<html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } </style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> Hi If the target audience of live cd is "experienced" Linux user, doesn't have to be fedora user, than give up gimp easily. Such people usually configure their "perfect system" by themselves. If the target is newbe, migrated from windows, looking for something new, or only person who has heard something about Linux and wants to try then we have to place as many "cool" features as possible, gimp is good image editor. What about amsn, kopete or other client capable to talk to windows messanger? People on MS system use this for communication. Tom > From: ghenriks@gmail.com > To: fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:12:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: Dropping Gimp from the live cd > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:53:00 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > > > > > >On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > >>>> applications on them. > >>> > >>> But we didn't remove the useful application: firefox is still in :-) > >> > >> So i take the target audience of this spin is people using applications in > >> the "cloud" (web services)? > >> > > > >How about anyone who uses the internet? > >firefox and a terminal w/ssh gives me access to: > > > >1. my email > >2. all the news in the world > >3. a system for developing on > >4. the necessary tools for adding new things to my system > >5. all the documentation I could ever want > > > >that sounds pretty encompassing to me. > > But are you, or for that matter anyone else on these lists who already > use Fedora, the target of the live cd? > > If, as mentioned in the original question regarding target audience, > the point of the live cd is something to hand out to people new to > Fedora to show them what Fedora/Linux offers then removing things like > Gimp may be the wrong thing to do. > > The Fedora download page says this about the live cd: > > "This is the latest version of the Fedora Linux operating system > featuring the GNOME desktop. It's everything you need to try out > Fedora—and if you like it, install it right from the desktop!" > > This to me means things like Gimp should stay on the live cd, because > it is one of the features of Fedora/Linux that people may want to try > out. > > If space is really that bad then perhaps it is time to go to a DVD, > but rather than use the full DVD create an artificial size limit to > minimize download time. > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list <hr />Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/' target='_new'>Get Them Now</a></body> </html>