From jonstanley at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 05:16:23 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 01:16:23 -0400 Subject: New bugzilla whiteboard tag - NeedsRetesting Message-ID: The QA and Bug Triage teams within Fedora are pleased to announce that we have introduced a new tag to use within Bugzilla - NeedsRetesting. Put this in the 'Status Whiteboard' field if you want the QA team to test a resolution to your bug. There is a link to a query of all bugs having this tag on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA under 'Release Testing'. Ideally, bugs that have this keyword will not be hardware specific, and should be hopefully) resolved, you just need confirmation. If there is specific hardware required, then please make a note of it, however, we cannot guarantee that any of the QA contributors actually have any particular piece of hardware. If you test one of these bugs, please remove the status whiteboard field, such that the effort is not duplicated. This is an effort to further drive quality in the project, and to keep the bug counts manageable. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions about this. -- Jon Stanley Fedora Bug Wrangler jstanley at fedoraproject.org From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 15:39:47 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:39:47 -0400 Subject: Purging old Fedora test releases Message-ID: <1207150787.3063.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> In order to make room for Fedora 9 and future releases, we are purging all the old test releases on download.fedora.redhat.com. Both the Core and post-Core test releases up to but not including Fedora 9 Beta. The content has been archived internally at Red Hat and may one day show up again for download on an archive site, but given that they were just test releases that's not likely to happen. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Specifically: New guidelines describing how to package OpenOffice.org extensions can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/OpenOffice.orgExtensions New guidelines describing how to package Tcl/Tk addons can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Tcl The OCaml Packaging Guidelines have been updated: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/OCaml ?The Perl Packaging Guidelines have been significantly fleshed out: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Perl The Fedora Package Naming Guidelines have been updated to reflect the new guidelines for package naming (OpenOffice.org and Tcl/Tk). In addition, all Fedora packages must be named using a specified subset of ASCII characters. For details, please see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines Also, the main Fedora Packaging Guidelines have been updated with links to the new guidelines for specific package types (OpenOffice.org, Tcl/Tk): http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC) and ratified by FESCo. Many thanks to Caolan McNamara, Michael Thomas, Richard Jones, and all of the members of the FPC and FESCo, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. A reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot From tcallawa at redhat.com Thu Apr 3 19:49:42 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:49:42 -0400 Subject: [Guidelines Change] Even More Changes to the Packaging Guidelines Message-ID: <1207252182.3041.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> In a special session this week, the Fedora Packaging Committee has gotten even more changes done. Specifically: New guidelines describing how to package Java software can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Java *** This lifts the hold on Java Packages *** New guidelines describing how to deal with GCJ compilation in Java packages can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GCJGuidelines New guidelines describing how to package Eclipse plugins can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/EclipsePlugins New guidelines describing how to deal with SysV-style Initscripts can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/SysVInitScript The Fedora Package Naming Guidelines have been updated to reflect the new guidelines for package naming (EclipsePlugins). For details, please see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines Also, the main Fedora Packaging Guidelines have been updated with links to the new guidelines for specific package types (Java, EclipsePlugins), as well as cleanups regarding Initscripts: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines Last but not least, Scriptlet Snippets has been simplified to point to the new SysVInitScript guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC) and ratified by FESCo. Many thanks to Andrew Overholt, Ville Skytt??, Thomas Fitzsimmons, Nicolas Mailhot, all of the other Java helpers I've forgotten, and all of the members of the FPC and FESCo, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. A reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Apr 4 19:45:04 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:45:04 -0400 Subject: Rawhide 20080404 Snapshot Released Message-ID: <1207338304.3110.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> As part of our development schedule, we are releasing a snapshot of Rawhide in Live form. We are releasing these via bittorrent only as it is a much lighter weight method to get bits out the door than to go through our mirroring system. If you cannot use bittorrent we apologize for the inconvenience. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ has a section marked Rawhide-20080404-Snapshot with Live torrents. Due to ongoing issues with X in anaconda we do not have CDs/DVDs of rawhide at this time. We may add them if an X fix happens. Please us bugzilla to report any problems you find (after making sure that somebody else hasn't already reported the issues). The Beta release notes ( http://fedoraproject.org/en/f9-beta-relnotes ) still mostly apply. Thanks for all the testing! