From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 1 00:26:31 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:26:31 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Using Labview 6.1 on Fedora Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0902281626s1fcf6ecdk52167643af9c5956@mail.gmail.com> FYI: Holger, from Munich, pointed to me how he is using FEL and with LabView 6.1 from heise.de. I've given it a try on both F10 and F11-alpha. After the basic sanity checks, I can confirm that it does run but is not compatible with Labview 8.5. http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/labview-61-on-fedora-10-and-fedora-11.html Chitlesh From geleem at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 1 07:05:22 2009 From: geleem at bellsouth.net (g) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:05:22 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Using Labview 6.1 on Fedora In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0902281626s1fcf6ecdk52167643af9c5956@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0902281626s1fcf6ecdk52167643af9c5956@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AA33B2.5040304@bellsouth.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > FYI: > > Holger, from Munich, pointed to me how he is using FEL and with > LabView 6.1 from heise.de. and if you only read english? -- peace out. tc,hago. g . **** in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ **** -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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GG Yes, I believe and assume that you are familiar with gnomGGGGGGGGGGGGG From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 1 09:54:39 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:54:39 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Using Labview 6.1 on Fedora In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0903010137x5dcbf1ebw2ebdba99c25efd10@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0902281626s1fcf6ecdk52167643af9c5956@mail.gmail.com> <49AA33B2.5040304@bellsouth.net> <13dbfe4f0903010137x5dcbf1ebw2ebdba99c25efd10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903010154v319ce03bk15847f42f1012580@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:05 AM, g wrote: >> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >>> FYI: >>> >>> Holger, from Munich, pointed to me how he is using FEL and with >>> LabView 6.1 from heise.de. >> >> and if you only read english? > GG > Yes, I believe and assume that you are familiar with gnomGGGGGGGGGGGGG > What I want to say that it is a bit childish to say that, "g". You know that there are tools such as gnome-translate and google/translate to decrypt non-english website right ? Chitlesh From r.dushyanth at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 10:09:38 2009 From: r.dushyanth at gmail.com (Dhushyanth R) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:39:38 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] how to get FEL while in f10 Message-ID: <84a6e1e90903010209h61845c2coba4d759a6516115d@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone I'd like to try out the new FEL. But i already have an f10 installed on my comp. Through this list i came to know that groupinstall option has been enabled for FEL in f11. Can i download that(if it's stable enough) through YUM. If so how. As i'm a newbie it would be better if i can get detailed instructions if it were possible. I did look at the FEL link but most of it was getting the torrent, etc. but nothing on how to get FEL packages while still being in the common f10 Or should i just individually get the packages downloaded into f10. Even in that case where can i get a list of all the packages that come in the FEL spin regards R Dhushyanth From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 1 10:41:47 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:41:47 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] how to get FEL while in f10 In-Reply-To: <84a6e1e90903010209h61845c2coba4d759a6516115d@mail.gmail.com> References: <84a6e1e90903010209h61845c2coba4d759a6516115d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903010241q2304a1c0j3bae6e8de715812d@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Dhushyanth R wrote: > Or should i just individually get the packages downloaded into f10. > Even in that case where can i get a list of all the packages that come > in the FEL spin Hello you can install all at once with yum: see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-electronic-lab-list/2008-October/msg00002.html chitlesh From geleem at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 1 10:52:58 2009 From: geleem at bellsouth.net (g) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:52:58 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Using Labview 6.1 on Fedora In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0903010154v319ce03bk15847f42f1012580@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0902281626s1fcf6ecdk52167643af9c5956@mail.gmail.com> <49AA33B2.5040304@bellsouth.net> <13dbfe4f0903010137x5dcbf1ebw2ebdba99c25efd10@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0903010154v319ce03bk15847f42f1012580@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AA690A.9090708@bellsouth.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > You know that there are tools such as gnome-translate and > google/translate to decrypt non-english website right ? wrong. i was not aware. i guess that this is one of things i enjoy about this world, learning something new every day. looks like i will now go google for 'google/translate'. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . **** in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ **** -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But its a start. This page shall be made better by adding descriptions to packages, how to group install them etc etc. Comments welcome (Now I am awaiting to see a long review comment from Chitlesh ;). He likes this statement a lot. :)) Regards, Aanjhan From geleem at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 1 13:01:29 2009 From: geleem at bellsouth.net (g) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:01:29 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] how to get FEL while in f10 In-Reply-To: References: <84a6e1e90903010209h61845c2coba4d759a6516115d@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0903010241q2304a1c0j3bae6e8de715812d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AA8729.7060401@bellsouth.net> Aanjhan R wrote: > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/PackageList > Comments welcome for what you have done in this short of time, well done. suggestion, add hotlinks now, color later. :) -- peace out. tc,hago. g . **** in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ **** -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From krustev.svilen at googlemail.com Sun Mar 1 13:35:24 2009 From: krustev.svilen at googlemail.com (Svilen) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:35:24 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Your views on "trac on a Livecd " ? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0902281520y4e8fdeb1y3cd56f0fa50797ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30902210417x5f87451fi6928de04c41957fd@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0902281520y4e8fdeb1y3cd56f0fa50797ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AA8F1C.7000104@googlemail.com> Hi Chitlesh, The idea of course is quite nice, but there are some specifics. Concerning bug/task tracking - there should not be principle troubles here. In other words trac can be used in a trivial way as far as I can see. Concerning the revision control systems ... They are very good with text data. The trouble is that most of the FEL tools deal primarily with binary data (or I'm wrong?). All revision control systems I've seen are more or less helpless with binary data. What I mean is that the incremental diffs are practically unusable there. In the best case the revision control systems allow an external diff to be used for the corresponding file type. Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither of FEL tools offer a tool suitable to be used as an external diff for the binary formats they are dealing with. By the way - the situation is very similar with commercial tools. In result - all binary data used by FEL tools can't be stored incrementally in the databases of any of the revision control systems. Don't get me wrong - this is not a problem of the revision control systems. They will deal with our binary data in the best way they can and it is - to store every single commit as a whole file. Now going in the layout land for example - it will result in a huge database. Not the most elegant solution. It seems that if svn/git are to be used in an example methodology - then the example should be focused on a tools that use text files (well suitable for incremental diffs ) to store their data. If the focus is on trac only - then I can't see a problem. Actually this is quite interesting and uncharted area for layout formats. The revision control is practically unknown there. I would be quite keen to discuss this separately if there is an interest. Regards Svilen Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > >> There is a video session and presentation on git tutorial by Bart >> Trojanowski which is really good. You can ask him if it can be shipped >> with the DVD? He gave me permission to re-use his presentation under >> CC with attribution: >> >> http://excess.org/article/2008/07/ogre-git-tutorial/ >> > > Hello Shakthi, > > I think you got me wrong here. I was not really thinking about > - how to use git/trac/svn as individual software > but rather > how a combination of all these 3 could be used by CAD engineers to > automate their internal home based methodologies through a ticketing > service. > > As you can see, it would rather be giving people the chance to enhance > their existing design methodologies or platform for hardware > development. > > Example: > - A university can try (as in trial) this ticketing service + version > control and decide to expand their course to a long distance teaching > method. > - 2/3 people scattered around the world but have the same idea, they > will be introduced with FEL of such mechanism which allows them to > collaborate irrespective of their timezone. > > To sum up, these are ways to improve hardware development with opensource tools. > > Kind regards, > Chitlesh > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-electronic-lab-list mailing list > Fedora-electronic-lab-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-electronic-lab-list > From krustev.svilen at googlemail.com Sun Mar 1 13:41:09 2009 From: krustev.svilen at googlemail.com (Svilen) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:41:09 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] FEL 1-page handout for talks/FOSS conferences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49AA9075.5060005@googlemail.com> Hi Aanjhan, Congrats for the effort. Good job! There will be corrections of course - that's what you're expecting writing "Comments welcome" I guess :) Nevertheless I guess 80% of the job is already done Regards Svilen Aanjhan R wrote: > Hi folks, > > I managed to get my hands dirty with Scribus and come out with a draft > copy of the brochure. > > Blog post: http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2009/02/28/fedora-electronic-lab-brochure-with-scribus/ > > Comments welcome! > > Regards, > Aanjhan > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-electronic-lab-list mailing list > Fedora-electronic-lab-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-electronic-lab-list > From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 1 19:23:10 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:23:10 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Your views on "trac on a Livecd " ? In-Reply-To: <49AA8F1C.7000104@googlemail.com> References: <50baabb30902210417x5f87451fi6928de04c41957fd@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0902281520y4e8fdeb1y3cd56f0fa50797ec@mail.gmail.com> <49AA8F1C.7000104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903011123m4ab39837je423ea2d99ae9141@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Svilen wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither of FEL tools > offer a tool suitable to be used as an external diff for the binary formats > they are dealing with. By the way - the situation is very similar with > commercial tools. In result - all binary data used by FEL tools can't be > stored incrementally in the databases of any of the revision control > systems Hello Svilen, You are partially right here. However for digital design, a revision control for vhdl and verilog is useful, especially if there are many designers. With the perl modules for vhdl and verilog being included for F11, digital designers can expand their home made design flow by using those modules in their own perl scripts. Some perl modules could even be used for co-simulation or co-verification purposes as well. Example, memory based verilog designs powercraft.nl already use svn for geda and pcb based projects : http://www.powercraft.nl/websvn/listing.php?repname=OpenARM+Single-board+Computer&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fworking%2F#_trunk_working_ This is my reason behind this trac/git/svn discussion. Unfortunately this does not apply to each FEL apps. regards, chitlesh From chitlesh at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 22:24:33 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:24:33 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] kde alpha slow Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903011424q53220ed3i51c425d7fa58cf71@mail.gmail.com> Hello KDE Sig It has been reported to me several times this week, that the KDE alpha livecd boots very slowly. I have tried it and confirm under 512mb RAM) that after plymouth it takes more than 30 minutes to get the KDE desktop in place, before the installation could start. The installation takes again another 30 minutes. This concerns me because the FEL Livedvd is KDE based and I use it as a marketing means for FEL apps which are desktop-environment independent. Will we see improvements in this boot time for f11 beta ? My main target is to use FEL Livedvd during a presentation + beamer. If the boot time is so long, KDE here does not meet my needs. I would like to hear your views and insurance about it. Kind regards, chitlesh From krustev.svilen at googlemail.com Sun Mar 1 22:44:18 2009 From: krustev.svilen at googlemail.com (Svilen) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:44:18 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Your views on "trac on a Livecd " ? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0903011123m4ab39837je423ea2d99ae9141@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30902210417x5f87451fi6928de04c41957fd@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0902281520y4e8fdeb1y3cd56f0fa50797ec@mail.gmail.com> <49AA8F1C.7000104@googlemail.com> <13dbfe4f0903011123m4ab39837je423ea2d99ae9141@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AB0FC2.5040502@googlemail.com> Of course there is no troubles with Veriog/VHDL etc. code and revision control and tracking must be used there. No doubt about that. Do you think though it should be any different from the "usual" open source flow? Regards Svilen Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Svilen wrote: > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither of FEL tools >> offer a tool suitable to be used as an external diff for the binary formats >> they are dealing with. By the way - the situation is very similar with >> commercial tools. In result - all binary data used by FEL tools can't be >> stored incrementally in the databases of any of the revision control >> systems >> > > Hello Svilen, > > You are partially right here. However for digital design, a revision > control for vhdl and verilog is useful, especially if there are many > designers. With the perl modules for vhdl and verilog being included > for F11, digital designers can expand their home made design flow by > using those modules in their own perl scripts. Some perl modules could > even be used for co-simulation or co-verification purposes as well. > Example, memory based verilog designs > > powercraft.nl already use svn for geda and pcb based projects : > > http://www.powercraft.nl/websvn/listing.php?repname=OpenARM+Single-board+Computer&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fworking%2F#_trunk_working_ > > This is my reason behind this trac/git/svn discussion. Unfortunately > this does not apply to each FEL apps. > > regards, > chitlesh > From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 1 23:01:20 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:01:20 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Your views on "trac on a Livecd " ? In-Reply-To: <49AB0FC2.5040502@googlemail.com> References: <50baabb30902210417x5f87451fi6928de04c41957fd@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0902281520y4e8fdeb1y3cd56f0fa50797ec@mail.gmail.com> <49AA8F1C.7000104@googlemail.com> <13dbfe4f0903011123m4ab39837je423ea2d99ae9141@mail.gmail.com> <49AB0FC2.5040502@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903011501x1c7a1020l9ce7cffb7686a0d2@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Svilen wrote: > Do you think > though it should be any different from the "usual" open source flow? Well it depends on the user's project needs. Chitlesh From chitlesh at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 12:09:14 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:09:14 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Heads up rawhide users Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903020409s78ecf01by7ca61272b300ced4@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, if you are currently using fedora-development repository and missed one yum update for rpm, yum will fail with for example Error unpacking rpm package 2:libpng-1.2.35-1.fc11.i586 