From nikosx at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 15:02:42 2007 From: nikosx at gmail.com (Nikos Charonitakis) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:02:42 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] =?iso-8859-7?q?Greek_mirros_=EA=E1=E9_yum?= Message-ID: <9366c3f50711020802y6d40f721q575d40db3f4a53c7@mail.gmail.com> ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ?? updates ????? ?? yum ??????? ????????? ???????? ????? ?????????? mirrors. ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ? ???????????? ???? ???? ??????? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???????? ??? ????? ??? ??????? forum ??? ????. ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ? ?????????. ?? bug report ? ??????????? ?? ???? ???????????? ??? ????????? mirrors (?? ntua ???) ?? ????; Nikos From dimitris at michelinakis.gr Fri Nov 2 18:59:33 2007 From: dimitris at michelinakis.gr (Dimitrios Michelinakis) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:59:33 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] Greek mirros =?ISO-8859-7?B?6uHp?= yum In-Reply-To: <9366c3f50711020802y6d40f721q575d40db3f4a53c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9366c3f50711020802y6d40f721q575d40db3f4a53c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071102205933.7927ea38@ekolaptis> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:02:42 +0200 "Nikos Charonitakis" wrote: > ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ?? updates ????? ?? yum > ??????? ????????? ???????? ????? ?????????? mirrors. > ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ? ???????????? ???? > ???? ??????? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???????? ??? ????? ??? ??????? forum > ??? ????. > ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ? ?????????. ?? bug > report ? ??????????? ?? ???? ???????????? ??? ????????? mirrors (?? > ntua ???) > ?? ????; nai exoume genikos megalo provlima, idika otan to "fastestmirrors" ine egatestimeno. den exo katalavi pou ine to provlima, tin teleftea fora pou kitaksa ta ellinika mirror ixan palia ekdosi enos XML arxiou. ti mporoume na kanoume? -- Dimitrios Michelinakis From nikosx at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 20:38:16 2007 From: nikosx at gmail.com (Nikos Charonitakis) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:38:16 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_=5Bfedora-trans-el=5D_back?= =?iso-8859-1?q?up_=F3=E5_=F0=EF=EB=EB=E1=F0=EB=DC_tar?= In-Reply-To: <650128.65582.qm@web58010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <650128.65582.qm@web58010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9366c3f50711031338o5b79ae9dg74e2b6e291f6129f@mail.gmail.com> ???? ????? backup ?? home ~50 GB. ??? ????? ???? ????? rdiff-backup http://arstechnica.com/articles/columns/linux/linux-20060202.ars/2 ??? ??????? tool ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ?? yum install ... ??? ????????????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ????, ???? ??? ????? ext3 ?? ?? gparted. ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ???????? ??? backup ?? ????? ???? filesystem. ??????? ?? faq ???? ?????? ???? http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/FAQ.html ???????? ??????? ???????? ??????????? (?? ????? ??? ??????????) ????? ???????????? ????????... On Nov 3, 2007 11:01 AM, Christodoulos Pantazis wrote: > ????????. > > ??? ????? ?? fwbackups ?? ????? ???? ???? backup ?? ?? /home/xpan folder > ???? ????????? ??????. ?? /home/xpan ????? ??????? 30GB, ???? ?? fwbackups > ??? ???????? ??? ?????? tar ??? 4GB ?????? ? ?????????? ????? FAT32. ??????? > ?????? backup ????????? ??? ?? ????? backup ?? ???????? tar ?????? ? ??? ?? > /home ???? ????? ????????; > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-trans-el mailing list > Fedora-trans-el at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-el > > From dimitris at michelinakis.gr Mon Nov 5 07:10:19 2007 From: dimitris at michelinakis.gr (Dimitrios Michelinakis) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:10:19 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] Greek mirros =?ISO-8859-7?B?6uHp?= yum In-Reply-To: <7486539b0711042125pfdf3b98g9f60e51aa6e1aa99@mail.gmail.com> References: <9366c3f50711020802y6d40f721q575d40db3f4a53c7@mail.gmail.com> <20071102205933.7927ea38@ekolaptis> <7486539b0711042125pfdf3b98g9f60e51aa6e1aa99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071105091019.57c9dccd@ekolaptis> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:25:54 +0200 "Yannis - Pastis Glaros" wrote: > ??? ???????????? ????? ??? yum clean all ????????? ?? ???????? ??? ????, > ???? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??? ???????... > ???? ??? ??????? ??? ?? 8 ?? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ???? ?????? ????????... edo den to diorthoni, apla den exi kanena apotelesma. otan simveni, paratirisa pos ena XML arxio exi provlima. Afto to xml sta ellinika mirrors ine "palio" kai den teriazi me to "telefteo", to yum fenete na tsekari afto to XML me MD5. mipos ta ellinika mirrors den kanoun update arketa sixna? -- Dimitrios Michelinakis From dimitris.kalamaras at compupress.gr Tue Nov 6 13:28:03 2007 From: dimitris.kalamaras at compupress.gr (Dimitris Kalamaras) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:28:03 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] Fedora 8 rc3 In-Reply-To: <1192797244.5381.16.camel@dimitris-desktop> References: <4717B138.5000503@sch.gr> <20071019083611.074bd23d@ekolaptis> <47189C1A.3040904@sch.gr> <1192797244.5381.16.camel@dimitris-desktop> Message-ID: <1194355683.6120.56.camel@dimitris-desktop> ????????? ?? ?????! ????? ????????? ??? rc3; ?????????? ??? ?? ????? ???? ?? ?? ?????? Werewolf. ?? ???????? (DVD ??????) ?? torrent ??? ?? torrent.fedora. ?????? ?? SHA1SUM ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?????? ??? SHA1SUM ?????? ??? torrent. ???????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ??? ??????????? ?? ??? ASUS laptop ?? nVidia 8600GS, ??? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ??? release, ???? ???! ? ??????? ???? ???? Vista (not mine, I swear!), ??? 3 ??????????? ?? Ubuntu 7.10, Mandriva 2008, openSUSE 10.3 ????? ??? ?????? GB ??????? free space. ??? laptop ????, ??????, ??????? ?????????????? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ?????? ????????. ?????, ??? ???? ??????? ??? ?? DVD ???? ??? ?? anaconda ??? ????? ??... ???? ????? ??????????, ???? ?????? ??? ?? anaconda ?? ?????????????? ?? free space, ????????