<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Adam Miller wrote: <blockquote cite="midf12087800903271428y460499ccv60a61aace0c741d9@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">This change to default behavior of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is an example of a tiny minority of Emacs users lobbying xorg for a change that will affect a huge number of community and commercial >users including datacenters and their sys admins. This change needs to be reversed immediately. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is embedded now into many tools including all the virtualization tools. It is >part of the DNA of every sys admin. To change this behavior is just insanity. Regards, Gerry </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Please stop throwing around the "sys admins will freak out" card, I'm a sys admin and we do things correctly through provisioning using kickstarts. It will be maybe a 3 line edit to a script. It was an upstream choice, Fedora has historically remained compliant with upstream so I imagine if you would like a change to be made on this topic it would be most effective to discuss it with upstream. -Adam </pre> </blockquote> I intend to discuss it with upstream. But this is a huge change to default behavior for X control that almost NO ONE knows about. The default methods of controlling the X server have been around for decades and many users and sys admins automatically know what the default behavior is that can be counted on in almost all situations and therefore this constitutes a big change. And big changes like this need to be advertised extensively instead of just quietly slipped in. I was hoping that Fedora might take the lead on stopping this bad change. And again, yes, I'll take this to upstream as well. Regards, Gerry </body> </html>