<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> On 05/07/2009 09:30 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:604aa7910905071430i38452a0dk9195f098b28f5302@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">2009/5/7 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johannbg@hi.is"><johannbg@hi.is></a>: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Agreed But... Given the experience from maintainers that give change log entries like "Update to" "Upstream release" etc.. which leave's testers with ? I'm not seeing those maintainers being able to fill in what to specifically check or test ( Good change log entries usually gives us a good hint what to look for or test ) </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> zeroth order.. i just need an easy way to know what is and what is not currently installed that is from testing and thus could use some love. first order..i need a todo list tool that is going to nag me about testing stuff that has been installed for a few days. Something that is going to sit in my desktop panel and nag the hell out of me to drop a comment in the update system. Like show my five salient annoucement texts for testing crap I have installed and challenge me to write a comment out of that group of 5..every day.. </pre> </blockquote> Hum so for all the 1100+ packages that come with the default ( dvd ) install hum mentioning the dvd is not really far so I shall just mention the 182 updates waiting! You want a notification that nags you all day long.. Something like "You just installed 182 updates and have yet not provided feed back for any of them!" End user provides 1 feed back for one component ) Receives a colorful rainbow "Thank you" 5 minutes later.. "You just installed 182 updates and have provided a feed back for 1 of them! This is your friendly reminder that you still have not yet providing feedback for 181 components " End user spents the whole day providing feed back, all the time thinking I must make this notification STOP Obey the notification, obey the notification is all that he can think of.. Through bloods sweat and tears he manages to go through all the updates/components and provide feed back finally the notification stop and he goes to sleep with a piece of mind.. The following morning... "You got 344 updates pending!" I say good for you :) Hey while were at it why don't we let the notification come from a paper clip or a puppy or a white pony on a rainbow.. For me no thanks! :) JBG <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Viking-Ice One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross You do the math! </pre> </body> </html>