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From poelstra at redhat.com Mon Apr 7 00:21:38 2008 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:21:38 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Final Freeze coming--feature page updates needed] Message-ID: <47F96912.50004@redhat.com> This email was sent to all individual feature owners. I'm sending it a few other place to keep everyone in the loop and to route around those that have black-listed the feature wrangler's or are waiting for me to send post cards ;-) If you are depending on information about the features below you may want to set wiki page watches to track changes and updates Thanks, John -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Final Freeze coming--feature page updates needed Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:17:34 -0700 From: John Poelstra Hello Feature People :) With final development freeze coming on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 (two days from now in most parts of the world--less in others), sadly this is one of the last times you'll be able to receive nag mail from me for Fedora 9. ;-) Final Development Freeze, defined here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy means that all features must be at 100% completion by this date. Yes, we know "this is Fedora" and "stuff is never 100% done" and all the usual arguments about "what does percentage completion really mean, etc., etc.", but for the average user and members of the other Fedora teams it is important and very helpful to make one last update to your feature page... and for those that will still complain, please make some constructive suggestions for improving the process and lobby to change it for Fedora 10 :) These feature pages are pointed to by a lot by the press and used by many other teams to turn Fedora into a polished looking release so your help is greatly needed and appreciated. You have the distinct privilege of receiving this message because you are listed as the owner for one or more features that are not listed at 100% completion, though many are very close! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureDictionary http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ext4 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureEncryptedFilesystems http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OneSecondX http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Firefox3 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/freeIPA http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewGdm http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XULRunner http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvops http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtStorage http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Upstart http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XserverOnePointFive http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureTexLive http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/SecondStageInstallSource http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RandrSupport http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PartitionResizing http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PackageKit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LivePersistence http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureKDE4 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/K12Linux http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/JigdoRelease http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IMDesktopIntegration http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewGdm I've received several questions in the past about what to do to bring a feature page to 100% or what to do if all the advertised things on the feature page can't be completed in time. Hopefully this helps... 1) If you implemented all of the things described on your feature page and the package is in rawhide, update to 100% 2) If you DID NOT implement all of the things described on your feature page a) change the feature page to reflect all the things you DID complete for Fedora 9 b) make sure the package is in rawhide c) update to 100% d) if you plan to do more unfinished exciting things in F10 move them to a new feature page 3) If your feature page will end up being empty or very brief in order to honestly say it is 100% done it probably should be removed from the Fedora 9 feature list. Simply change the category of your feature page to CategoryProposedFeature (from CategoryAcceptedFedora9) and let me know 4) If this is still confusing, please contact me :) Thanks for your help, John 'tired feature wrangler and yes this manual process is starting to not scale any more' Poelstra From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Apr 8 01:01:48 2008 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 04:01:48 +0300 Subject: Reminder: Repackage with Translations before Development Freeze (next 24h) Message-ID: <6d4237680804071801r4d198500oba2bf453256252b8@mail.gmail.com> For packagers of shipped packages that receive translations from Fedora L10n: Today was the deadline for translation contributions guaranteed to make it into the release. If your packages has received translations, please repackage them before the development freeze date of 8/4 (ie. tomorrow). For Fedora 10, we'll make sure the period to get translations and repackage will be at least a few days. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Apr 8 15:22:36 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:22:36 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9 Final Freeze Message-ID: <1207668156.6689.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> We froze for Fedora 9 early this morning (the same time the rawhide compose happened). This is our final freeze. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy explains the policy. We're planning a snapshot we'll call 'Preview Release' this Thursday or Friday. Then release candidates will be created next week. If it becomes obvious that we will have to slip the release date for getting certain bugs fixed we will announce very loudly as soon as we make the decision. Mass CVS branching will come later this week so that folks can begin work on F10. PS: to see if your build is tagged for Fedora 9, check 'koji latest-pkg f9-final ' -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 9 21:47:37 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:47:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Outage Notification - 2008-04-09 20:30:30 UTC Message-ID: There will be an outage starting at 2008-04-09 20:30:30 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-04-09 20:30:30 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem Unaffected Services: Websites CVS / Source Control Database DNS Mail Torrent Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/400 Reason for Outage: More NFS Lock issues https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436174 We recently reverted to a RHEL4 box in hopes that the older version might be more stable but the older kernel and utils did not support our large 10T ext3 filesystem. So we started seeing IO errors. This caused the fs to get mounted RO and caused the first outage. Upon rebuilding nfs1 as a RHEL5 box I decided it best to run e2fsck for good measure. That's where we are at now. The box is up, all configured to export but we're running e2fsck. I'd expect it to be done within the hour. Sorry for all the confusion in this we're working towards a solution. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From mbp at redhat.com Thu Apr 10 15:09:28 2008 From: mbp at redhat.com (marco bill-peter) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:09:28 -0400 Subject: Red Hat Support Engineering Team is looking for talented, motivated engineers around the world! Message-ID: <47FE2DA8.1040202@redhat.com> hi Fedora Developers Have you ever thought of making your passion your day job? The Red Hat 3rd level Support Engineering Group - is always looking for talented engineers in almost all corners of the world! If you're interested, go to http://www.redhat.com/about/careers/ and search for 3rd/third level Support Engineering. Apply directly to the website, even if the location is not your current home country. Also feel free to email me directly if you have any question about this position. marco bill-peter Senior Director Support Engineering Group Red Hat mbp at redhat dot com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Following is a small abstract of the role of our engineers. 3rd level Support Engineer Summary Resolves complex customer problems on the Linux packages, or other complex RH products like GFS, RHCS. This Support Engineer will work closely with RedHat?s front line support engineers, the RH development engineering and the upstream communities. The engineer analyzes upstream development against current customer reported defects (bugs) and develops patches or workaround to resolve the issues. * Develops and recommends corrective workarounds. * Uses skills as a seasoned, experienced professional with a full understanding of industry practices and company policies and procedures; resolves a wide range of issues in imaginative as well as practical ways. * Demonstrates considerable judgment in selecting methods and techniques for obtaining solutions. * Interacts with senior internal and external personnel (upstream community). * Works independently on tasks with minimal guidance on complex issues. Job Requirements * 5 years related experience * Excellent understanding of Linux components, or/and kernel, virtual memory, networking concepts and protocols. * Upstream Linux and Fedora Project or Kernel engagement a plus * Familiar with other operating systems including Solaris, AIX, Tru64 and Microsoft Windows Server desirable * Good understanding of hardware and computer architecture * Development level experience with C, be comfortable to write kernel patches * Experience writing scripts using BASH or Python, Perl to troubleshoot and correct Linux issues. From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Apr 15 04:14:19 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:14:19 -0400 Subject: Rawhide issues Message-ID: <1208232859.3185.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> Some of you may have noticed some "issues" with rawhide today. Many (most) the packages reverted to unsigned versions, and then at some point today, the content went back in time to yesterday. This is because of a timing issue with trying to sign all the packages for Fedora 9 release. A small thinko led to a big churn that I tried to cut off before it got too far. I think I've recovered most of the damage, and I've prevented rawhide from being composed again until we're done signing packages, which hopefully will be at some point tomorrow. Just wanted to keep you all informed of what's going on. Cheers! P.S. Preview Release is also pending these signatures. It will happen, eventually (: -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There are less than two weeks remaining until the original target date of April 29th. About a week before that date we have to have everything locked and loaded for distribution by our mirrors. That small a timeframe would then make the Preview Release -- normally a very important part of our release schedule -- nearly useless. This slip is not intended to make room for more changes, it is only intended to make room for fixing the things we already know about, and allowing new things to be found, and evaluated as release blocking, and fixed. There are also a fair number of bugs we think we've already fixed, but need wider audience testing to be sure. The current blocker list is viewable at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=235706&hide_resolved=1 however since there is nothing preventing people from adding bugs to this list it will get culled from time to time from things that aren't actually blockers. A (rather longer) list of things we'd like to see fixes for can be seen https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=235705&hide_resolved=1 although this list does get less attention than the blocker list. We deeply appreciate the value we get from our community in using our development tree and testing our release attempts. Without your input, our releases couldn't possibly be as good as they have been. Please help us use these extra couple of weeks to make the already awesome Fedora 9 even better! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Apr 17 21:31:48 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:31:48 -0400 Subject: Number 9, number 9. Fedora 9 Preview has been cleared for takeoff! Message-ID: <1208467908.3235.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> After some minor delays (like all rawhide flights grounded for a few days of repair...), the Fedora Project is proud to announce the release of Fedora 9 Preview! This is a Preview release, it is fairly close to what the final product will be like. This is the most critical release for the Fedora community to use and test and report bugs on. This is the last major public release before the final GOLD Fedora 9 release on May 13th (we hope). For this Preview release, we will be doing a staged offering. The first stage, available now, will be via bittorrent. The second stage, which should be available early next week, will be via our world wide mirroring system, and will include jigdo. Live images, KDE Live images, CDs and DVD options are available. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org has a section marked "F9-Preview". Please us bugzilla to report any problems you find (after making sure that somebody else hasn't already reported the issues). Thanks again for all the great testing work that the greater community does throughout our development cycle! You make Fedora possible. You are Fedora! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 20:19:42 2008 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:19:42 -0700 Subject: Outage Notification - 2008-04-18 19:05 UTC Message-ID: <4809025E.8030406@gmail.com> We experienced an unplanned outage of the buildsystem starting at 19:05 UTC and being resolved by 19:51 UTC. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Affected Services: Websites Buildsystem Unaffected Services: CVS / Source Control Database DNS Mail Torrent Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/510 Reason for Outage: One of the xen servers crashed, taking all with it all the guests on it. The koji hub is the only non-load balanced application on that server so it was the only service that suffered an outage. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Reason for Outage: Mass branch for F-9. We need to disable change mail and ACL lookups to make the branching happen as fast as possible. Contact Information: Jesse Keating Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sun Apr 20 17:21:04 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:21:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Rawhide Builds coming later Message-ID: We're slowly narrowing down some issues we've been seeing. As a result I'm in the process of picking possible trigger apps (apps we think may be causing the outages to occur) and moving them to times when we're not all asleep. As a result the rawhide build script will be moved 4 hours later then it currently is. -Mike From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Apr 21 13:56:55 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:56:55 -0400 Subject: CVS Outage In-Reply-To: <1208631941.3445.88.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208631941.3445.88.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1208786215.3258.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 15:05 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > > There will be an outage starting at 2008-04-19 18:00 UTC. Initial > estimates show that 30 hours will be needed to complete the branching, > however this may drastically be reduced during the full run. Unfortunately this outage is still ongoing. I failed to get a notification when the first leg finished around 2am my time and lost 6~ hours to sleep. All the PackageDB settings are done (barring a few failures) and we're well into the packages that start with "p" for making the branches within CVS. I expect it to take another half a day or so to finish. Future Recommendation: Enable methods of doing mass branching without incurring an outage. Make pkgdb be able to bypass mail sending, and make CVS be able to bypass mail sending for these operations. Will take longer overall, but no outage. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 22:09:28 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:09:28 -0400 Subject: Change in Board composition Message-ID: <1208815768.4737.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> Since the Fedora Board originally formed in 2006, the Fedora Project has changed quite a bit. We now have about two-thirds of our packages maintained by volunteer community members. Our technical steering committee, FESCo, is made up of a roughly even mix of volunteers and Red Hat employees. This community has developed and enforced its own high standards and done it in an open and transparent fashion in the best tradition of open source. And through all of these efforts, we've helped build a community of contributors -- not just people who *use* Fedora, but people who *give back* to the open source ecosystem, and their fellow human beings. I'm very pleased to report that with the post-Fedora 9 election, the Board composition will be a better reflection of the strides our community has made in self-organization and self-governance, and of our healthy partnership with Red Hat. Starting with this election, the Board will move to a composition of five (5) community-elected seats and four (4) Red Hat-appointed seats. This is an issue I've been advocating over the past couple of weeks, and I'm delighted to be able to make this change following my first release as Fedora Project Leader. I look at this as a significant step in the evolution of the Board and Fedora's governance overall. The rest of the Board and I look forward to the elections, and to the continued opportunity to serve everyone in the Fedora community. We appreciate the support and the trust you give us, and will always work hard to earn it. Thanks for reading! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I failed to get a > notification when the first leg finished around 2am my time and lost 6~ > hours to sleep. All the PackageDB settings are done (barring a few > failures) and we're well into the packages that start with "p" for > making the branches within CVS. I expect it to take another half a day > or so to finish. > > Future Recommendation: > Enable methods of doing mass branching without incurring an outage. > Make pkgdb be able to bypass mail sending, and make CVS be able to > bypass mail sending for these operations. Will take longer overall, but > no outage. > The marathon outage is finally over. This should be the last outage we ever do for CVS branching. One thing that has changed is you can no longer checkout fake branch trees like "cvs co cvs/pkgs/F-7". Those modules have been disabled due to limited usefulness, frequent breakage, and rather time consuming setup in the modules file. Nor can you checkout a package branch only, such as bash-F-7. On the plus side it makes branching significantly faster and new package creation significantly faster. PackageDB will be enabled again in the next few minutes, and the ACL script will run again too. Please let us know if you experience any difficulties or seem to be missing an F-9 branch. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1208467908.3235.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208467908.3235.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1208890159.3258.126.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:31 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > For this Preview release, we will be doing a staged offering. The first > stage, available now, will be via bittorrent. The second stage, which > should be available early next week, will be via our world wide > mirroring system, and will include jigdo. Direct download and jigdo download options are now available for Fedora 9 Preview. Please see http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease for details. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some will be off during the duration of the time for safety / data protection. Some systems we'll be moving to alternate sites. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From tcallawa at redhat.com Tue Apr 22 20:08:04 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:08:04 -0400 Subject: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines Message-ID: <1208894884.12717.99.camel@localhost.localdomain> Two changes have recently been made to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines. Specifically: The main Fedora Packaging Guidelines now has a section which forbids packages to own files or directories under /srv. This new section can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#NoFilesOrDirectoriesUnderSrv As a reminder, any Fedora packages which are currently owning files or directories under /srv need to be fixed before the release of Fedora 10. The guidelines describing how to deal with GCJ compilation in Java packages have been amended to conditionalize GCJ: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GCJGuidelines These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC) and ratified by FESCo. Many thanks to Lubomir Kundrak, and all of the members of the FPC and FESCo, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. A reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 22 20:10:16 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:10:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Outage Notification - 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC (fwd) Message-ID: Sorry everyone, the previous message had the wrong date. The correct date is: 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike McGrath To: fedora-devel-announce at redhat.com Cc: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com, fedora-docs-list at redhat.com, Fedora Art List , For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base , fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Subject: Outage Notification - 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC, which will last approximately 5 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-05-03 14:00 UTC' Affected Services: Websites CVS / Source Control Buildsystem Database Mail All auth systems Unaffected Services: Torrent DNS fedorapeople.org planet Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/519 Reason for Outage: The network guys will be performing a number of upgrades during this outage window which is expected to last 5 hours. Systems will be up and down during this time. Some will be off during the duration of the time for safety / data protection. Some systems we'll be moving to alternate sites. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Apr 22 21:13:00 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:13:00 -0400 Subject: Extra branch noise Message-ID: <1208898780.3258.137.camel@localhost.localdomain> Turns out about 200 packages didn't get branched for F-9 (and there was no errors either, grr). I'm doing those now, and instead of incurring another outage, we'll just let the mail get noisy for a bit. Sorry bout this folks. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For the clarified wording, see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#StaticLibraries Guidelines for packaging Sugar Activities are now in place, they live at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/SugarActivityGuidelines (they are also referenced in the Packaging/Guidelines and Packaging/NamingGuidelines) Many thanks to Dennis Gilmore, and all of the members of the FPC and FESCo, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. A reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot From notting at redhat.com Mon Apr 28 18:34:11 2008 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:34:11 -0400 Subject: Note: builds moved to dist-f9-updates-candidate Message-ID: <20080428183411.GA30316@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Any builds that are not currently tagged for release with Fedora 9 are now being moved to dist-f9-updates-candidate. The list of moved builds is attached. If one of these builds fixes a blocker or similarly severe bug, please request it to be added via the final freeze policy located at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy Otherwise, bodhi will be open for business for Fedora 9 shortly. 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writer2latex-0.5-3.fc9 caolanm xcircuit-3.4.28-1.fc9 chitlesh xfce4-diskperf-plugin-2.2.0-1.fc9 cwickert xfwm4-theme-nodoka-0.1-1.fc9 cwickert xine-plugin-1.0.1-2.fc9 mso xmlrpc-c-1.14.2-1.fc9 ensc xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-12.fc9 airlied xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-23.fc9 ajax xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd-1.2.1-1.fc9 ndim xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.7-7.fc9 ajax xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.2-5.fc9 ajax xscorch-0.2.0-13.fc9 mgarski xterm-235-1.fc9 mlichvar xulrunner-1.9-0.58.beta5.fc9 caillon yap-5.1.1-10.fc9 gemi zabbix-1.4.5-2.fc9 jwilson zaptel-1.4.10-1.fc9 jcollie From lmacken at redhat.com Mon Apr 28 19:46:10 2008 From: lmacken at redhat.com (Luke Macken) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:46:10 -0400 Subject: Note: builds moved to dist-f9-updates-candidate In-Reply-To: <20080428183411.GA30316@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20080428183411.GA30316@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080428194610.GB5672@x300> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 02:34:11PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Any builds that are not currently tagged for release with Fedora 9 > are now being moved to dist-f9-updates-candidate. > > The list of moved builds is attached. If one of these builds fixes > a blocker or similarly severe bug, please request it to be added via > the final freeze policy located at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy > > Otherwise, bodhi will be open for business for Fedora 9 shortly. Bodhi should now be able to accept Fedora 9 updates. Please let me know if you have any problems! luke From rdieter at math.unl.edu Tue Apr 29 17:32:01 2008 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:32:01 -0500 Subject: qt-4.4/kde-4.1 coming to cvs (F-10 branch) Message-ID: <48175B91.8090500@math.unl.edu> FYI, The fedora KDE-SIG will be importing qt-4.4 and kde-4.1 (alpha1) into cvs (devel, aka F-10 branch) soonish, so expect the ride to bumpy for a bit while we work out the kinks and (probable) broken dependencies. -- Rex