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/libpng.so.3.35.0;49abc855: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch Installing : libpng-devel 2/2 Error unpacking rpm package 2:libpng-devel-1.2.35-1.fc11.i586 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/libpng12-config;49abc855: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch To solve this issue you will need to download rpm and rpm-libs from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=83804 Then do a manual install. This only concerns rawhide users. Thanks for testing chitlesh From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 22:36:26 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:36:26 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Trademark request: Fedora Electronic Lab Message-ID: <50baabb30903021436v1f2864d3w3831490d461d557b@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, For the fourth consecutive fedora releases, I'm requesting Fedora Board the permission to use Fedora trademark and Fedora Logos with respect to the work done behind Fedora Electronic Lab. == About FEL == Fedora Electronic Lab is Fedora's high-end hardware design, simulation and verification platform. It helps users to create chips, pcbs ... Website : http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ Our work done are summarised on this page http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/devel/FEL_devel_timeline.html. Even items for F-12 development cycle are listed. In brief, Fedora Electronic Lab's goals sum up to * Propose a portfolio for hardware _design_ with opensource tools * Propose a portfolio to _simulate_ hardware design with opensource tools * Propose a portfolio for hardware design _verification_ with opensource tools * Provide methodologies to use opensource EDA tools in an efficient way * Promote a community around FEL * Bridge 2 communities - opensource software community and opensource hardware community * help new opensource EDA software developers * Help upstream with the marketing of their tools * Lead the opensource communities to the current semiconductor industry trend * Help lecturers include software under the FEL umbrella in their syllabus - we have already since on fedora marketing and fedora electronic lab mailing list, that some indian lecturers have already done so. The last three FEL releases exceeded our expectations - at least mine -. We are hoping that with F11 we could put the quality barrier even higher and expands our FEL portfolios. If you have any doubts or questions please feel free to reply to this email. Kind regards, Chitlesh From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 02:01:37 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:01:37 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: Trademark request: Fedora Electronic Lab In-Reply-To: <50baabb30903021436v1f2864d3w3831490d461d557b@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30903021436v1f2864d3w3831490d461d557b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090303020137.GG24105@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:36:26PM +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello there, > > For the fourth consecutive fedora releases, I'm requesting Fedora > Board the permission to use Fedora trademark and Fedora Logos with > respect to the work done behind Fedora Electronic Lab. > > == About FEL == > > Fedora Electronic Lab is Fedora's high-end hardware design, simulation > and verification platform. It helps users to create chips, pcbs ... > > Website : http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ > > > > Our work done are summarised on this page > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/devel/FEL_devel_timeline.html. > Even items for F-12 development cycle are listed. > > In brief, Fedora Electronic Lab's goals sum up to > * Propose a portfolio for hardware _design_ with opensource tools > * Propose a portfolio to _simulate_ hardware design with opensource tools > * Propose a portfolio for hardware design _verification_ with opensource tools > * Provide methodologies to use opensource EDA tools in an efficient way > * Promote a community around FEL > * Bridge 2 communities - opensource software community and opensource > hardware community > * help new opensource EDA software developers > * Help upstream with the marketing of their tools > * Lead the opensource communities to the current semiconductor industry trend > * Help lecturers include software under the FEL umbrella in their > syllabus - we have already since on fedora marketing and fedora > electronic lab mailing list, that some indian lecturers have already > done so. > > The last three FEL releases exceeded our expectations - at least mine > -. We are hoping that with F11 we could put the quality barrier even > higher and expands our FEL portfolios. > > If you have any doubts or questions please feel free to reply to this email. Thanks for contacting us Chitlesh -- I've reminded the Spins SIG to give us word on their approval by tomorrow's Board meeting at 1900 UTC, so the Board can take an approval vote at its meeting. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Check your video driver/setup please""" If you will use the "nouveau" driver, you will not experience such error message and use toped normally. kind regards, Chitlesh From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 13:29:24 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:29:24 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: Trademark request: Fedora Electronic Lab In-Reply-To: <20090303020137.GG24105@localhost.localdomain> References: <50baabb30903021436v1f2864d3w3831490d461d557b@mail.gmail.com> <20090303020137.GG24105@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090303132924.GC4824@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:01:37PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:36:26PM +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > For the fourth consecutive fedora releases, I'm requesting Fedora > > Board the permission to use Fedora trademark and Fedora Logos with > > respect to the