<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi all,<br>In my view it doesn't matter what exactly is on the live CD - a kernel with a Desktop GUI and Internet browser and connection are more than enough. The most important think is how the user is going to proceed after installing Linux.<br><br>After installing the live CD on the harddisk the user shall get knowing somehow that the first thing to do next is neither AbyWord nor GIMP, nor Movie Player but rather to place properly ALL of its computer hardware. Everything needing a plugin of any third parties, not supported by Open Source should be installed and the contradictions with SELinux resolved ad hoc.<br><br>Some of the things on the live CD may be omitted to release a space of 100-150 kb to place there a video with instructions and presentation how to proceed further.<br><br>As far as GIMP is concerned, the GIMP itself may be reduced on the live CD
 to a basic GUI and some basic image processing. People who intent to use GIMP may install whatever they like in addition.<br><br>Regards<br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 8/8/09, fedora-desktop-list-request@redhat.com <i><fedora-desktop-list-request@redhat.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: fedora-desktop-list-request@redhat.com <fedora-desktop-list-request@redhat.com><br>Subject: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 11<br>To: fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com<br>Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 4:00 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Send Fedora-desktop-list mailing list submissions to<br>    <a ymailto="mailto:fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com">fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>    <a
 href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>    <a ymailto="mailto:fedora-desktop-list-request@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora-desktop-list-request@redhat.com">fedora-desktop-list-request@redhat.com</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br>    <a ymailto="mailto:fedora-desktop-list-owner@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora-desktop-list-owner@redhat.com">fedora-desktop-list-owner@redhat.com</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Fedora-desktop-list digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br>   1. Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 9 (Jesse Keating)<br>   2. Fit and Finish, round three: peripherals (Matthias
 Clasen)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:00:20 -0700<br>From: Jesse Keating <<a ymailto="mailto:jkeating@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jkeating@redhat.com">jkeating@redhat.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 9<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com">fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:1249660820.3759.113.camel@localhost.localdomain" href="/mc/compose?to=1249660820.3759.113.camel@localhost.localdomain">1249660820.3759.113.camel@localhost.localdomain</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 04:29 -0700, Hristo Petkov wrote:<br>> There are a lot of other things that can be dropped.<br><br>If you're going to make statements like that, you're going to have to<br>provide a
 patch or a list of those "other things" that can be dropped<br>that will match the space savings of dropping gimp.<br><br>-- <br>Jesse Keating<br>Fedora -- Freedomē is a feature!<br>identi.ca: <a href="http://identi.ca/jkeating" target="_blank">http://identi.ca/jkeating</a><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>Name: not available<br>Type: application/pgp-signature<br>Size: 197 bytes<br>Desc: This is a digitally signed message part<br>Url : <a href="https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/attachments/20090807/8baf4277/attachment.bin" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/attachments/20090807/8baf4277/attachment.bin</a><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:53:02 -0400<br>From: Matthias Clasen <<a ymailto="mailto:mclasen@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=mclasen@redhat.com">mclasen@redhat.com</a>><br>Subject: Fit
 and Finish, round three: peripherals<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:fedora-test-list@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora-test-list@redhat.com">fedora-test-list@redhat.com</a>,    Discussions about development for the<br>    Fedora desktop    <<a ymailto="mailto:fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com">fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com</a>>,     Development<br>    discussions related to Fedora Core    <<a ymailto="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=fedora-devel-list@redhat.com">fedora-devel-list@redhat.com</a>><br>Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:davidz@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=davidz@redhat.com">davidz@redhat.com</a><br>Message-ID: <1249663982.2242.7.camel@planemask><br>Content-Type: text/plain<br><br>Hi all,<br><br>time for another 'Fit and Finish' test day. This time, we want to
 look<br>at issues and use cases surrounding anything you can plug into your<br>computer, be it a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you<br>have at home... <br><br>Join us in #fedora-fit-and-finish on Freenode, on Aug 11 (next Tuesday).<br><br>For more information about this test day, see <br><a href="http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-04_Fit_and_Finish:Peripherals" target="_blank">http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-04_Fit_and_Finish:Peripherals</a><br><br>For more information about 'Fit and Finish', see<br><a href="http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish" target="_blank">http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish</a><br><br><br>Matthias<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>--<br>Fedora-desktop-list mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com" href="/mc/compose?to=Fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com">Fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com</a><br><a
 href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list</a><br><br>End of Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 11<br>***************************************************<br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>