<div>On 4/14/06, Marius Andreiana <<a href="mailto:mandreiana.lists@gmail.com">mandreiana.lists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Greetings, I've installed FC5 in the same week it was released (as usual), after using FC5test on one of my systems. After almost a month I'd like to share my impressions, not as a rant, but as sign of warning regarding release quality. There are a lot of regressions from FC4. First, the replicable ones: * webdav in nautilus is very slow, unusable for daily usage (made bug, no reply) * TV tuner no longer working (made bug, seems like udev issue after some research, no reply) * totem subtitles no longer work properly (lots of "???" instead of letters) * on a 256mb RAM system GNOME it's hardly usable due to swapping with more than 2 applications opened (firefox and another small one, no ooo). Only minimal services (network, xfs..) are started automatically. These wouldn't have been much of a problem, but there are also several un-replicable issues: * window borders disappear sometimes and then all GNOME freezes. It's possible to go to console with alt+Fn and kill some processes, but no effect. X must be killed and restarted. * once any application trying to output sound (including play on command line) hanged (must use kill -9). Rebooting fixed it. * starting udev gives sometimes "wait timeout. Switching to background [failed]". Due to this, network start failed and bluetooth hanged. Rebooting fixed it. * mplayer complains sometimes that XVideo can't be opened. I know mplayer isn't part of fedora, but the problem is with X. Restarting X makes it work. To conclude, there are many issues impacting user productivity and also a worrying trend "reboot and it should work" (sounds familiar?) I know Fedora is very fast moving and we should expect bugs, but the FC5 release feels like rawhide. Is this intended and daily users should better look to RHEL? (Lack of Fedora Extras for RHEL prevents me to switch right now, the licensing it's not an issue) Do you have any advices for developers? I don't see any real-world solutions (unlike "developers should be more careful when writing code" or make test cases for every function with every use case possible), but still, the number of bugs is growing. Anyway, thanks for FC5 and the important technical developments which were included :) -- Marius Andreiana </blockquote></div>Pity. I'm sorry to hear that. Things workd perfectly (almost) with me for FC5 and KDE. Ironically the other day a poster called KDE a second class citizen in Fedora. I think I am doing more with my desktop in FC5 than in FC4. The only issues I am having is with my wificard and the madwifi drivers from livna. I hope you gets your issues resolved. -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins.