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Rudolf Kastl escreveu:
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<pre wrap="">Think about it once again - I can't make my DVD player, nor my portable
MP3 player, nor my car MP3 player (and so on...) to play Ogg Vorbis. In
the same time I CAN make my Fedora to play and even encode MP3, WMA and
other formats.
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When i buy hardware i make sure that it does what i want. if it
doesent i wont spend money on it. we can play through the "chicken and
egg" problem over and over.. The only starting point i see is if users
explicitely demand support for superior formats of those embedded
devices you talk about or not buy it at all while letting the industry
know, because then theres a business case... .
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<div align="justify">When I buy "hardware" (like DVD players, music
players, screens, TVs and other commodity stuff, I look for <u>avaiability</u>
and <u>price</u>. A chinese MP3 player costs about 50 bucks (US$) in
Brazil, but if I want a player that plays ogg and other formats it will
cost much more. I'll have to look for it (spend my time). It will be
virtually impossible to find a theora decoding video player (DVD). I'll
have to trust that it will have maintenance (replaceable bateries for
instance) and so on, so forth... To give you an idea, an iPod Nano is
sold, in Brazil, at R$1149,00 (US$638).<br>
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Thats what i see completly different... you state above that its a
"marketing issue" you arent completly wrong with that in my eyes...
marketing in this case does nothing but educate the user in a wrong
way though...
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<div align="justify">Unfortunatelly we live in a real world. In a
real world, a program can cost $0,99 if sells millions of copies or
$1.000 if one or two is the case... Besides, I don't think consumers
are stupid or uneducated. They just want confort. Industry supplies
them with both confort and reasonable prices (sometimes not). But if
addopting OGG is the case, them converters must be easily avaiable. GPL
players must be easily avaiable and not only for Linux (most people - I
mean 99,99%) uses M$. So someone must supply - at reasonable prices and
confort - players, codecs and converters. Finally, music and video are,
generally, intelectual property of someone and the form of encoding
does not relly on wishfull thinking of programmers that want to educate
the world. And as you are so carefull about "intelectual rights", many
times, if the author does not release its work under "Creative Commons"
or a similar license scheme, you cannot just convert from MP3 to OGG or
from MP4 or WMV to AVI without explicit consent and rights payment and
the assurance that the sound and video won't be altered by the
conversion process. It is not an easy issue.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Again i see parallels to politics... where the Marketing people (of
the industry) and the Politicians try to tell us that we exist to
"serve them" instead of vice versa most of above mentioned can really
be happy that most people dont know better.
The question there in my eyes is rhetorical: "Who is the customer?" or
rather "Where do you (as producer) get your money from in the end?".
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<div align="justify">I agree, so we must start to demand that our
preferred artists unsign from record companies and start to issue their
works under Creative Commons and that their work must be supplied using
free sites like SoundClick, PureVolume, 15megsoffame in both MP3 and
OGG formats... In my point of view, its an easy way of gettin killed or
sent an institution for the mentally disabled...<br>
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Change does only happen with enough demand... so lets start demanding :)
regards,
Rudolf Kastl
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