From bradley.king at mchsi.com Sun May 1 01:13:41 2005 From: bradley.king at mchsi.com (bradley.king at mchsi.com) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 01:13:41 +0000 Subject: how to install Message-ID: <050120050113.7789.42742D450001562C00001E6D219792676109020705D2970A040B0E9D0D@mchsi.com> please can someone tell me how to instell zip. bin. tar. files on fedora core 1 thank u verry much! From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Sun May 1 10:08:05 2005 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:08:05 +0300 Subject: OpenOffice icons In-Reply-To: <4273ADD8.20707@wowway.com> References: <1114858817.3343.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4273ADD8.20707@wowway.com> Message-ID: <4274AA85.8010301@nicubunu.ro> Craig wrote: > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > | Is it just me, or does the openoffice icon artwork look really terrible > | and difficult-to-understand? I opened a bugzilla for it: > | > | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156424 > | > | If those agreeing/disagreeing could post comments there, it would be > | great. > | > IMHO it is without question *just you*. Personally, they're among the > very few > icons that are bright, colorful and _easy_ to identify. Craig, you are sure we are talking about the same icons? The ones from devel (OOo 1.9.x) not the ones from FC3 (Bluecurve) From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun May 1 11:09:56 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:09:56 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice icons In-Reply-To: <4274AA85.8010301@nicubunu.ro> References: <1114858817.3343.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4273ADD8.20707@wowway.com> <4274AA85.8010301@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1114945796.3344.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 01.05.2005 kl. 12.08 skrev Nicu Buculei: > Craig wrote: > > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > | Is it just me, or does the openoffice icon artwork look really terrible > > | and difficult-to-understand? I opened a bugzilla for it: > > | > > | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156424 > > | > > | If those agreeing/disagreeing could post comments there, it would be > > | great. > > | > > > IMHO it is without question *just you*. Personally, they're among the > > very few > > icons that are bright, colorful and _easy_ to identify. > > Craig, you are sure we are talking about the same icons? The ones from > devel (OOo 1.9.x) not the ones from FC3 (Bluecurve) Which aparently come from Sun. I agree that the *old* OO 1.x icons where nice and really really easy to identify (and it looks like the "filetype" icons are still the same as the old ones - hooray!) - and i want'em back. Only need to create a icon for "OO database"... (the database icon is the only recognizable one - but it has to go for a icon that is similar to the others.) From wralphie at comcast.net Sun May 1 15:47:02 2005 From: wralphie at comcast.net (jludwig) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:47:02 -0400 Subject: how to install In-Reply-To: <050120050113.7789.42742D450001562C00001E6D219792676109020705D2970A040B0E9D0D@mchsi.com> References: <050120050113.7789.42742D450001562C00001E6D219792676109020705D2970A040B0E9D0D@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <200505011147.02440.wralphie@comcast.net> On Saturday 30 April 2005 09:13 pm, bradley.king at mchsi.com wrote: > please can someone tell me how to instell zip. bin. tar. files on fedora > core 1 thank u verry much! This would be done as root. -->Sorry if I am being very blunt, but, if you do not know how to extract and install these files you are much better off not even trying. This can be a very dangerous undertaking and destroy your system. <--- But if still you want to then. 1) Open a terminal 2) Become root (su -) 3) Untar and/or extract the files. tar -xvzf file name or tar -xvjf filename or tar -xvf depending on the file. (For .bin chmod -rx filename then ./filename. 4) Install per the directions in INSTALL or README. -- John H Ludwig Common sense is so rare, why do they call it common!!! From jeffy5 at optonline.net Sun May 1 17:30:32 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 13:30:32 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice icons In-Reply-To: <4274AA85.8010301@nicubunu.ro> References: <1114858817.3343.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4273ADD8.20707@wowway.com> <4274AA85.8010301@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1114968632.4245.2.camel@jeffy5.jeffsdomain.net> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 13:08 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Craig wrote: > > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > | Is it just me, or does the openoffice icon artwork look really terrible > > | and difficult-to-understand? I opened a bugzilla for it: > > | > > | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156424 > > | > > | If those agreeing/disagreeing could post comments there, it would be > > | great. > > | > > > IMHO it is without question *just you*. Personally, they're among the > > very few > > icons that are bright, colorful and _easy_ to identify. > > Craig, you are sure we are talking about the same icons? The ones from > devel (OOo 1.9.x) not the ones from FC3 (Bluecurve) > Hello, Speaking of icons, can the icons on the toolbar in Gnome be converted to the BlueCurve theme, including the foot next to the applications button into the traditional red Fedora? Jeff From cs007fc at wowway.com Mon May 2 05:07:10 2005 From: cs007fc at wowway.com (Craig) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:07:10 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice icons In-Reply-To: <1114945796.3344.