<div class="gmail_quote">2008/3/26 Jesse Keating <<a href="mailto:jkeating@redhat.com">jkeating@redhat.com</a>>: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> "root" is a legacy concept. Either the local user is also the admin, or the admin is a site wide admin where local root accounts are just jokes and instead things are done as sudo, or through config management systems. </blockquote></div> I'm still dropping to root on systems that I'm not sitting in front of when I need to troubleshoot hardware. We'd have to make sure that all the devices which get dynamically created get the correct permissions such that an admin group such as 'wheel' can make use of them by default. -jef