From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Jul 2 20:33:17 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:33:17 -0500 Subject: Outage Notification - 2007-07-10 03:00 UTC Message-ID: <4689610D.7090103@redhat.com> There will be an outage starting at 2007-07-10 03:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2007-07-10 03:00 UTC' Affected Services: Websites Buildsystem Database Unaffected Services: CVS / Source Control DNS Mail Torrent Reason for Outage: Upgrading db1 and moving services to db2. This is a substantial change, please be patient. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From a.badger at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 15:10:38 2007 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:10:38 -0700 Subject: Packaging Guideline update:: Static Libraries Message-ID: <1183475438.5355.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> The static libraries changes passed two weeks ago have now been officially written into the Guidelines[1]_. These changes are: 1) If the library you depend on only provides a static library, you can link to it without asking FESCo provided that your BuildRequires is for the -devel subpackage. BuildRequire'ing the -devel means the subpackage will link against the dynamic library when/if it becomes available. If you BuildRequire the -static version you still must make your request of FESCo. 2) You are now asked to add yourself to the initialcclist of any library that you are linking to statically (whether via BR: -static or one of the exceptions) so that you will be more aware of any security issues that arise in the library. [1]_: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#StaticLinkage Thank you, -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From rnorwood at redhat.com Thu Jul 5 18:40:18 2007 From: rnorwood at redhat.com (Robin Norwood) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:40:18 -0400 Subject: perl-devel will be removed from the f8 buildroots In-Reply-To: (Robin Norwood's message of "Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:07:21 -0400") References: Message-ID: Robin Norwood writes: > Hi, > > On Monday, perl-devel will be removed from the f8 buildroots. This > means that if you try to build a perl-* package that uses the perl build > tools, you will need to add those tools to the BuildRequires for the > package. The most common will be: > > BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) > > But you should also watch the build output to make sure tests aren't > being skipped due to other missing modules. FESCo voted on this issue today and passed the following proposal: Remove perl-devel from default buildroot. Assist others with proper spec fixups. Alert time of removal is 1 week. So, what we'll be doing is: o Various people have volunteered to help convert packages to use the specific Buildrequires tags. If anyone wants to ask for assistance with their packages, do so here, and we'll take care of them for you. o There will soon be a 'perl-core' metapackage, that will Require everything that has been split from the main 'perl' package - essentially everything in the upstream tarball, except for suidperl. It is stronly encouraged that package maintainers BuildRequire the specific perl modules their package needs to build instead of this package. o Next Thursday (the 12th of July), the buildroots will be changed to remove the 'devel' bits This means that any packages that haven't been fixed yet will not build. But of course we can easily fix them on a one-off basis. -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Jul 6 15:45:23 2007 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:45:23 -0500 Subject: New Infrastructure Ticketing System Message-ID: <468E6393.7000301@redhat.com> The Infrastructure Team has decided to change ticketing systems. The new system is available at: https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/report We'll be continuing to set that site up but tickets can now be filed there. The previous ticketing system (at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/tickets/) turned out to be a bit to heavy for our teams needs. Using a Trac system feels more natural to us and we suspect it will feel more natural to the community as well. -Mike From wtogami at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 19:06:41 2007 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:06:41 -0400 Subject: Reminder: Fedora Update Tips Message-ID: <46967BC1.3020800@redhat.com> Tips for Fedora Package Maintainers when issuing updates. 1) Push or Revoke Updates-Testing ================================= https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/testing/F7 Please don't forget to deal with your packages sitting in updates-testing. Some packages were sitting here for more than a month. Your Updates Testing package may be marked as "Stable" if they are ready to be pushed as an official update. If you want to cancel an update, or if it was superseded by a newer package, you will want to "Unpush" it. 2) EVR Version Problems ======================= Currently F7 uses Bodhi (the Fedora Updates System) while FE-6 uses the legacy Extras buildsystem. This can sometimes create EVR promotion problems between the distributions. Example: 1) foo-1.2.3-1.fc7 foo-1.2.3-1.fc6 2) foo-1.2.4-1.fc7 is pushed to F7 updates-testing foo-1.2.4-1.fc6 is built for FE-6 3) FC6 version of foo is "newer" than foo in F7, because the FC6 package went directly into the repository while the F7 package is only in testing. Suggested Workaround: Build for FE6 only *after* the F7 update has been officially pushed. Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Jul 19 14:58:41 2007 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:58:41 -0400 Subject: Fedora 8 Test 1 Freeze in 5 days Message-ID: <20070719105841.659dfa97@localhost.localdomain> That's right, it's about to get a lot colder in here. The Freeze date is set for July 24th, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/Schedule To accomplish the freeze, we'll be following our existing policy: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/DevelFreezePolicy And for a more overview of what a freeze is please see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Overview#head-f1ce962de535354f76b5103bac7be2d22c9a9045 At this time, the release engineering team will be working hard to resolve the current broken deps and conflicts and upgrade paths issues. Therefor your packages may wind up getting updated by us if you haven't gotten to them yet. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From notting at redhat.com Thu Jul 19 18:45:00 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:45:00 -0400 Subject: NOTE: Please publicize any license changes to your packages Message-ID: <20070719184500.GC20184@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> The Fedora Engineering Steering Committee would like to remind maintainers that a license change in a package is a very serious event - it has as many, if not more, implications for related packages as ABI changes do. Therefore, if your package changes license, even if it just changes the license version, it is required that you announce it, whether on this list or fedora-devel-list. Note that any license change to a more restrictive license or license version may affect the legality of portions of Fedora as a whole; ergo, FESCo reserves the right to block upgrades of packages to versions with new licenses to ensure the legal distribution of Fedora. Please contact FESCo if you have any questions. Bill From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Jul 24 17:02:13 2007 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:02:13 -0400 Subject: Koji outage Message-ID: <20070724130213.01236d2a@localhost.localdomain> Due to some DNS changes this morning, Koji is having troubles contacting the CVS server. We are working as fast as we can to resolve this issue. Thanks. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you feel you must have your build in Test1 and it isn't already tagged with 'f8-test1', please follow http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/DevelFreezePolicy If you wish to help us get to Test1, please follow http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/8/Test1TreeTesting -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Jul 25 17:00:54 2007 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:00:54 -0400 Subject: Package rebuilds for binutils/gcc bug Message-ID: <20070725130054.10bb7f37@localhost.localdomain> Re https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=249435 , there are a number of packages that need to be rebuilt (and subsequently tagged for the test release). The list of packages is the intersection of packages that were built with the combination of binutils >= 2.17.50.0.17-2 && binutils <= 2.17.50.0.17-4 && gcc >= 4.1.2-16 and not noarch. The list is at http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/needrebuild While not every package will show errors, we're going to rebuild them just in case. Fedora rel-eng will be working to rebuild these packages today. If you were already rebuilding one of these, please drop a line to rel-eng at fedoraproject.org so that we don't step on each other. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Currently, around 1000 packages are available, and we've been growing at the rate of several dozen packages every week. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL How to use EPEL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse You can look for packages here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#WhereIsTheSoftwareRepositoryLocated Looking for a package not in EPEL or other questions? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 21:35:04 2007 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:35:04 -0400 Subject: Fedora 8 Test 1 slipping Message-ID: <20070731173504.4a0a704e@localhost.localdomain> Due to an ongoing issue with booting many Dells (and some Toshiba) systems via CD, we've had to delay the release of Test1. The good news is that we've found a solution and a new kernel is building in koji as I type this. The bad news is that there is not enough time to get the output of that build and spin it into a set of trees for release on Thursday. As such, we're slipping the release to Tuesday of next week, August 7. This gives us time to consume the kernel build and generate a release candidate tree early tomorrow, and spend all day, and all of Thursday beating on it for real blocker issues. Friday morning is our Go/No Go point. If all things are Go, we'll be handing it off to mirrors and giving them the weekend and Monday to sync up the release. If we're No Go, we will determine then a new release date. All the gory details can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/8/Test1TreeTesting Cheers! -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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