Clint sums it up very eloquently -- I can't add anything to that. On the "triage" aspect, I could have done better on that -- that was my role -- but I was juggling a couple of things at once and couldn't give any of the things I was doing the attention they individually deserved. I'm trying to get to a point where I can write a final blog item about LFNW -- a lot of this thing called "life" is getting in the way -- where I'll address several issues. I'll be contributing to the FAD how-to wiki page. Larry Cafiero <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Clint Savage <<a href="mailto:herlo1@gmail.com">herlo1@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im"> </div>I probably should have blogged more about the FAD. I think it went pretty swell. Larry is quite the Advocate and presenter, probably comes from dealing with classrooms full of students on a regular basis. As far as the success of this FAD, I would say that it didn't match up to what I wanted to do. However, I feel there were a lot of people in the room who wanted to learn more about Fedora. I did feel like we were being utilized more to ask questions than actually get a task done. More to this point, I think the fact that we had such a big Fedora presence this year was an exciting thing for folks in the Northwest. My opinion is that if we come back next year, we'll get a similar response and a few of the folks who attended our FAD this year will help us to organize and get goals done. I will say that there needs to be a couple things at every FAD. Even though we've only done 2, I can see similarities between SCALE and LFNW. First is that we need a representative (or two) to sit at the entrance and answer questions. Something like 'Ask a Fedoran' at a small table right near the door. This is much like triage. If people come to work on an activity that we've advertised, they'll get them inside and working with someone who's in charge of that particular activity. This is the key and part of what keeps us focused. Secondly, I think we need to have a design of what we're there to accomplish. At SCaLE, we had a much better idea of what was to be accomplished. We went to task on it and were able to complete a few things. This was good and with the triage person, we really could've gotten more done. Thus a learning experience. At LFNW, it felt more like we were scattered, didn't really have any idea of what we were going to work on until we showed up and because of that, we didn't really accomplish much at all other than helping folks with their fedora problems. In both cases (SCaLE and LFNW) I have found that we were well received and that people were excited to see our presence. We've made a great impact on these communities. However, with the two improvements I've mentioned, I feel we could really help these communities *and* get a few things done. I don't think there is a way to avoid talking with the public at a FAD, we should be welcoming them. The key here is management of people and getting them where they want to be quickly and efficiently. Thus, I am suggesting that any FAD held alongside a larger event *must* have defined people and goals. I hope this feedback helps overall. Karsten and I have talked at length about much of this and we've continually been working on the 'How to organize a FAD'[1] page on the wiki. I think that's the best place to continue to focus our efforts and improve the FAD experience. Cheers, Clint 1 - <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD</a> <div><div></div><div class="h5"> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com">Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>