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ???????? ?? ????????????? ?? swap (????????: ???? ??? swap ???????????). ??? ???? ????? reboot ?????? ??? ???????? ?? ??????????. :( ??? ??????? ??????????, ??????? ??? ??? ??? ext3 / partition 15GB ??? ????? (???? ???? ????). ?? ???????, ?????????, ???? ??? ???? ??????. ???? ?? reboot, ???? ?? ?? ?????? ??? Anaconda ??? ?????????? ?????? ???, ?????? ?? maintenance mode ????? ??? ???????? ?? ??????????? ??????. ???? ????? ??????????, ??? "??, ?? ?? ???????? ??? - ????? ????? ?????? ?? partitions". ????? ???????? ??? ?? Anaconda ?? ?????, ???? ??? Linuxo??????????? ??? ??????????? ????? ???? ??? 20GB + 1 swap 1GB. ?? ?????: ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? /media/sda6 ??? mount point ??? /dev/sda6, ?? anaconda ?? ???????, ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??????? ?? /dev/sda6 ?? ???? ????? /dev/sda5 ??? ???? ??? ???? /dev/sda5 ?? ???? ???? mount point /media/sda6. ????????, ?? ???????? ??????????? ?? ????? ?????? mount points, ?.? test1, test2. T????, ??????? ??? 2 ??????? ??????????? ??? (/ ??? swap) ??? ????????? ???? ???????????. ???? ?? reboot, ??????? ?? ???????? X ??? ?? anaconda (??????????? ? ?????? ????? ??? X ?? ?? ???????) ???? ????? ????. ??? ????????? ?????? (????? ??? ?? ???????) ??? ??????????? ??? ?? anaconda ??? ?? ????????? ? ???????????. ??? ??? ???????, ???????? ???? ??? ????????? ????. ???? ??? ???? "????? ???? ??? Linux ??????????? ??? ???? ??? ???" ??????????? ??? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ?? ????? partitions ???. ??? ????? ? ??????????? (=????????? ???????) ?????. ??? ????? ??? ?? volume groups ???? ?? reboot. ????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ??? ?? ???????? ?? anaconda ??? ?? ????????? ?? post-install. ???? ???? ????????? ??? ????? ??? X ?? ?? ????-????? ?????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ????????? (??? ?????? ????????), ???? ??????? ? anaconda. ?? ??? ???????. ???? ?? ???????? ??? Live CD ??????, ????? ??? ????? ???... "????? ???????", ?? ??? ?????, "???? ????? ???????? ?? ?? ??? ?????" - ????? ?? ??????? ???? ??? ???? ??????????? ?????? ??? ?????? ????????. BTW, ?? ??????? ??? ?? anaconda ??? ?????? ?? ????? resize ?? ??????????? NTFS ????? ???? ??????...????????? ??? ????? ??????? ??? Linux, ?? ?? ???? ????; "?? ??? ?? Fedora, ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ??? Partition Magic/Manager ? ?? ?????????? ??? ?? Gparted" ;;; ??????, ??? ????? ?????? ??? ? GRUB ??? ???????? ???????? ??? ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? PC ???; ?????, ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ?????????? ????????????. ????? ??? ??? boot ???????????. ???? ???? ?? ???????-????? ???????? ???????????? ???????????. ????? ????; ????? ???? ??? ????? ?? hardware; ??????? ??????, ???? ??? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ???? ? ????? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ????????? ??? anaconda; ??? ?? ??? ???? ???? (Back) ?? ???? ???? ??????? (Forward;). ??? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ???? / ??????? ? ??????????? / ??????? ? ???? ??????; ??: ?????? ?? ?? ??????? ?????? screencasts ??? Werewolf ??? ????????; ????????? ?? ???? ???? (???????? ??? ??? ??????????? ????). ???? ?????? ???????? (?????????, ???) ? ??? ???????. ?? Fedora ????????? ?? Istanbul, ?????; ??????, --?? From glynos at storm.cs.unipi.gr Tue Nov 6 20:19:27 2007 From: glynos at storm.cs.unipi.gr (d.a.glynos) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:19:27 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Fedora-el-list] Fedora Presentation @ unipi Message-ID: ?????????, ??? ????????? 16/11 ??????????? ?? ??????? ??? ?????????? ?? ???? ?? Fedora Project, ??? ?????????? ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ???. ???????. ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ??????? [1] ??? ??? ????? fedora-el ?? ????? ?? ??????????? ?? Fedora Project (????? ??? ?? ??????? ???? ????????????). ? ?????????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ??? 1 ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??? Q&A. ?? ????; ???????? ?????? [1] ? ??????? :) From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Nov 6 22:37:10 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:37:10 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] Fedora Presentation @ unipi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6d4237680711061437v219d5b4dx9baf2540d98f16d5@mail.gmail.com> On 11/6/07, d.a.glynos wrote: > ?????????, > > ??? ????????? 16/11 ??????????? ?? ??????? ??? ?????????? ?? ???? ?? Fedora > Project, ??? ?????????? ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ???. ???????. > ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ??????? [1] ??? ??? ????? fedora-el ?? ????? ?? > ??????????? ?? Fedora Project (????? ??? ?? ??????? ???? ????????????). > ? ?????????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ??? 1 ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??? Q&A. ????????? ????? (??? ?? ???? ???? ???) ?? ?????????. =) -? From glynos at storm.cs.unipi.gr Tue Nov 6 23:17:06 2007 From: glynos at storm.cs.unipi.gr (d.a.glynos) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 01:17:06 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Fedora-el-list] Fedora Presentation @ unipi Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > On 11/6/07, d.a.glynos wrote: > > ?????????, > > > > ??? ????????? 16/11 ??????????? ?? ??????? ??? ?????????? ?? ???? ?? Fedora > > Project, ??? ?????????? ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ???. ???????. > > ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ??????? [1] ??? ??? ????? fedora-el ?? ????? ?? > > ??????????? ?? Fedora Project (????? ??? ?? ??????? ???? ????????????). > > ? ?????????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ??? 1 ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??? Q&A. > > ????????? ????? (??? ?? ???? ???? ???) ?? ?????????. =) > > -? ???? ?????! ?? ???????????? ???????? ???? ??? 18:00. ???????????? ??????????? ?? ?????? ??? site: http://rainbow.cs.unipi.gr/projects/oss ???????? ??? ??? ??? ?? ????????? ??? ??????? ??? ?? ???????? ?? ??????????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? email ????? ?????? ????? ??? ?? "?????????????????" ?? ????????? ????????????. thanks for the prompt response! ???????? From yatiohi at ideopolis.gr Mon Nov 12 06:34:19 2007 From: yatiohi at ideopolis.gr (Christos trochalakis) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:34:19 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] Re: [fedora-trans-el] from f7 to f8 In-Reply-To: <6d4237680711112208t7fb5a8ecq8a5c19f4a76cad54@mail.gmail.com> References: <4736AE52.1070700@sch.gr> <6d4237680711112208t7fb5a8ecq8a5c19f4a76cad54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11/12/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > On 11/11/07, Chris Pantazis wrote: > > ????????. > > > > ??? ?? /home ?? ???? ??? partition. ????