<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:54 PM, inode0 <<a href="mailto:inode0@gmail.com">inode0@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Kamin Horvath <<a href="mailto:mohaas05@gmail.com">mohaas05@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > I started off with Fedora at first due to its heritage (before I used Red > Hat Linux), but now I see that Ubuntu often tries too hard to appeal to the > masses. </div>How does Ubuntu try too hard to appeal to the masses? Spreading free software to the "masses" seems to be a core goal of Ubuntu and, given that, they should try as hard as they can to do it. <div class="im"> > Fedora really conveys the true spirit of Linux and open source > software. </div>While I can heartily endorse the spirit of Fedora, I think the implication that Ubuntu doesn't share the "true spirit" is a bit unfair. When it comes to the Fedora foundations of Freedom and Friends I see the same at the heart of the Ubuntu community. Ubuntu is largely derived from another distribution, this makes it quite different from Fedora and it makes many of the usual comparisons problematic. I often hear about the large contribution that the Fedora community makes upstream. That is something to be very proud of indeed. Expecting a distribution largely derived from another to match Fedora in this regard I don't think is realistic or fair. The Features and First foundations flow from this relationship between Fedora and the upstream communities. <div class="im"> > It doesn't include features to please it's fanbase or to make it > like certain products (specifically those originating from Redmond, > Washington), it does so because it fits the mission of the project. </div>Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean by the reference to Redmond there. Fedora includes features its users want and features that its developers feel will drive the computing of tomorrow. And these features sometimes directly relate to the products coming out of Redmond. I'm quite in agreement with Larry on this general topic. I would encourage ambassadors to be eager to explain to anyone about the great qualities of the Fedora community and highlight its accomplishments. Say what is good about Fedora every chance you get to all who will listen. But I would also discourage ambassadors from trying to characterize what we might perceive to be the shortcomings of any other community. I don't feel it is our place to do that and I don't think it presents us in the best light. Of course every ambassador gets to make this decision, but try to say "Fedora is great because ..." without the "and distro X is not great because ..." John "getting down from his soapbox" <div><div></div><div class="h5"> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com">Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> I completely agree. My previous comment, I only gave out to some people. My standard response is that every Linux distro is a different flavor of Icecream. There is no one flavor that everyone likes (I like with Choco-Mint). So, yeah, highlight our features, not the features other distros lack. -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: <a href="http://proyectofedora.org/mexico">http://proyectofedora.org/mexico</a>