<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Callum Lerwick <<a href="mailto:seg@haxxed.com">seg@haxxed.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> And once again you go on and on about "modern" and "these days", and are completely dismissive of "Right now" and "Yesterday". No one but you cares. End users want what they use now and have owned for years, to work and continue to work. I have a Vortex 2 sound card. It's *ten* years old now. It's PCI. It outputs four channels of 16-bit output. It's output quality is excellent. It has an optical output. It can mix and resample something like 32 channels *in hardware*. It has hardware 10-band digital EQ. And of course it can do HRTF in hardware but there's little chance of that ever getting supported at this point. :P (Do we even do HRTF in Fedora with "todays" MMX and SSE? No.) It's drivers are rock stable, and have been for years. Which is more than I can say for snd_intel8x0... Sound is an area where a ten year old card still matches or exceeds anything you end up with today. Sound is not a constant upgrade treadmill. Stop treating it like one. </blockquote><div> +1 </div></div> -- <a href="http://projecthuh.com">projecthuh.com</a> All of my bits are free, are yours? Fedoraproject.org