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ??? F8 > > (fresh install)? ??? ?? ??? ???; > > > > ?? FAQ ?????????? ???? ?? yum upgrade ??? ??? ???????? ??????? ?? ?? > > ?????? ?????. > > ???? ??? ????? ???? ????? ???????????? [1] ??? ??? ?????????? > ??????????? [2]. ??????? ???? ????? ?? /home ????????? ????? ??????: > ???????? ??? ?? ???? ???????????? ???????? ??? ?? ??? ????? ??????? > ??? ?????????? ??? ?????????????? ??????????. > ?????? ??? ??????? ?????? ???????? ?? ?? upgrade ???? ??? cd/dvd. ???? ?????? ????? ??? ??????? ?????????????? ?????? ??? ????????? ??? 26%. ????? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ?? ?????? ???? yum. ?? ??? ?????? ???? fresh install ?? ?? ????? home ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ?? ????????: * ?????? ??? f7 ??? 'id' ??? ????????? ??? ??????? ????? ?? uid ?' gid. * ??????? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??? F8, ???? ????????? ?? partition scheme ??????? ?? ????? mount ??? /home ?? ????????? ??? ??? (??????? ??? ?? ?????????!). ???????? ???? ?? ??????? ?? ??? ?? ???????? ?????? ??????? ???. * ???? ????? ???????? ??? Fedora, ???? login ?? root ??? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ?????, ???? uid +gid ?? ?? F7??? ??????? ?? ??? ??????? ???????? home folder. ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? login :) ???? ????! From xpanta at sch.gr Sun Nov 18 09:14:11 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:14:11 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions Message-ID: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> ????????. ????? ??????????? ??? ??? ???? (??????) ?? Fedora 8 i386 ??? ??? ??? ???????? ?????????: 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ????? 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????????? ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; From nikosx at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 01:26:03 2007 From: nikosx at gmail.com (Nikos Charonitakis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:26:03 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> Message-ID: <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, ???) ???? ??. ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? ??? ?????. 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? ???????? ?????????: > > 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? > > 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? > ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager > ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? > > 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? > ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? > ?????? ?? ????? > > 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????????? > ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > From xpanta at sch.gr Mon Nov 19 08:40:36 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:40:36 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????; O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: > 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, ???) ???? ??. > ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? > ??? ?????. > 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. > 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? > > > ???????? ?????????: > >> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? >> >> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? >> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager >> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? >> >> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? >> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? >> ?????? ?? ????? >> >> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????????? >> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-el-list mailing list >> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > From xpanta at sch.gr Mon Nov 19 10:09:54 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:09:54 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> Message-ID: <474160F2.7070804@sch.gr> O/H Chris Pantazis ??????: > ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. > > ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? > ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? > ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? > ????; > ?? ?????????? ??? ??? xterm ??? ??????????? ?? ???? ????????... > > > O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >> 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, ???) >> ???? ??. >> ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? >> ??? ?????. >> 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. >> 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? >> >> >> ???????? ?????????: >> >>> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? >>> >>> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? >>> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager >>> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? >>> >>> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? >>> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? >>> ?????? ?? ????? >>> >>> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????????? >>> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-el-list mailing list >> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list From nikosx at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 12:13:46 2007 From: nikosx at gmail.com (Nikos Charonitakis) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:13:46 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> Message-ID: <9366c3f50711190413n48ab1430oca0b3635ecc6d65b@mail.gmail.com> ???????? ????? ????; ?? ?????? ??? ?? system->admin->language ; ???????? ?? ?????? default language ?? ??????? ??? ?? ???? tool ??? ???? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????. ???????? ????????... On Nov 19, 2007 10:40 AM, Chris Pantazis wrote: > ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. > > ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? > ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? > ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????; > > > > O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: > > > 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, ???) ???? ??. > > ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? > > ??? ?????. > > 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. > > 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? > > > > > > ???????? ?????????: > > > >> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? > >> > >> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? > >> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager > >> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? > >> > >> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? > >> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? > >> ?????? ?? ????? > >> > >> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????????? > >> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-el-list mailing list > >> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-el-list mailing list > > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > From xpanta at sch.gr Tue Nov 20 11:42:25 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:42:25 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <9366c3f50711190413n48ab1430oca0b3635ecc6d65b@mail.gmail.com> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711190413n48ab1430oca0b3635ecc6d65b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4742C821.4010106@sch.gr> ??? ?????? ????. ?????????? ???? ?? ????: 1. ??? Krdc ??? ?? ???? ????????. ???? ????????? ???? remote server ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ctrl-alt-del ??? ????? ?????? 2. ???? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ???? ??? ?????? ?????? ?????. ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? locale, ??????... O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: > ???????? ????? ????; > ?? ?????? ??? ?? system->admin->language ; > ???????? ?? ?????? default language ?? ??????? ??? ?? ???? tool ??? > ???? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????. > ???????? ????????... > > On Nov 19, 2007 10:40 AM, Chris Pantazis wrote: > >> ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. >> >> ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? >> ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? >> ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????; >> >> >> >> O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >> >> >>> 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, ???) ???? ??. >>> ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? >>> ??? ?????. >>> 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. >>> 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? >>> >>> >>> ???????? ?????????: >>> >>> >>>> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? >>>> >>>> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? >>>> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager >>>> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? >>>> >>>> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? >>>> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? >>>> ?????? ?? ????? >>>> >>>> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????????? >>>> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-el-list mailing list >> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >> >> From xpanta at sch.gr Tue Nov 20 11:55:28 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:55:28 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <4742C821.4010106@sch.gr> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711190413n48ab1430oca0b3635ecc6d65b@mail.gmail.com> <4742C821.4010106@sch.gr> Message-ID: <4742CB30.7060703@sch.gr> ?????? ?? ???????. ?????? ??? ???????? ????????????? ???: ??????? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? System->Administration->Keyboard (???????, ??????????, ????????????). ????? ??? restart, ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ????????? Gnome ? ?? ??? ?????? ?? ????????? X. ???? ???????? ?????? ??? ???????, ?????? ?? ctrl+c, ?????? '?' ??? ???? ????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????????? ?? X. ???? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ???????? (???? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? ??????) ???? ??????????? ????????????? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ????? ???????. O/H Chris Pantazis ??????: > ??? ?????? ????. ?????????? ???? ?? ????: > > 1. ??? Krdc ??? ?? ???? ????????. ???? ????????? ???? remote server > ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ctrl-alt-del ??? ????? ?????? > > 2. ???? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ???? ??? ?????? > ?????? ?????. > > ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? locale, ??????... > > > > O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >> ???????? ????? ????; >> ?? ?????? ??? ?? system->admin->language ; >> ???????? ?? ?????? default language ?? ??????? ??? ?? ???? tool ??? >> ???? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????. >> ???????? ????????... >> >> On Nov 19, 2007 10:40 AM, Chris Pantazis wrote: >> >>> ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. >>> >>> ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? >>> ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? >>> ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? >>> ????; >>> >>> >>> >>> O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >>> >>> >>>> 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, >>>> ???) ???? ??. >>>> ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? >>>> ??? ?????. >>>> 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. >>>> 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? >>>> >>>> >>>> ???????? ?????????: >>>> >>>> >>>>> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? >>>>> >>>>> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? >>>>> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager >>>>> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? >>>>> >>>>> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? >>>>> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? >>>>> ?????? ?? ????? >>>>> >>>>> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? >>>>> ????????? >>>>> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Nov 20 19:28:07 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:28:07 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <4742CB30.7060703@sch.gr> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711190413n48ab1430oca0b3635ecc6d65b@mail.gmail.com> <4742C821.4010106@sch.gr> <4742CB30.7060703@sch.gr> Message-ID: <6d4237680711201128h4991b99atcae175961993889a@mail.gmail.com> On 11/20/07, Chris Pantazis wrote: > ?????? ?? ???????. > > ?????? ??? ???????? ????????????? ???: ??????? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? > System->Administration->Keyboard (???????, ??????????, ????????????). > ????? ??? restart, ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ????????? Gnome ? ?? > ??? ?????? ?? ????????? X. ???? ???????? ?????? ??? ???????, ?????? ?? > ctrl+c, ?????? '?' ??? ???? ????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????????? ?? X. > > ???? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ???????? (???? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? > ??????) ???? ??????????? ????????????? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ????? ???????. ??????? ?? ??? ?????? paste ??? ??????? ?? ?? ???????????? ??????? ??? /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?? ??????; :) -? > > > > O/H Chris Pantazis ??????: > > ??? ?????? ????. ?????????? ???? ?? ????: > > > > 1. ??? Krdc ??? ?? ???? ????????. ???? ????????? ???? remote server > > ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ctrl-alt-del ??? ????? ?????? > > > > 2. ???? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ???? ??? ?????? > > ?????? ?????. > > > > ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? locale, ??????... > > > > > > > > O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: > >> ???????? ????? ????; > >> ?? ?????? ??? ?? system->admin->language ; > >> ???????? ?? ?????? default language ?? ??????? ??? ?? ???? tool ??? > >> ???? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????. > >> ???????? ????????... > >> > >> On Nov 19, 2007 10:40 AM, Chris Pantazis wrote: > >> > >>> ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. > >>> > >>> ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? > >>> ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? > >>> ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? > >>> ????; > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: > >>> > >>> > >>>> 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, > >>>> ???) ???? ??. > >>>> ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? > >>>> ??? ?????. > >>>> 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. > >>>> 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ???????? ?????????: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? > >>>>> > >>>>> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? > >>>>> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager > >>>>> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? > >>>>> > >>>>> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? > >>>>> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? > >>>>> ?????? ?? ????? > >>>>> > >>>>> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? > >>>>> ????????? > >>>>> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list > >>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list > >>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Fedora-el-list mailing list > >>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > >>> > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-el-list mailing list > > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > -- -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From xpanta at sch.gr Tue Nov 20 19:32:11 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:32:11 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] F8 questions In-Reply-To: <6d4237680711201128h4991b99atcae175961993889a@mail.gmail.com> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711190413n48ab1430oca0b3635ecc6d65b@mail.gmail.com> <4742C821.4010106@sch.gr> <4742CB30.7060703@sch.gr> <6d4237680711201128h4991b99atcae175961993889a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4743363B.1000305@sch.gr> O/H Dimitris Glezos ??????: > On 11/20/07, Chris Pantazis wrote: > >> ?????? ?? ???????. >> >> ?????? ??? ???????? ????????????? ???: ??????? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? >> System->Administration->Keyboard (???????, ??????????, ????????????). >> ????? ??? restart, ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ????????? Gnome ? ?? >> ??? ?????? ?? ????????? X. ???? ???????? ?????? ??? ???????, ?????? ?? >> ctrl+c, ?????? '?' ??? ???? ????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????????? ?? X. >> >> ???? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ???????? (???? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? >> ??????) ???? ??????????? ????????????? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ????? ???????. >> > > ??????? ?? ??? ?????? paste ??? ??????? ?? ?? ???????????? ??????? ??? > /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?? ??????; :) > > -? > Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbVariant" "intl" EndSection ??? ??? ????: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection > > > > >> >> O/H Chris Pantazis ??????: >> >>> ??? ?????? ????. ?????????? ???? ?? ????: >>> >>> 1. ??? Krdc ??? ?? ???? ????????. ???? ????????? ???? remote server >>> ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ctrl-alt-del ??? ????? ?????? >>> >>> 2. ???? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ???? ??? ?????? >>> ?????? ?????. >>> >>> ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? locale, ??????... >>> >>> >>> >>> O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >>> >>>> ???????? ????? ????; >>>> ?? ?????? ??? ?? system->admin->language ; >>>> ???????? ?? ?????? default language ?? ??????? ??? ?? ???? tool ??? >>>> ???? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????. >>>> ???????? ????????... >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2007 10:40 AM, Chris Pantazis wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. >>>>> >>>>> ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? >>>>> ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? >>>>> ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? >>>>> ????; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, >>>>>> ???) ???? ??. >>>>>> ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ???? >>>>>> ??? ?????. >>>>>> 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. >>>>>> 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ???????? ?????????: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? >>>>>>> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme manager >>>>>>> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? >>>>>>> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? >>>>>>> ?????? ?? ????? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? >>>>>>> ????????? >>>>>>> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-el-list mailing list >> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >> >> > > > From xpanta at sch.gr Thu Nov 22 10:08:04 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:08:04 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] =?utf-8?b?z4DPgc6/zrLOu86uzrzOsc+EzrEgzrzOtSA=?