<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=us-ascii" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Jeremy Katz wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20090320173706.GB12402@redhat.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Friday, March 20 2009, Gerry Reno said: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Jesse Keating wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 12:03 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The need to make sure that you update rpm or yum before you do 'yum update' has happened before and I'm sure this isn't the last time that it will happen either. It just makes sense for a packager to see if there is an update to itself first. Update itself and THEN do the updates for everything else. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">That's your opinion. The opinion of the people writing the update tools and preparing the repos and living through such "needs" and really understanding what is actually going on don't share that opinion. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">What is the matter with yum doing something like this? if updated yum or updated rpm is available: if updated yum is available: update yum yum_is_new = true if updated rpm is available: update rpm if yum_is_new: sys.execv("/usr/bin/yum", sys.argv) # replace current process with updated yum </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> New yum may depend on new python, new glibc, etc and thus 'update yum' may essentially be 'update everything' Jeremy </pre> </blockquote> <tt>Ok, understand that. So an update of yum has to be left until the very last moment just before other things that require it. So maybe change the first line to: if found package that requires new yum or rpm and updated yum or updated rpm is available: That way yum wouldn't update yum/rpm unless something actually required the updated yum/rpm. My interest was just to make the process as simple as possible. Regards, Gerry </tt> </body> </html>