2008/1/14, Andrew Farris <<a href="mailto:lordmorgul@gmail.com">lordmorgul@gmail.com</a>>:<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 11:05:32PM -0800, Andrew Farris wrote: >> Uhm, yeah you're right. But it will help those who actually use the >> distribution rather than toss it aside based off bad information they got >> from someone else. There is certainly time and place to consider user >> first impressions, but I hardly think its a good idea to filter an idea >> like the above by ONLY that consideration. > > I dunno. It seems like optimizing for startup time seems a misguided if > that's your goal. Starting stuff is a very low percentage of actual use, > especially with suspend/hibernate. I'm aware its fairly low usage time, and not suggesting that any startup optimization options be made at the cost of others (quite the opposite...). What I was suggesting was that cached or otherwise optimized startup times are nicer than slow ones, and it would not be wasted effort if some improvements were made there. I like OSX's performance in that way alot. So I wouldn't call it misguided, just lower priority. It sounds like you would agree with me that no start time optimizations should have detrimental impact on performance the rest of the time though. I would not want startup performance caching to be going on while I'm trying to play a game for instance. -- Andrew Farris <<a href="mailto:lordmorgul@gmail.com">lordmorgul@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:ajfarris@gmail.com">ajfarris@gmail.com</a>> gpg 0xC99B1DF3 fingerprint CDEC 6FAD BA27 40DF 707E A2E0 F0F6 E622 C99B 1DF3 No one now has, and no one will ever again get, the big picture. - Daniel Geer ---- ---- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list <a href="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com"> fedora-devel-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list</a> </blockquote></div> Disabling unused services is the first step :> . But hey, there's no second step :> . We should just make something with Fedora to make it load and work faster... -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <a href="http://liviopl.jogger.pl/"> http://liviopl.jogger.pl/</a>