<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10 From: Ralf Corsepius <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rc040203@freenet.de"><rc040203@freenet.de></a> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fedora-devel-list@redhat.com"><fedora-devel-list@redhat.com></a> Date: 04/23/2008 07:24 PM <blockquote cite="mid:1208996695.2861.34.camel@beck.corsepiu.local" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Everybody being confronted with programs he can't run. "must be root" .. "insufficent privileges to ..." Is this any better than what Fedora has now? </pre> </blockquote> mount is available to non-root users. It's *no different* than what Fedora has now. Fedora is *limited* by not having /sbin and /usr/sbin available by default. <blockquote cite="mid:1208996695.2861.34.camel@beck.corsepiu.local" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Why would you care if you have one extra program in your PATH? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">I do not care about extra programs in $PATH - I do care about having programs which are NOT RUNABLE by users and which are not USEFUL for ordinary users in $PATH. </pre> </blockquote> Take note as "care" is the key word here. You would rather lose functionality over a meaningless feeling. How is having lsusb in your PATH going to ruin your life? Yes, lsusb is very useful to non-root users. How is having httpd in your PATH going to ruin your life? Yes, because it is going to hurt your feelings. I'm sorry. Why are your feelings the issue at hand here? <blockquote cite="mid:1208996695.2861.34.camel@beck.corsepiu.local" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""></pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Is the world coming to an end? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">Well, there are reasons why things are as they are. Of cause, there are warts, there are arguable details, nevertheless there are reasons for why things are, as they are. </pre> </blockquote> No one can explain it other than "just because" and people's personal feelings. <blockquote cite="mid:1208996695.2861.34.camel@beck.corsepiu.local" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Do you really think you are the first people to discuss this topic? No, you aren't, this discussion is as old as */sbin exists. </pre> </blockquote> I would sure hope this isn't the first time, but when was the last time it was discussed? I'm not trying to pretend I know it all either. Thanks. </body> </html>