<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Unix tools should keep quiet unless an error occurs. If yum fails for some reason, you should know, either through an e-mail or by some other means. If you need to watch yum to make sure it works, you should consider filing a bug to make it more noisy on errors.</blockquote><div> i agree but i actually meant this also as expand arrow.. actually the same one as the one that i describe later on in the first post. and i think you misunderstand me on all other points. <blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Security updates are released every 1440 minutes (daily), Checking for updates every five minutes is overkill.</blockquote><div> that`s not what i mean.. when you run gnome and you see the update notifications but you don`t use that to update.. instead you use a terminal session to run all the updates. i think pup should be in same way be notified of that or just check to see if there ware new updates (yum list updates) or whatever.. there must be a way ^_^ </div> look at this: <a href="http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/clanky/tesar/ubuntu_510_software_update_stahovani_s.jpg">http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/clanky/tesar/ubuntu_510_software_update_stahovani_s.jpg</a> pup (while it`s updating) could look like that.. you will keep the user friendly stuff and you add stuff that the more technical people want. everyone happy mark </div> <div>2007/4/5, nodata <<a href="mailto:lsof@nodata.co.uk">lsof@nodata.co.uk</a>>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Am Donnerstag, den 05.04.2007, 22:54 +0200 schrieb Mark: > Hey, > > i seem to be on a topic spree today.. > anyway.. i rarely use pup because i want to see the download speeds > for the packages and want to abort them if needed + i want to see any > possible errors that occur. Unix tools should keep quiet unless an error occurs. If yum fails for some reason, you should know, either through an e-mail or by some other means. If you need to watch yum to make sure it works, you should consider filing a bug to make it more noisy on errors. > now i just did a update and i noticed that pup isn`t refreshing itself > to see if there are newer updates or if another program took care of > the updates.. pup won't notice a yum update. This needs to be bugzillaed. > > i know that you can manually refresh pup but wouldn`t it be better to > auto refresh pup once every 5 minutes? Security updates are released every 1440 minutes (daily), Checking for updates every five minutes is overkill. > and a pup suggestion.. could it be possible to show the yum output in > pup (with a expand arrow)? pup is aimed at making security updates simple for non-technical people. A lot of technical people seem to want to make pup into a graphical yum, which means we will later need yet another program that aims to be aimed at non-technical people. > > this is (probably) my last topic today. > more bug hunting tomorrow. > > Mark > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > <a href="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com">fedora-devel-list@redhat.com</a> > <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list"> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list</a> -- fedora-devel-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com">fedora-devel-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list"> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list</a> </blockquote></div>