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114858817.3343.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4273ADD8.20707@wowway.com> <4274AA85.8010301@nicubunu.ro> <1114945796.3344.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4275B57E.6060406@wowway.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: | s?n, 01.05.2005 kl. 12.08 skrev Nicu Buculei: |> |>Craig, you are sure we are talking about the same icons? The ones from |>devel (OOo 1.9.x) not the ones from FC3 (Bluecurve) Yes, I'm talking about OOo 1.9x icons. The bluecurve icons are good and an excellent choice for business. However, regardless of your opinion, I prefer Sun's icons. Frankly, they will be far more familiar and friendlier to newbies and desktop users transferring from one a windows environment especially if the company properly transitions to the necessary open source apps prior to any linux desktop migration. | | Which aparently come from Sun. | | I agree that the *old* OO 1.x icons where nice and really really easy to | identify (and it looks like the "filetype" icons are still the same as | the old ones - hooray!) - and i want'em back. Only need to create a icon | for "OO database"... (the database icon is the only recognizable one - | but it has to go for a icon that is similar to the others.) | That's your opinion and if you want one, you probably won't have to wait long. Bluecurve is one of the only themes to include their own personal icons for OOo apps and I'm sure the database app will be added for RHEL 4 if for no other purpose. Moreover, the lack of "red hat" logos and icons is the purposeful and the final (visual) step in accomplishing the mission of fedora to be as close to upstream as possible. Therefore, the default GNOME theme is being used as default. If you want the the Bluecurve theme, just choose it from the theme app located in the preferences menu or download it from the gnome site, your choice. Don't expect them to go back now that they've finally transitioned away from corporate logos, icons, etc. Craig -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCdbV96XcoldzZ4rgRAo5oAJ4gX6mqnWphBkz7cZPRai0zfobyCwCfbTO4 AIWB/81il43VBA34/JgZjjM= =T17h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After providing username & password credentials , a user can go inside that machine and he can access the shares which are in that machine . If you try to access same machine second time , you won't get username-password dialog box . Konqeror has capabilities to cache the password , but this is not permenent for windows networks . Kwallet also doesn't helping me to solve this issue. I joined Linux to their domain , but still the problem exists . Please any body can tell me how we can solve the problem . Is kwallet solve this kind problems or is there is any way to solve this problem . Actually , this is the common requirement for all customers who are migrating from Windows to Linux . Thanks & Regards, Shashi kanth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But , when i am trying access to one machine , > username-password dialog box appears . After providing username & > password credentials , a user can go inside that machine and he can > access the shares which are in that machine . If you try to access > same machine second time , you won't get username-password dialog box > . Konqeror has capabilities to cache the password , but this is not > permenent for windows networks . Kwallet also doesn't helping me to > solve this issue. > > > I joined Linux to their domain , but still the problem exists . Please > any body can tell me how we can solve the problem . Is kwallet solve > this kind problems or is there is any way to solve this problem . > Actually , this is the common requirement for all customers who are > migrating from Windows to Linux . > > > Thanks & Regards, > Shashi kanth Your bug is a feature. Cached passwords that affect a login permanently and allow access across an entire domain are very insecure. 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Chris From markmc at redhat.com Mon May 9 06:13:40 2005 From: markmc at redhat.com (Mark McLoughlin) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 07:13:40 +0100 Subject: Editing the Gnome Menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1115619220.3690.10.camel@blaa> On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 00:49 -0400, Chris Spencer wrote: > What's the easiest way to edit one's local and global menu items in > Gnome? It appears the default Gnome distributed with FC3 doesn't have > any of the direct menu-editing functionality compiled in. I've been able > to modify my menu somewhat as root, by editing the files in > /usr/share/applications, but this is horribly obscure and unintuitive. > Is there a better way? It depends what exactly you want to do. If you want to delete