<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Gilboa Davara wrote: > > Unless I'm mistaken, the original idea was that -devel members has to be > sponsored before given rw rights. > Being a fedora developer and/or an active -extras maintainer will just > speed things up. No. fedora-devel-list was originally meant to be developer discussion only. End-user support does not belong here at all. Unfortunately, this list has been increasingly failing us for a few reasons: - "developer discussion" is a gray area - policing is a manual process of constant vigilance. Effort today leaves no lasting effects in a few days. What if more list members helped in the policing, making it an actively hostile place for end-users to post support questions? I dunno...</blockquote><div> Making any list actively hostile to end-users is a quick way to lose end-users. This is one of the reasons I no longer use openSuSE. </div> </div>