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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sounds like the box is asleep….if the i/o
is 2% this suggests nothing is getting to the box…..not being a LDAP expert,
but if that was a “straight” database like Oracle or MYSQL I’d think that the
problem was external to the LDAP server….if the indexing was bad, I’d expect
high disk i/o as a result/indicator….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Be interesting to see if indexing does a
thing….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Steven Jones<br>
Senior  Linux/Unix/San/Vmware System Administrator<br>
APG -Technology Integration Team<br>
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Phone: +64 4 463 6272</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
fedora-directory-users-bounces@redhat.com
[mailto:fedora-directory-users-bounces@redhat.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jared B. Griffith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 14 December 2007
9:15 a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General discussion list for
the Fedora Directory server project.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Fedora-directory-users] LDAP Accounts for large website</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Resources
are fine, and if we really need a 16 way machine this early in the game, then
we should just forgoe all of this and stick it in our regular db that sits on a
16way with 32g of mem and a fiber channel san attached to it.<br>
iostat is fine, 2% usage<br>
CPU is at 0, RAM is not even being used, so of course there is no swap going
on.<br>
<br>
I think we need to do some of this indexing on particular attributes, then
address the possible query issue that we think is happening.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Steven Jones" <Steven.Jones@vuw.ac.nz><br>
To: "General discussion list for the Fedora Directory server
project." <fedora-directory-users@redhat.com><br>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:04:36 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles<br>
Subject: RE: [Fedora-directory-users] LDAP Accounts for large website<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi,</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For applications there are lots of ways to
improve performance….with no information supplied there is no where to start…</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ie, look at your disk i/o…use iostat are
the disks LDAP sits on at 100% utilisation? Even 80% is not good….if so make
bigger raid sets and/or distribute the database over differing raid controllers
and disk sets….get the utilisation down to 30%....</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is you memory full and you are into swapping?
Make sure the issue is not disk i/o bottlenecks….if not add more ram…..make
sure your swap is not exhausted….add more swap until you can get more ram…</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are your switches or routers too slow?
Check their utilisation…..</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>CPU maxed out? Where is it going? On wait?
Check disk i/o….consider dual Quad core machines…..or even 4 way quad core
machines….Dell R900s are seriously grunty boxes, have 16 cores and hold 64gig
of ram cheaply, then attach them to a SAN….</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>regards</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Steven Jones<br>
Senior  Linux/Unix/San/Vmware System Administrator<br>
APG -Technology Integration Team<br>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Victoria</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceName>
of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wellington</st1:place></st1:City><br>
Phone: +64 4 463 6272</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> fedora-directory-users-bounces@redhat.com
[mailto:fedora-directory-users-bounces@redhat.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jared B. Griffith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 14 December 2007
8:37 a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> fedora-directory-users<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Fedora-directory-users]
LDAP Accounts for large website</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I was wondering if anyone here has ever
used LDAP for a website, that will potentially have millions of LDAP accounts.<br>
If so, are you experiencing slow query responses or other issues?<br>
If you were experiencing slow query responses, and were able to rectify the
issue, how did you do this?<br>
We are currently using FDS for our main website for customer accounts.  We
currently have over 52,000 accounts in LDAP and have only been using this for 3
months.  We are now experiencing extreme slow down in query response when
getting customer data into and out of the LDAP servers.<br>
Any help would be greatly appreciated.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
- Thank you,<br>
- Jared B. Griffith<br>
- Farheap Solutions, Inc.<br>
- Lead Systems Administrator<br>
- <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State> IT Department<br>
- Email - jared.griffith@farheap.com<br>
- Phone - 949.417.1500 ext. 266<br>
- Cell Phone - 949.910.6542</span></font><font color=black><span
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-- <br>
- Thank you,<br>
- Jared B. Griffith<br>
- Farheap Solutions, Inc.<br>
- Lead Systems Administrator<br>
- <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State> IT Department<br>
- Email - jared.griffith@farheap.com<br>
- Phone - 949.417.1500 ext. 266<br>
- Cell Phone - 949.910.6542<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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