From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Apr 10 15:09:36 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:09:36 -0700 Subject: Fedora 11 Snapshot 1 Message-ID: <1239376176.7037.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> This is the first and final snapshot before our final devel freeze (April 14th) and subsequent preview release. On the torrent sites you'll find live images for testing. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org and http://spins.fedoraproject.org Lots of work has gone into the storage code of Anaconda since the Beta release, please do re-test with these images if you had difficulty installing the Beta. Please use bugzilla ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report ) to report any problems you find (after making sure that somebody else hasn't already reported the issues). The Beta release notes ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes ) still mostly apply. Thanks and happy testing! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Apr 10 15:26:57 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:26:57 -0700 Subject: Final Development Freeze Coming!! Message-ID: <1239377217.7037.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> The final devel freeze for Fedora 11 is this coming Tuesday. After that point, any changes will have to be explicitly approved as per the Final Freeze policy[1]. Now would be a very very good time to check the Fedora 11 Blocker[2] and Tracker[3] bugs for things that involve your packages. There is only this week's snapshot, then the preview release before our final release. Lets work hard and together to make Fedora 11 awesome! It should be obvious, but /please/ avoid any risky change in your packages at this point, or any change that will effect large swaths of packages. [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy [2]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1 [3]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Target&hide_resolved=1 -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From poelstra at redhat.com Fri Apr 10 21:52:36 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:52:36 -0700 Subject: All Features Need to be 100% by Final Development Freeze (2009-04-14) Message-ID: <49DFBFA4.3080804@redhat.com> Hello Feature People :) If all goes as planned, as previously announced by Jesse Keating, the Final Development Freeze will happen this coming Tuesday, April 14, 2009. Final Development Freeze, defined here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy means that all features and their associated feature pages must be at 100% completion by this date. The following features do not currently meet this criteria and need to by April 14, 2009. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/20SecondStartup https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaStorageRewrite https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ControlGroups https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNSSEC https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ext4DefaultFs https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/gcc4.4 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IBus https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IntelKMS https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewTextUI https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauModesetting https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MultiplePAMStacksInGDM https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagement https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.6 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Radeon3DUpdate https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.7 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/StrongerHashes https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EFI https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControl https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XserverOnePointSix We understand that software is never 100% complete, however given the wide audience that refers to our feature page list it does not make sense to advertise something that isn't there. Please make one last update to your feature page to make it reflect everything that is complete for Fedora 10. Functionality this is not complete should be removed or clearly labled as scheduled for a future release so that what is advertised for being in Fedora 11 is 100% present and complete. I will raise feature pages not at 100% with FESCo on April 17, 2009. Hopefully my job will be easy and there there won't be any :-). Thanks, John From tcallawa at redhat.com Tue Apr 14 15:39:03 2009 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:39:03 -0400 Subject: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines Message-ID: <49E4AE17.6050905@redhat.com> As usual, the Fedora Packaging Committee has been busy improving the Fedora Packaging Guidelines. Specifically: The Packaging Guidelines now explicitly permit desktop files to be generated inside a spec file (previously, this was implicitly acceptable): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#.desktop_file_creation The Packaging Guidelines have a new section covering Explicit Requires. They should be avoided in Fedora packages except when absolutely necessary. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Explicit_Requires The Packaging Guidelines have a new section covering Symlinks. There are two types of Symlinks, Absolute and Relative. Neither is required, packagers should use their own best judgement when determining which to use in their package. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Symlinks The Packaging Guidelines have a new section covering the use of %global over %define. Whenever possible, Fedora packages should use %global. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#.25global_preferred_over_.25define The Packaging Guidelines have a new section covering the Use of Epochs. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Use_of_Epochs The Packaging Guidelines have been updated to clarify the section on Duplicate Files. A Fedora package must not list a file more than once in the spec file's %files listings. If you think your package is a valid exception to this, please bring it to the attention of the Packaging Committee so they can improve on this Guideline. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplicate_Files The SourceURL section of the Packaging Guidelines has a new subsection on handling Troublesome URLs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL#Troublesome_URLs The Packaging Naming Guidelines has added an exception for Documentation Packages to embed the OS version in the name. Note: Packages wishing to leverage this exception will need to get explicit approval from the Fedora Documentation Project. