On 5/3/07, Kevin Kofler <<a href="mailto:kevin.kofler@chello.at">kevin.kofler@chello.at</a>> wrote:<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Jos Poortvliet <jos <at> <a href="http://mijnkamer.nl">mijnkamer.nl</a>> writes: > Dear people,In a few days KDE 4 alpha 1 will be released, and we would like > to give as many people as possible the opportunity to have a look at the next > generation Linux Desktop. Thus an article is being prepared to explain to > people how they can obtain KDE 4 Alpha 1 packages. A suse livecd already > exists, and packages will be available for Suse, Ubuntu, Debian and OS X, but > we haven't heard from the Fedora community yet. So, as to ensure the article > will be reasonable complete, we'd like to inquire if Fedora will have Alpha 1 > packages available to it's users. I have parallel-installable kdelibs4, kdepimlibs4 and kdebase4 packages which are currently at 3.80.3 (with assorted backported bugfixes) and which I'm planning to upgrade to alpha 1 as soon as it's out. However, my packages are primarily targeted at developers, not as a sneak preview for users like the SuSE KDE 4 Live CD. So the focus so far has been safe parallel-installability with KDE 3 (so a developer can work on KDE 3 and target KDE 4), not full module coverage. I think that for Fedora 8, we will want KDE 4 packaged differently, with KDE 4 as default, all KDE 4 modules packaged and compat-kdelibs3 (and probably compat-kdebase3 with a subset of the current KDE 3 kdebase, e.g. the KControl modules which are needed by some applications) to run programs which haven't been ported yet. (Hopefully we won't need more compat-kde*3 stuff.) But we have all been busy with the TODO list for the Fedora 7 release, so we didn't have time to discuss this, and thus it's just my personal plan. Of course, packaging for Fedora 8 will not start before Fedora 7 is out, which is 3 weeks from now if things go well. So I don't know of anyone working on KDE 4 packages like this. I'm sorry, but I'm not personally going to work on any KDE-4-as-default packages nor on any KDE 4 modules beyond the basic development platform (kdebase4 + dependencies) before Rawhide opens for Fedora 8 at the earliest. I'm already way too busy. IMHO, alpha 1 is too early for use as a default desktop for end users anyway. If you want to run (or develop) individual KDE 4 apps on a KDE 3 desktop, my packages are enough (I haven't packaged any such app yet though, and I probably won't have the time to package any any time soon); for replacing KDE 3 altogether, it's IMHO too early, Fedora 8 is the target I suggest there (but I may even be overruled and the target set to Fedora 9 instead, we haven't had a chance to discuss this yet; it will also depend on the Fedora 8 schedule which AFAIK is not decided yet).</blockquote><div> It sounds like I can mention Fedora only has the base packages, mostly aimed at developers. Can you point me to a location I can link to where users can get these packages (or instructions how to get them)? thanx in advance Jos </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com">fedora-devel-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list</a> </blockquote> </div>