= =?utf-8?b?z4TOt869IM61zrvOu863zr3Ouc66zq4gzrTOuc6sz4TOsc6+zrcgKHdhczog?= =?utf-8?q?F8_questions=29?= In-Reply-To: <4743363B.1000305@sch.gr> References: <47400263.4020500@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711181726u2cc0aeddy8e9e2ebee1a2ddf2@mail.gmail.com> <47414C04.2030104@sch.gr> <9366c3f50711190413n48ab1430oca0b3635ecc6d65b@mail.gmail.com> <4742C821.4010106@sch.gr> <4742CB30.7060703@sch.gr> <6d4237680711201128h4991b99atcae175961993889a@mail.gmail.com> <4743363B.1000305@sch.gr> Message-ID: <47455504.2080302@sch.gr> O/H Chris Pantazis ??????: > O/H Dimitris Glezos ??????: >> On 11/20/07, Chris Pantazis wrote: >> >>> ?????? ?? ???????. >>> >>> ?????? ??? ???????? ????????????? ???: ??????? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? >>> ??? >>> System->Administration->Keyboard (???????, ??????????, ????????????). >>> ????? ??? restart, ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ????????? Gnome >>> ? ?? >>> ??? ?????? ?? ????????? X. ???? ???????? ?????? ??? ???????, ?????? ?? >>> ctrl+c, ?????? '?' ??? ???? ????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????????? ?? X. >>> >>> ???? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ???????? (???? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? >>> ??????) ???? ??????????? ????????????? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ????? >>> ???????. >>> >> >> ??????? ?? ??? ?????? paste ??? ??????? ?? ?? ???????????? ??????? ??? >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?? ??????; :) >> >> -? >> > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > Option "XkbVariant" "intl" > EndSection > > > ??? ??? ????: > > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "single head configuration" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? bug ??? Fedora. ? ????? ?????? (??????? ?? ??? ??????? ???) ??? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ??????? ? ???????: "??????? ??? international (with dead keys)" ???? ????????? ??? ????????????? ???? ?? ?? ????????. ??? ???????????? ??????? (??????? ???...) ???? ??? ?? ????? ?? ???? ????????? (????? ??? ?? enter ???????) ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ??? ???????? ???????? ?.?.: ???, ??? ???? ??????? ?? ";" ??? ?? ????????. ???? ?? ????? ??? ??? ????????? ??? ???? ?? ???????? "??????? ???" (???????? ?? ????? without dead keys), ???? ??? ??? ???????? ???????? ? ??????????, ???? ??? ??????? ?? ctrl+c ?????? "?"... ??: ??????????? ?? ????????????? Fedora 8 32bit > > > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>> O/H Chris Pantazis ??????: >>> >>>> ??? ?????? ????. ?????????? ???? ?? ????: >>>> >>>> 1. ??? Krdc ??? ?? ???? ????????. ???? ????????? ???? remote server >>>> ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ctrl-alt-del ??? ????? ?????? >>>> >>>> 2. ???? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ???? ??? ?????? >>>> ?????? ?????. >>>> >>>> ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? locale, ??????... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >>>> >>>>> ???????? ????? ????; >>>>> ?? ?????? ??? ?? system->admin->language ; >>>>> ???????? ?? ?????? default language ?? ??????? ??? ?? ???? tool ??? >>>>> ???? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????. >>>>> ???????? ????????... >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2007 10:40 AM, Chris Pantazis wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ???? ????? ?? (3) ?? ?? ????. >>>>>> >>>>>> ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ???? ??? ???/??? ???? ???????? >>>>>> ????????????? (???? ?????? ?????????) ?????? us+inet/???. ?? ????? >>>>>> ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??????????? ?? ???/???. ????? ?????? ?????? ???? >>>>>> ????; >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> O/H Nikos Charonitakis ??????: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ????????? (flash,java, >>>>>>> ???) ???? ??. >>>>>>> ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? >>>>>>> ?? ???? >>>>>>> ??? ?????. >>>>>>> 2+4) ?? ??? ??? ????? stable ??????. >>>>>>> 3) ??? ?? ????? ?? ????? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ???????? ?????????: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? 64bit ?????? (??? 64????? AMD)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. ??? ???????????? ?? compiz-fusion ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? >>>>>>>> ???? >>>>>>>> ?????? ??? ?? emerald themes. ?? ????? ??? ??? emerald theme >>>>>>>> manager >>>>>>>> ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. ???? ????? ctrol+c (? ??????????? ???? ???????) ???? ??????? >>>>>>>> ??????????? ?? ?????????? ???????? (?.?. '?') ??? ??? ????? >>>>>>>> ???? ??? >>>>>>>> ?????? ?? ????? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. ? firefox ???????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ?? ??? ???? >>>>>>>> ????????? >>>>>>>> ????????, ????????? ?????? ? ???? ?? ????; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>>>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-el-list mailing list >>> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >>> >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list From dimitris at glezos.com Fri Nov 23 00:32:35 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:32:35 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] =?utf-8?b?zqDOsc+Bzr/Phc+Dzq/Osc+Dzrcgz4PPhM6/?= =?utf-8?b?IM6gzrHOvS4gzqDOtc65z4HOsc65zqw=?= Message-ID: <6d4237680711221632k4ef957a6t421757e0931e36bd@mail.gmail.com> ??? ????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ???? ????, ????? ?? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? Fedora ??? ???????? ??????? (???????????, Transifex, ???) ??? ???. ???????. ???????????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ??? http://dimitris.glezos.com/weblog/2007/11/23/presentations/. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From xpanta at sch.gr Sat Nov 24 19:10:56 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:10:56 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] samba shares Message-ID: <47487740.8020506@sch.gr> ?????????. ????????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? Samba Shares ??? Fedora ?/??? ??? Samba ??????????. ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? ?? home network (?? ??? ???????? HOME ??? ??????????->??????) ????? ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ??? SharedDocs ??? windows (??????????->??????? ???? ???????????) ??? ?? ?? ?? ???????????(!) ??????, ?????????? ?? ???????? 1. ??? ????? ?? ?? ???? ????????????? ?????? ??? windows ????? ??? ?? "??????????? ???????" (SharedDocs) ????