<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>RE: Kernel Stack Sizes</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Get ready to watch this happen in the M$ world. XP service pack 2 is due to break a lot of things because of the security patches (which is just about all of the service pack =P) Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Brenneis [<A HREF="mailto:sbrenneis@surry.net">mailto:sbrenneis@surry.net</A>] > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:13 PM > To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core > Subject: Re: Kernel Stack Sizes > > > On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 22:05, Peter Maas wrote: > > > I have downloaded the linuxant kernels and installed > them. The nVidia > > > drivers and ndiswrapper work after a fashion. However, I > just discovered > > > that the sound drivers in FC2 no longer work as well. As > much as I would > > > like to reap the benefits of the 2.6 kernel, heigh-ho > heigh-ho it's back > > > to FC1 I go. Or maybe I'll try Mandrake. > > > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > This is not a Mandrake, Redhat, Fedora, Suse, etc issue > here, this is a, > > After vanilla kernel 2.6.6, 4K stacks are enforced, Linus > has spoken from on > > high, the discussion about it being in the kernel is over. > From this point > > on its all about bugfixes, if you find a problem, notify > the person in > > charge of fixing it. > > I understand all of this on a philosophical level and from the kernel > purist point of view. I guess my point is that the most > beautiful kernel > in the world doesn't do anyone any good if it won't operate > the hardware > that is being supplied with most of the systems being sold > today. Isn't > it the responsibility of the distributions to provide a full O/S that > functions on as many systems as possible? Red Hat has certainly never > been shy about distributing modified kernels before now. That > is more a > matter of survival than of purity. > > Another point: Linux has made great strides with the hardware > vendors. A > few short years ago, a company like nVidia would never have even > considered producing a Linux driver, binary or otherwise. Does it make > sense now to get up in their faces and say, in essence, "you > will now do > things to suit us?" Remember, they have little or no incentive to do > anything for Linux. > > I'm not advocating that Linux should dumb down for the masses > and end up > being just another M$ Windows, but I think it is a wise team that > recognizes every user of their O/S is not interested in being a kernel > hacker. I have built my share of custom kernels to suit > arcane hardware > and I have even written some device drivers myself, but I don't have > time to do that constantly and neither do the majority of Linux users. > > Just my $0.02. > > -- > Steve Brenneis <sbrenneis@surry.net> > > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@redhat.com > <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list" TARGET="_blank">http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list</A> > </BODY> </HTML>