Initially I was also thinking of producing a larger image to include more packages but after reading Colin's view I also thinking that instead of creating a large image with all pre-installed stuff, a large image with an internal repository can be created. It will reduce the user's need of accessing external repository without having a lot of stuff installed which a new user might find confusing and cluttered. It will leave the basic "try before use" feature of the live cd will remain as it is. <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Paul W. Frields <<a href="mailto:stickster@gmail.com">stickster@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im"> </div>To clarify, what I was talking about was the fact that the Installation DVD is really just a continuation of what has shipped since time immemorial in Red Hat Linux many years ago. It doesn't have any particular target. At the same time, our Live CDs are highly constrained by a combination of (1) the 700 MB limit, and (2) our desire -- a worthy one, IMHO -- to keep them usable in as many languages as possible. So whenever we talk about media that includes a bunch of applications that users do really want, but we can't include on a CD-sized medium, we fall back to the DVD, which loses much of the appeal of the Live image. I think the Desktop SIG has already been discussing the need for a larger image due to constantly having to bump out useful applications to stay under the CD size limit. At the same time, the Installation DVD does provide a helpful testing bed for Anaconda. Mainly, I was just interested in the idea of existing SIGs feeling empowered to produce their Live spins for larger media, rather than everyone needing more applications having to fall back to the Installation DVD. I'm not sure what an equally untargeted generic Live spin really achieves, but at the same time, if there are contributors interested in producing one, our spin process certainly permits it. -- Paul W. Frields <a href="http://paul.frields.org/" target="_blank">http://paul.frields.org/</a> gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 <a href="http://redhat.com/" target="_blank">http://redhat.com/</a> - - - - <a href="http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/" target="_blank">http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/</a> <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a>: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com">Fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list</a> </blockquote></div> -- Aditya Patawari Join Live DVD SIG : <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/LiveDVD">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/LiveDVD</a> <a href="http://blog.adityapatawari.com/">http://blog.adityapatawari.com/</a> <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania</a> India