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ??????, ??? ??? ??? ?? windows ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? 2. ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? windows ??? linux ??? ???? ????????????? ?????? "???????" ?? ????????????? ???????? "public" ???????? ???? ??? ?? configuration ??? samba: workgroup = HOME server string = Fedora_Public ; netbios name = MYSERVER ; interfaces = lo eth0 192.168.12.2/24 192.168.13.2/24 ; hosts allow = 127. 192.168.12. 192.168.13. security = user passdb backend = tdbsam [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes ; valid users = %S ; valid users = MYDOMAIN\%S # Un-comment the following and create the netlogon directory for Domain Logons ; [netlogon] ; comment = Network Logon Service ; path = /var/lib/samba/netlogon ; guest ok = yes ; writable = no ; share modes = no # Un-comment the following to provide a specific roving profile share # the default is to use the user's home directory ; [Profiles] ; path = /var/lib/samba/profiles ; browseable = no ; guest ok = yes # A publicly accessible directory, but read only, except for people in # the "staff" group ; [public] ; comment = Public Stuff ; path = /home/samba ; public = yes ; writable = yes ; printable = no ; write list = +staff [public] path = /home/xpan/??????? writeable = yes ; browseable = yes guest ok = yes From johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 13:27:48 2007 From: johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com (John T. Margaritopoulos) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:27:48 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] epiphany bookmark synchronization Message-ID: <47497854.9060105@yahoo.com> ?????????, ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ??? epiphany browser, ???? ??? ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??? firefox. ?? ???????? ????? ???? ??????????? ??? bookmarks, ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ???????????. ???????? ?? epilicious extension, ???? ??? ????????? ????. ? ?? ??????? ? ??? ?? ???????????. ??????? ??????? ???????????? ??????? ?????????, ??????? -- Dr. John T. Margaritopoulos Dimarchou Georgiadou 289, 38222 Volos, Magnesia, Greece email: johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com From nikosx at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 20:53:18 2007 From: nikosx at gmail.com (Nikos Charonitakis) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:53:18 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] epiphany bookmark synchronization In-Reply-To: <47497854.9060105@yahoo.com> References: <47497854.9060105@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9366c3f50711251253m505f27d5g144af9c0b002efc0@mail.gmail.com> ??? ???????? ????: ??????? ?? ?????? bookmarks.rdf create a epiphany bookmarks file by exporting your bookmarks (-> bookmarks.rdf) import this file ???? epiphany ???? ???? pc. ???????????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ?? Gnome online desktop: http://www.charnik.net/blog/?p=10 ?????????? ??? ??? online desktop ??? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ???. ??? ????? ???? ?? ??????????. ????? On Nov 25, 2007 3:27 PM, John T. Margaritopoulos wrote: > ?????????, > > ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ??? epiphany browser, ???? ??? ???????? ??? > ???????? ??? ??? firefox. ?? ???????? ????? ???? ??????????? ??? > bookmarks, ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ???????????. > > ???????? ?? epilicious extension, ???? ??? ????????? ????. ? ?? ??????? > ? ??? ?? ???????????. ??????? ??????? ???????????? ??????? > > ?????????, > > ??????? > -- > > Dr. John T. Margaritopoulos > Dimarchou Georgiadou 289, > 38222 Volos, Magnesia, Greece > email: johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Nov 26 10:28:33 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:28:33 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] samba shares In-Reply-To: <47487740.8020506@sch.gr> References: <47487740.8020506@sch.gr> Message-ID: <6d4237680711260228n486f4d15g4c0374fb1ba779b8@mail.gmail.com> On 11/24/07, Chris Pantazis wrote: > ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? ?? home network (?? ??? ???????? HOME ??? > ??????????->??????) ????? ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ??? SharedDocs ??? > windows (??????????->??????? ???? ???????????) ??? ?? ?? ?? ???????????(!) ???? ?????? ????????????? ?? ????????????? ?????? ??? ?? Windows -> Windows ?????????. ??. ?? ????????? ?? ??????????? ??? ??? `\\192.168.1.X\Foo\` ?????????. > ??????, ?????????? ?? ???????? > > 1. ??? ????? ?? ?? ???? ????????????? ?????? ??? windows ????? ??? ?? > "??????????? ???????" (SharedDocs) ????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? > ??????, ??? ??? ??? ?? windows ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??? > ???????? ??? ??????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?? W->W, ?? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ?? ????? ??? Linux. ???? ??? ????? ??? SMB howto ?? ????????, ???? ??????? ? ??? ???? ????? ??? ?????????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??? ?????. :) -? > 2. ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? windows ??? linux ??? ???? ????????????? > ?????? "???????" ?? ????????????? ???????? "public" > > ???????? ???? ??? ?? configuration ??? samba: > > workgroup = HOME > server string = Fedora_Public > ; netbios name = MYSERVER > ; interfaces = lo eth0 192.168.12.2/24 192.168.13.2/24 > ; hosts allow = 127. 192.168.12. 192.168.13. > security = user > passdb backend = tdbsam > [homes] > comment = Home Directories > browseable = no > writable = yes > ; valid users = %S > ; valid users = MYDOMAIN\%S > # Un-comment the following and create the netlogon directory for Domain > Logons > ; [netlogon] > ; comment = Network Logon Service > ; path = /var/lib/samba/netlogon > ; guest ok = yes > ; writable = no > ; share modes = no > > > # Un-comment the following to provide a specific roving profile share > # the default is to use the user's home directory > ; [Profiles] > ; path = /var/lib/samba/profiles > ; browseable = no > ; guest ok = yes > > > # A publicly accessible directory, but read only, except for people in > # the "staff" group > ; [public] > ; comment = Public Stuff > ; path = /home/samba > ; public = yes > ; writable = yes > ; printable = no > ; write list = +staff > > [public] > path = /home/xpan/??????? > writeable = yes > ; browseable = yes > guest ok = yes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-el-list mailing list > Fedora-el-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list > -- -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From dimitris at michelinakis.gr Mon Nov 26 10:46:46 2007 From: dimitris at michelinakis.gr (Dimitrios Michelinakis) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:46:46 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] samba shares In-Reply-To: <47487740.8020506@sch.gr> References: <47487740.8020506@sch.gr> Message-ID: <20071126124646.747d577d@ekolaptis> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:10:56 +0200 Chris Pantazis wrote: > ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? ?? home network (?? ??? ???????? HOME ??? > ??????????