items from the menu or add new items, then its /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu you want to edit. GNOME 2.12 will include a menu editor. Cheers, Mark. From bradley.king at mchsi.com Mon May 9 16:11:47 2005 From: bradley.king at mchsi.com (bradley king) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:11:47 -0500 Subject: fedora Message-ID: <001301c554b1$cd741a90$2102a8c0@your1a4d29f243> Hi im loking 4 some help with sound in kde its weride couse i have sound with gnome i am a new user but not stupid .Please help.THANKS! From brownbay at brownbays.net Mon May 9 18:14:32 2005 From: brownbay at brownbays.net (Todd McCoy) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 14:14:32 -0400 Subject: fedora In-Reply-To: <001301c554b1$cd741a90$2102a8c0@your1a4d29f243> References: <001301c554b1$cd741a90$2102a8c0@your1a4d29f243> Message-ID: <427FA888.2070000@brownbays.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 open up kmix and check your levels... the first time I tried KDE after installing with Gnome default I dind't have sound either. I was able to fix it with the mixer. The specific changes will depend on what hardware you have, so just try a few things until you get it working is my best advice. Todd bradley king wrote: > Hi im loking 4 some help with sound in kde its weride couse i have > sound with gnome i am a new user but not stupid .Please > help.THANKS! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCf6iIsQ5G4B6UVcwRAqfmAJ9tgXMBEobwL6Gp5EKmKRphas8H/QCgkcXy BCdRGJEfFScdx+UgCENdTTM= =5uJJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ram.einstein at gmail.com Fri May 27 18:42:55 2005 From: ram.einstein at gmail.com (R.Ramkumar) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 00:12:55 +0530 Subject: Devices on GNOME desktop Message-ID: <42976A2F.7080402@gmail.com> The currently expected behavior of the GNOME 2.8 desktop on Fedora Core 3 is to pop-up a device when it is plugged in (eg. USB stick). But when the user right-clicks and manually selects unmount, plugs out the device and plugs it back in, it does not pop-up again. Instead, if the user plugs out the device without an unmount notification to the desktop, the desktop icon prevails and when clicked, generates an error. What is the reason for this? ... and if there is a valid reason, how does the user handle this situation more elegantly? After all, the user might want to plug in the same device twice in a session. -- ram_einstein FC3 ram_einstein.blogspot.com From kyrre at solution-forge.net Fri May 27 21:15:15 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:15:15 +0200 Subject: Devices on GNOME desktop In-Reply-To: <42976A2F.7080402@gmail.com> References: <42976A2F.7080402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1117228515.3430.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> fre, 27.05.2005 kl. 20.42 skrev R.Ramkumar: > The currently expected behavior of the GNOME 2.8 desktop on Fedora Core > 3 is to pop-up a device when it is plugged in (eg. USB stick). But when > the user right-clicks and manually selects unmount, plugs out the device > and plugs it back in, it does not pop-up again. Instead, if the user > plugs out the device without an unmount notification to the desktop, the > desktop icon prevails and when clicked, generates an error. > > What is the reason for this? ... and if there is a valid reason, how > does the user handle this situation more elegantly? After all, the user > might want to plug in the same device twice in a session. > > -- > ram_einstein > FC3 > > ram_einstein.blogspot.com And then there is the "device may popup anywhere at random - including beneath icons". And, on a crowded desktop as mine, it may be impossible to find. Would be kind of cool if it did "glow" as windows do in FC4 when they wants to popup. :P Kyrre From johnp at redhat.com Sun May 29 08:02:39 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 04:02:39 -0400 Subject: Devices on GNOME desktop In-Reply-To: <42976A2F.7080402@gmail.com> References: <42976A2F.7080402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1117353759.4583.11.camel@dhcp83-76.boston.redhat.com> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 00:12 +0530, R.Ramkumar wrote: > The currently expected behavior of the GNOME 2.8 desktop on Fedora Core > 3 is to pop-up a device when it is plugged in (eg. USB stick). But when > the user right-clicks and manually selects unmount, plugs out the device > and plugs it back in, it does not pop-up again. Instead, if the user > plugs out the device without an unmount notification to the desktop, the > desktop icon prevails and when clicked, generates an error. > > What is the reason for this? ... and if there is a valid reason, how > does the user handle this situation more elegantly? After all, the user > might want to plug in the same device twice in a session. > Most likely you have one of the few devices that cause the usb-storage module to hang on a syscall to the kernel when polling the device. This in turn causes HAL to hang. This is "fixed" in the latest HAL on FC4 in which HAL forks for each device it polls so if there is a hang it hangs the forked copy and not all of HAL. Of course this is wasteful of resources and the only real fix would be to fix the usb-storage module or get the newer ub module running better. -- J5