:22" class="time">19:22</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:23"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">ok there are two topics on this</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:23" class="time">19:23</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:23"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">at least two if not three</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:23" class="time">19:23</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:23"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">Accounts which remained inactive for a period of greater than 30 days after a password reset has to be purged!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:23" class="time">19:23</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:24"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">didn't we discussed about 3 months?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:24" class="time">19:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:24"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">*discuss</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:24" class="time">19:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:24"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">inode0:
i wrote that summary email particularly with you in mind, trying to
make it clear who was advocating for what, and with different rationales</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:24" class="time">19:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:24"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">this was my first suggestion 3 months after reset</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:24" class="time">19:24</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:25"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">30 days was the other suggestion by david</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:25" class="time">19:25</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:25"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> tkjacobsen_(n=tkjacobs@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk)</td><td><a href="#t19:25" class="time">19:25</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:25"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">so it is 6 month + 30days</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:25" class="time">19:25</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:25"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">spevack:
and I intended to thank you for sharing more details about internal
FAmSCo business with us. Whatever I said here I were not the result of
anything you have done.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:25" class="time">19:25</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:26"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">kital: what about the second topic?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:26" class="time">19:26</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:26"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">the
other task is - how we can have more quality - now we could share our
daily expiriences with new Ambassadors - we know the situation so we
can skip this</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:26" class="time">19:26</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:27"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">i have made proposals set a tightened filter</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:27" class="time">19:27</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">sure we read, and, after seeing the situation, I agree with the points moved :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">I feel like we need to give people time to read the thread from today and respond.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">and that famsco needs to make some decisions next week</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:28"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">on both issues?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:28"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack isn't sure</td><td><a href="#t19:28" class="time">19:28</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><td class="action" colspan="2">* kital is not happy</td><td><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">at lead the first one</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">*least</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">i just don't want to spend the next 30 mins re-writing stuff that I wrote this morning :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack sits back for a while and just listens</td><td><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">can we at least talk about if the filters i have suggested make sense</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:29"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">sure, we can</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:29" class="time">19:29</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">should i paste them here again?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:30"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack worries whenever someone like kital says he is not happy. let's let kital talk :)</td><td><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">before we get started - do we not have a motion on the table?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">I personally agreed, like clint suggested in his mail, we should bring some filters as principle</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:30"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">kital: sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:30" class="time">19:30</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> wwoods(Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">- has to be a Contributor to another Sub-Project inside Fedora where a sponsor</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">is needed</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">- is recommended by a Contributor to another Sub-Project inside Fedora who</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">will take mentorship for that person</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> nphilipp("Leaving")</td><td><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">- has contributed to Fedora on a event before</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">- has to provide measureable, visible contributions before! (this can be done</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">as soon as CLA is subscribed!)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">- has to spend money or whatever (if a company want to be Ambassador without</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">doing work)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq:
I think the 2 points moved by kital could be considered the motion:
they are clear and simple redirect to topic discussed in the list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:31"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">recommended
by a Contributor to another Sub-Project inside Fedora who will take
mentorship for that person and has to provide measureable, visible
contributions before!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:31" class="time">19:31</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">would be a good combination</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:32"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">kital: I
think those critieria are enought maybe we should bring them as
parameters, giving a spectrum of choice to people</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:32"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> tkjacobsen_(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:32"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> tkjacobsen_(n=tkjacobs@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk)</td><td><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:32"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> abadger1999(n=abadger1@12.185.22.226)</td><td><a href="#t19:32" class="time">19:32</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:33"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> mharris(n=mharris@fedora/mharris)</td><td><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:33"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">kital: +1 for the last one, you were, like anytime, right having people that know the project</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:33" class="time">19:33</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:34"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> chitlesh_(n=chitlesh@56.1-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)</td><td><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">we aren't like the beginning a small, not propely defined, project. After some years we have created a deep identity</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">to
match inode0's suggestion, regional mentors or qualified Ambassadors
should turned into sponsors and decide by personal assessment <- i
am not sure about that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:34"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> thomasj(n=thomasj@e180164076.adsl.alicedsl.de)</td><td><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:34"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">I think the guidelines you pasted above could be used as a parameter to judge</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:34" class="time">19:34</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:35"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">spevack: not happy to have no decission - but i see that we have to refine this</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:35" class="time">19:35</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:35"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">kital: some of your points i agree with, and some of them i think are maybe a little bit too "harsh"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:35" class="time">19:35</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:35"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">sure they are just a proposal</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:35" class="time">19:35</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:35"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">kital: but generally, I think that we are on the right track.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:35" class="time">19:35</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:35"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">kital: I'm