->??????) ????? ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ??? SharedDocs ??? > windows (??????????->??????? ???? ???????????) ??? ?? ?? ?? ???????????(!) malon den doulevi to resolution gia shares i kai o shares browser. Genikos ena share gia na fenete prepi na kani resolve ejarxis o ipologistis (kati san hostname) kai na trexi o "Computer Browser" sta windoze. > 1. ??? ????? ?? ?? ???? ????????????? ?????? ??? windows ????? ??? ?? > "??????????? ???????" (SharedDocs) ????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? > ??????, ??? ??? ??? ?? windows ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??? > ???????? ??? ??????? sosta, ta shared docs exoun access "guest" user, eno otidipote alo ine owned apo to sistima kai tous normal users. > 2. ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? windows ??? linux ??? ???? ????????????? > ?????? "???????" ?? ????????????? ???????? "public" dokimase na prosthesis "public = yes" sto [public] kai "guest account = nobody" sto [global]. -- Dimitrios Michelinakis From johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com Mon Nov 26 22:48:52 2007 From: johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com (John T. Margaritopoulos) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:48:52 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] epiphany bookmark synchronization In-Reply-To: <9366c3f50711251253m505f27d5g144af9c0b002efc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <47497854.9060105@yahoo.com> <9366c3f50711251253m505f27d5g144af9c0b002efc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474B4D54.3050707@yahoo.com> ???? ????????? ??? ??? ????????. Nikos Charonitakis wrote: > ??? ???????? ????: > ??????? ?? ?????? bookmarks.rdf > create a epiphany bookmarks file by exporting your bookmarks (-> bookmarks.rdf) > import this file ???? epiphany ???? ???? pc. > ???? ???????? ??? ??? ??? ????. ?????? ??? extension ?? ???????? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ????????? ????? ??? browser ?????? ???? ??????????? ???? ? ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? bookmarks ??? ??????? ???? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ?????. > ???????????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ?? Gnome online desktop: > http://www.charnik.net/blog/?p=10 > ?????????? ??? ??? online desktop ??? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ????? ?? > ????? ??????? ???. > ??? ????? ???? ?? ??????????. > ?? ?? ???????? ???? ??? ??? ?????. > ????? > > On Nov 25, 2007 3:27 PM, John T. Margaritopoulos > wrote: > >> ?????????, >> >> ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ??? epiphany browser, ???? ??? ???????? ??? >> ???????? ??? ??? firefox. ?? ???????? ????? ???? ??????????? ??? >> bookmarks, ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ???????????. >> >> ???????? ?? epilicious extension, ???? ??? ????????? ????. ? ?? ??????? >> ? ??? ?? ???????????. ??????? ??????? ???????????? ??????? >> >> ?????????, >> >> ??????? >> -- >> >> Dr. John T. Margaritopoulos >> Dimarchou Georgiadou 289, >> 38222 Volos, Magnesia, Greece >> email: johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-el-list mailing list >> Fedora-el-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-el-list >> >> -- Dr. John T. Margaritopoulos Dimarchou Georgiadou 289, 38222 Volos, Magnesia, Greece email: johnmargaritopoulos at yahoo.com From xpanta at sch.gr Mon Nov 26 20:21:10 2007 From: xpanta at sch.gr (Chris Pantazis) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:21:10 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-el-list] samba shares In-Reply-To: <20071126124646.747d577d@ekolaptis> References: <47487740.8020506@sch.gr> <20071126124646.747d577d@ekolaptis> Message-ID: <474B2AB6.60605@sch.gr> O/H Dimitrios Michelinakis ??????: > On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:10:56 +0200 Chris Pantazis wrote: > > >> ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? ?? home network (?? ??? ???????? HOME ??? >> ??????????->??????) ????? ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ??? SharedDocs ??? >> windows (??????????->??????? ???? ???????????) ??? ?? ?? ?? ???????????(!) >> > > malon den doulevi to resolution gia shares i kai o shares browser. Genikos ena share gia na fenete prepi na kani resolve ejarxis o ipologistis (kati san hostname) kai na trexi o "Computer Browser" sta windoze. > > > >> 1. ??? ????? ?? ?? ???? ????????????? ?????? ??? windows ????? ??? ?? >> "??????????? ???????" (SharedDocs) ????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? >> ??????, ??? ??? ??? ?? windows ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??? >> ???????? ??? ??????? >> > > sosta, ta shared docs exoun access "guest" user, eno otidipote alo ine owned apo to sistima kai tous normal users. > > > >> 2. ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? windows ??? linux ??? ???? ????????????? >> ?????? "???????" ?? ????????????? ???????? "public" >> > > dokimase na prosthesis "public = yes" sto [public] kai "guest account = nobody" sto [global]. > > > ?? ????? ??? ?? ???????????? ???? ???? ????????????: ???????? ???????? ?? publics ??? smb.conf [public] public = yes path = /home/xpan/??????? writeable = yes ; browseable = yes [Download] path = /home/xpan/Download writeable = yes ; browseable = yes valid users = xpan ;guest ok = yes ??? ??????? ???????? ????, ???? ?????? ?? GUI ??? ?? samba ??? ?? ?????????? ???? ??? ??? ????? comment-out ?? browseable = yes. ??? ?? ????? ?? ???????????, ?????? ???? ??? ?? ?????... ????? ??????, ???? ???? ??? ?? ??????? ??? public/ ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? (???? ????) ????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????????????? ??? ???? ??? ?? ??????? ??? Download/ ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ??? ?????? Fedora_Dekstop/Guest (???? Fedora_Desktop ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???????). ?? drop down ?? ??? ?????? Guest ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ??????...(????? disabled ??????) ????? ????;