Sorry to but in guys, but..... I think there is an inherant differentiation between the ideology of the Fedora Project and it's user base and/or developers. Yes there maybe an update that may break a user's system if it was due to a driver that was not included at default installation. This goes to say that if a user installs the nVidia proprietary driver on his system, that means that it was his choice, not the developers. The user needs to take into account that if he installs the driver, it is not the developer's responsability to make sure that any update will not break the driver, but in fact it is the user's responsability. (i.e. if the user decides to install any piece of software, it is his responsability to make sure that it works!!!) No one sees Apple scrambling to make sure that if someone with a PowerMac G4 that gets an upgrade card from Sonnet, to improve clock-speed, they can get it working with every G4 Mac. The responsability falls with Sonnet to support the user, and if they decide not to untill 2 days/months/years later, it's the user's problem not the developer's. I would say that it is not the developer's deliberately trying to break user's machines, but them staying out of places they should not be! cjr <div>On 7/27/06, Leszek Matok <<a href="mailto:Lam@lam.pl" title="mailto:Lam@lam.pl" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Lam@lam.pl</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Dnia 27-07-2006, czw o godzinie 21:31 +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn napisał(a): > > the 7.1 update adds a lot better support for radeon and for Intel video > > and even 2D nvidia... > Users who want this support are free to upgrade to FC6 once it's released. > That's how new features are usually introduced, in new releases not in past > ones. So you're saying "better support for hardware" is "new features"? For me, until the hardware support is "full", making it better is "bug fixes". In any case, are you really saying that after releasing a "release" of an OS, the authors should stop providing updates if they can possibly introduce any new feature? :) I don't know any vendor doing that, but instead, you're free to not update your system (or go for some "from scratch" system and once you install it, spend the whole time backporting the fixes to your version, good luck!) Lam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEyRhsGU+CzS/wSzYRAoDkAKCJKYrtHxNWS+N+82GvCvpr8NoBMQCgm/7E MXJDUNzwTHHpWxpKqyeRPqs= =f7YS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com" title="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">fedora-devel-list@redhat.com </a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list" title="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list </a> </blockquote></div>