sorry I've not pushed for a fast decision, I preferred to wait till the
situation was restored to a calm one</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:35" class="time">19:35</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">and I don't see anyone either in famsco or otherwise screaming that we're talking completely crazy.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">am i wrong?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:36"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">I am not sure if we can measure this by this "has contributed to Fedora on a event before"</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:36" class="time">19:36</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> mbacovsk_(Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(75, 144, 75) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(75, 144, 75);">especially not for a new region?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">new region?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> tkjacobsen(Connection timed out)</td><td><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><td class="action" colspan="2">* ke4qqq hasn't seen that this has been aynthing but a calm discussion</td><td><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">My proposal is to keep them as parameters, that could be</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">delhage - as soon as one has signed the CLA he can contribute to Fedora</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:37"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">I know someone who volunteers at events but turned out to be not so good an ambassador</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:37" class="time">19:37</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq: I'm talking about what happened in the list</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq: see the "Reply to this mail" thread</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(75, 144, 75) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> delhage</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(75, 144, 75);">I mean ambassaors in a region where there haven't been any before</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:38"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">delhage: ah</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:38" class="time">19:38</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:39"><td class="action" colspan="2">* fugolini thinks he is completely understandable :/</td><td><a href="#t19:39" class="time">19:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:39"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">ahhh ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:39" class="time">19:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:39"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">sure
- but even in a new region fedora should be presented in the right way
- and i am sure as i know you - you had find a way into Ambassadors
through that filter</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:39" class="time">19:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:39"><td class="action" colspan="2">* delhage thinks he might have misunderstood</td><td><a href="#t19:39" class="time">19:39</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:40"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">Just
to repeat myself: instead of creating some strict criteria we should
give some "parameters" and a range they could used, like "take part to
an event --in real case--> if in XXX there wasn't event just check
for the other ones</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:40" class="time">19:40</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:41"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">So, just to summary what we discuss since now:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:41" class="time">19:41</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:42"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">1) For next week meeting, after we have read feedbacks from the list, we have to take a decision on the 2 proposals Joerg moved</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:42" class="time">19:42</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:43"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">2) For the criteria, it seems people agreed having them. Discuss on how we should use them.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:43" class="time">19:43</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:43"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">isn't right?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:43" class="time">19:43</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:43"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">...</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:43" class="time">19:43</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:43"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">to 1) - purging inactive Accounts can be decided today?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:43" class="time">19:43</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">for the rest +1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">sure we can</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:44"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> che__(Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">do we have a definitive answer from Fedora Infrastructure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:44"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">on whether or not they are implementing a global policy to deal with inactive FAS accounts?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:44" class="time">19:44</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">because if they are doing that, then their decision "outranks" ours, doesn't it?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:45"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">spevack:
they have said they have no definitive plans yet, but do plan at some
yet undefined point in the future to strip people of all groups if they
have been inactive for a certain length of time</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:45" class="time">19:45</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">well, ok.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">then... doesn't that settle it?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">specifically</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">mmcgrath said: If you guys want to wait on our lead, it'll probably be something closer</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">to 6 months for now and we'll basically take the user out of all groups</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">and change their email address to something like:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">we'll let the global FAS active/inactive policy apply for Ambassadors?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:46"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">We've got plans for all of this but none of them are</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:46" class="time">19:46</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:47"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">totally set in stone yet.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:47"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ChitleshGoorah(Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:47"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">Then I guess my question to FAMSCo would be:</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:47"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> cassmodiah(Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</td><td><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:47"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> ldimagg__(n=ldimaggi@nat/redhat/x-b1f1fb6a8e7494b7)</td><td><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:47"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">shouldn't
we just allow the global policy for fedora accounts that Fedora
Infrastructure is creating be the policy that we follow?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:47"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:47" class="time">19:47</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">i
don't think they'd appreciate (or want) every sub-project coming up
with its own policy. that would be broken for sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">(for the reasons expressed in the list, even if the question was difference)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">since one account is a member of (potentially) many projects</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">they actually encouraged that</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">yeah, i'd assume so.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> tkjacobsen__(n=tkjacobs@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk)</td><td><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">so.... what are we arguing about? :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">spevack: yeah, it couldn't be a productive way to handle things</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">we had to pirge the "Ambassadors from ..." also</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">no</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">s/pirge/purge</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">I mean they encouraged us to do it on our own</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:48"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ke4qqq: why?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:48" class="time">19:48</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ah</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">rather than letting them hold the hot potato</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">:)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ghggh</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">I don't know if that's the reason</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:49"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">but mike said that he 'hate[s] makeing global changes like this'</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:49" class="time">19:49</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> thomasj_(Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">what we want to clean up is not the Account itself only Group membership to Ambassadors - right?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">yes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">yes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">so
my concern is that I don't want to come across as shirking our
responsibilibity - and dodging it because eventually someone else may
handle it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">I know it's a hot potato</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">the global clean-up that infrastructure is planning is the account - right?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">the hottest one :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:50"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">kital: yes, of course!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:50" class="time">19:50</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack hits himself in the face</td><td><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">there is a difference between the ACCOUNT and the AMBASSADORS GROUP MEMBERSHIP</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack is an idiot</td><td><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack removes himself from al groups :P</td><td><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">lol</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">hihi</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">:)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:51"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">lol</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:51" class="time">19:51</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:52"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">so it is not so hot :) for us</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:52" class="time">19:52</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:52"><td class="other" colspan="2">... leave!#fedora-meeting -> Khaytsus()</td><td><a href="#t19:52" class="time">19:52</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:53"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> wwoods(n=wwoods@nat/redhat/x-8578a2521d6fd794)</td><td><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">So, at the end, should we make the purge on our own?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:53"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">My natural answer seems to be yes</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:53" class="time">19:53</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:54"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack wants to know what inode0 thinks is right</td><td><a href="#t19:54" class="time">19:54</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:55"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> mcepl(n=mcepl@49-117-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz)</td><td><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:55"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> fcrippa("Leaving")</td><td><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">fugolini, I think we should.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">inode0: ping</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">fugolini: i believe i agree with you, though</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:55"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:55" class="time">19:55</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(140, 74, 74) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> inode0</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(140, 74, 74);">sorry, I need to read a little back</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:56"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> tkjacobsen_(Connection timed out)</td><td><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:56"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">5/7, it's passed so</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:56"><td class="other" colspan="2">... join!#fedora-meeting -> MrTom(n=MrTom@fedora/MrTom)</td><td><a href="#t19:56" class="time">19:56</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:57"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> drago01(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">nothing that needs a POV but just something concrete :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(77, 77, 147) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(77, 77, 147);">hi 'im sorry i just came home :( I was busy with Solution Linux stand materials</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:57"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">Anything to say. I think our time is coming to an end. I'm sure those 3 points today were cleared enough</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:57" class="time">19:57</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">MrTom: that's a huge event, and very important for your time!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">MrTom: don't worry</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(77, 77, 147) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(77, 77, 147);">I have a Fedora banner horizontal</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:58"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(77, 77, 147) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> MrTom</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(77, 77, 147);">antoher one vertical</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:58" class="time">19:58</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">So, is ok if we adjourn meeting to next week (NA FAmSCo Regional Meeting)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">fugolini:
i'm glad next week is NA, because I'm worried that we're 1/3 through
this quarter, and we've barely spent any money yet!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">do we have a decission?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack needs herlo, inode0, and ke4qqq to start spending money :P</td><td><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">OO</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">loooooooooool</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t19:59"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">sure they have!!!</td><td class="time"><a href="#t19:59" class="time">19:59</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">I'll collects topic from the Ambassador List thread about it</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">purging inactive accounts</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">I invite all NA Ambassadors to suggests topic to discuss. Naturally 1) Budget :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">fugolini: did we make a decision?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">kital: sure</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">(07:56:28 PM) fugolini: 5/7, it's passed so</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ldimaggi_(Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td><td><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:00"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">kital, 5/7</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:00" class="time">20:00</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">:)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">so can we summarize here exactly what we decided</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">so that it is also clear what we did NOT decide</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">and to hopefully prevent confusion later</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:01"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">though /me assumes that confusion will always exist</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:01"><td class="action" colspan="2">* spevack is grupmy, apparently</td><td><a href="#t20:01" class="time">20:01</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:02"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> ldimagg__("Leaving")</td><td><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:02"><td class="other" colspan="2">... signoff!#fedora-meeting -> abadger1999(Remote closed the connection)</td><td><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">1) We decided to purge inactive Accounts from Ambassadors FAS Group after</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">spevack: wish for me to write that summary?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">ke4qqq: that would be wonderful</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:02"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(66, 66, 126) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> ke4qqq</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(66, 66, 126);">ok</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:02" class="time">20:02</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">+1 too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">During the meeting we have made some summaries (I'm sorry for the language, I hope to improve soon :))</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">I hope they could useful.</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:03"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">BTW, can we adjourn the meeting?</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:03" class="time">20:03</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">+1</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(133, 70, 133) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> spevack</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(133, 70, 133);">fugolini: thank you for leading a difficult meeting</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">thanks fugolini</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">good night :)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">I'm sorry if the language barrier make my lead not so useful</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(129, 129, 68) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> kital</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(129, 129, 68);">cu</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:04"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">or have a nice day ;)</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:04" class="time">20:04</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(64, 122, 64) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> fugolini</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(64, 122, 64);">ehehe, cu too</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:05" class="time">20:05</a></td></tr>
<tr id="t20:05"><th class="nick" style="background: rgb(72, 136, 136) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> susmit</th><td class="text" style="color: rgb(72, 136, 136);">bye</td><td class="time"><a href="#t20:05" class="time">20:05</a></td></tr>
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