Adding a further question, should I file a bug against the combined rad-hat menu? it waits til it is first clicked on to check for updates. The Gnome default menu (three buttons applications, and the other two) seems to work straight away. It has probably something to do with caching, as I believe gnome was looking into adding cache's for its menu? or maybe it is regenerated with the startup of gnome? (then the redhat menu should also be regenereated at ots startup.) The combined menu seems to have got faster since yesterday I think... but it still takes a noticeable amount of time, as (I assume) it is looking for the desktop files after being clicked on for the first time.