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:NamingGuidelines#Documentation_Packages_with_Embedded_OS_versioning The Scriptlet Snippets page section on Icon Cache handling was updated: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets#Icon_Cache The Haskell Guidelines were updated: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Haskell The PHP Guidelines were updated to handle Channel packages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:PHP These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC) and ratified by FESCo. Many thanks to Remi Collet, Yaakov Nemoy, Lubomir Rintel, and all of the members of the FPC and FESCo, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. As a reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Apr 14 20:18:07 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:18:07 -0700 Subject: Planned CVS Outage - 2009-04-15 0300 UTC Message-ID: <1239740287.3689.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Outage Notification - 2009-04-15 03:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2009-04-15 03:00 UTC, which will last roughly 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-04-15 03:00 UTC' Affected Services: CVS / Source Control Reason for Outage: Mass branching for F-11 Contact Information: Jesse Keating Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 13:18 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > Outage Notification - 2009-04-15 03:00 UTC > > There will be an outage starting at 2009-04-15 03:00 UTC, which will last > roughly 2 hours. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto > or run: > > date -d '2009-04-15 03:00 UTC' > > Affected Services: > > CVS / Source Control > > Reason for Outage: > Mass branching for F-11 > > Contact Information: > Jesse Keating > > Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track > the status of this outage. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-devel-announce mailing list > Fedora-devel-announce at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://jkeating.livejournal.com) Fedora Project (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) identi.ca (http://identi.ca/jkeating) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Apr 15 08:45:23 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:45:23 -0700 Subject: Frozen for Fedora 11 Message-ID: <1239785123.5734.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> We've reached the final freeze, as well as mass branched. From this point on, builds from F-11/ will go to dist-f11-updates-candidate and builds from devel/ will go to dist-f12. dist-f11 itself is locked. To request a freeze override, please use the Final Freeze Policy[1] If you're closing bugs by doing builds, please ensure that those builds get properly tagged for our final release. To check the status of your particular build/package, you can look at the contents of the 'dist-f11' tag in Koji. This is the tag for rawhide, and what rawhide will compose from until F11 is done. koji latest-pkg dist-f11f10-final It's the last mile folks, lets make it awesome! [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FinalFreezePolicy -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From poelstra at redhat.com Fri Apr 17 04:33:38 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:33:38 -0700 Subject: Final Reminder: F11 Features Not at 100% Message-ID: <49E806A2.1050100@redhat.com> Thanks for all your hard work to make these features a reality. We just need a little more information and one final update :) Feature freeze has past and the following feature pages still need updates. Some have not been updated for several months. All need to be at 100% completion and their content set to reflect that. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ext4DefaultFs https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/gcc4.4 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IntelKMS https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewTextUI https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauModesetting https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MultiplePAMStacksInGDM https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagement https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EFI https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XserverOnePointSix https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.6 I'm forwarding these to FESCo for discussion at their meeting tomorrow. Please update your page before 12 PM EDT so that they do not need to review it. Thank you, John p.s. All feature owners have been bcc'd on this message as well as the previous reminder. From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 28 13:54:55 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora 11 Preview Release announcement Message-ID: Memorandum of Intent to Release a Distribution of Understanding Things this email is about: - Fedora 11 Preview release - Where to get it - How to test it - Where to report problems Things this email is not about: - If there are too many sliders on a volume control - If there are not enough sliders on a volume control - Grumpiness Agenda Items: - Release Fedora 11 Preview Announcement - Tell everyone how to obtain the Preview Release - Tell everyone how to file bug reports Hidden Agenda: - Joy - Peace - Occasional fun-loving snarkiness Body: This is the Fedora 11 Preview release, we're just a short time from releasing the full shebang. Therefore we need the most testing we can possibly get on this one. On the torrent sites you'll find live images for testing: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org and http://spins.fedoraproject.org Everyone has been focused on fixing and closing their remaining bugs since the Fedora 11 Beta Release. Please use Bugzilla ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report ) to report any problems you find (after making sure that somebody else hasn't already reported the issues). The Preview release notes which can be found at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview/ will help you with any other details. Thanks and happy testing! -sv From peter at thecodergeek.com Tue Apr 28 07:04:10 2009 From: peter at thecodergeek.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:04:10 -0700 Subject: Heads-up - rb_libtorrent: soname bump, rebuilds required Message-ID: <1240902250.2741.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> I just pushed an update in F12's rawhide (devel branch) to rb_libtorrent which bumps its soname from "libtorrent-rasterbar.so.2" to "libtorrent-rasterbar.so.3" I also made this update in the F-11 branch, but am leaving it in the dist-f11-updates-candidate tag until all the necessary rebuilds are complete. (I have filed ticket #1667 asking that the excellent rel-eng folks to have it tagged into the buildroot override.) This is merely a bug-fix release, so a simple rebuild should be sufficient to work with this new version. However, should any problems arise please don't hesitate to poke me incessantly. ;) According to repoquery, the list of dependent packages (whose owners are CC-ed on this message) is as follows: * springlobby * qbittorrent Miro and Deluge also depend on rb_libtorrent, but only through the Python interface (rb_libtorrent-python), so they should not need such a rebuild. Thanks, and Regards. -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) Who am I? :: http://thecodergeek.com/about-me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: