<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Callum Lerwick wrote: <blockquote cite="mid1238195226.24750.741.camel@localhost.localdomain" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 14:49 -0700, Christopher Aillon wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Also, won't Ctrl+Alt+<Fn> still work to get you to a vt where you can at your choice kill X manually, or try to debug the problem further? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Times when I really need to ctl-alt-bksp are generally times when the console state has been completely fucked up so that console switching doesn't work. And the reason I hit ctl-alt-bksp is usually so I can then hit ctl-alt-del to reboot the damned machine. Seriously, how braindead is it to not having *some* reliable way to trigger a reboot without needing a working monitor or network connection? (Or working keymap...) If you're going to kill ctl-alt-bksp, you damn well better enable ctl-alt-del while X is running. (Why was THAT ever disabled in the first place?) </pre> </blockquote> <tt>lobbying by the same tiny minority. Regards, Gerry </tt> </body> </html>