<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Adam Miller wrote: <blockquote cite="midf12087800903271453qdd8da97je44a88363c9c77f2@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Also, won't Ctrl+Alt+<Fn> still work to get you to a vt where you can at your choice kill X manually, or try to debug the problem further? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Yes, yes it will. Solid observation :) -Adam </pre> </blockquote> NO! If the X server is in a tight loop sometimes you cannot even get a login prompt at a terminal. The ONLY thing that works is Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. And sometimes you have to issue it a few times and wait but generally it will kill the X server even when you cannot get logged in from a terminal. Regards, Gerry </body> </html>