work done behind Fedora Electronic Lab. [...snip...] > > Thanks for contacting us Chitlesh -- I've reminded the Spins SIG to > give us word on their approval by tomorrow's Board meeting at 1900 > UTC, so the Board can take an approval vote at its meeting. Chitlesh, Sorry to reply to myself, but I did have another thought about this process. Historically I don't think the Board has re-voted on every Spin for every release. I asked the Spins SIG to look at whether the Board really needs to revisit their approval every release: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-spins/2009-March/000476.html What I'd recommend is that unless there are major changes to Spin behavior relative to either the previous release of that Spin or to the standard release of Fedora, the Board's approval can stand for more than one release. The Board would ask the Spins SIG to bring any such changes to our attention for approval by Feature Freeze. 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SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From geleem at bellsouth.net Wed Mar 4 14:53:06 2009 From: geleem at bellsouth.net (g) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:53:06 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] how to login as root at runlevel 5 In-Reply-To: <30d470110903032337n2e89f8eg72a3dfe1cf155cc6@mail.gmail.com> References: <30d470110903032337n2e89f8eg72a3dfe1cf155cc6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AE95D2.1030608@bellsouth.net> K Sandesh Kamath wrote: > I am trying to login as root at runlevel 5 and it throws an error "Unable to > authenticate user". this is because you should not log in as root > Please do tell whether I am following the right method to login as root. login as normal user, open a terminal, cd to /etc/pam.d, su to root. edit /etc/pam.d/gdm, find the line; auth required pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet replace it with; auth required pam_succeed_if.so logout as root close terminal, logout of x as user and login as root. please do not post in html. thank you. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . **** in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ **** -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 19:46:37 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:46:37 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: [systemc-forum] LEGAL:Distributing SystemC In-Reply-To: <396d8f7c0903021004g5a5f7a57i478f2a6a01649815@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0812200433v3ee561a0m9d2b0d0f6ec83076@mail.gmail.com> <494CEF2C.3070709@gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0812200525w63fb5e29n9a124543f7455d01@mail.gmail.com> <396d8f7c0812311134w55905abdlbbf12f13f6301f22@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0901011152k4ac8a72ai2dc55dfcc998f380@mail.gmail.com> <495D9FDD.2010709@gmail.com> <396d8f7c0903021004g5a5f7a57i478f2a6a01649815@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903041146i13e18704xe448f0103d4be28a@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Alireza Haghdoost wrote: > Dear Chitlesh > > I think that about 2-3 month passed from your mail about SyctemC > license problem. I am really interested to know if you success to > satisfy SystemC.org members to modify SystemC license, please keep me > update about your valuable effort for systemC integration. Hello, We didn't have positive feedbacks. All I can do is release a SRPM of SystemC without the source. In that SRPM, you will find the patches and the preparation which would be done if SystemC would be included into Fedora. I'll write a tutorial soon how to use it. I am inviting you to join Fedora Electronic Lab mailing list where I will do the announcement when I have the SRPM ready. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-electronic-lab-list Kind regards, Chitlesh From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 4 20:20:28 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:20:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Your views on "trac on a Livecd " ? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0902281520y4e8fdeb1y3cd56f0fa50797ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30902210417x5f87451fi6928de04c41957fd@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0902281520y4e8fdeb1y3cd56f0fa50797ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903041220h5c33fc28s9157e82e90f7875c@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, We are entering the cold world of Freeze very soon. It seems that it is too late to do such thing with the Livedvd as well in accordance to the SPIN SIG wiki pages, I should not modify any files from any RPM package. Another possibility is to use our http://hosted.fedoraproject.org/fedora-electronic-lab as an example. What do you think ? Yes, it is true those who don't have internet will miss this example. Chitlesh From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 4 21:42:50 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:42:50 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] [RFC] Introducing FEL to prospective students In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903041342l6a6e7e0x82aad9aee8d33495@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > I have the opportunity to present FOSS electronic tools to few > colleges in India, and I would like to use FEL as an example. I would > like to hear from you all on which tools can be demoed. I can address > the same in an hours' time frame. > > I shall pass on this mailing list info to the students, so that they > can correspond for any help, support, or package development that > requires contribution or that they might be interested in. > > Appreciate any inputs in this regard, > > Thanks! Hello Shakthi, This is great news :) May I know when will you conduct that presentation ? As for which tool to demo? I would rather say all of them (thinking of our upstream developers :) ) Maybe what you can do is, make up an imaginary project and talk about the FOSS tools available for this particular project. Then you can go deeper explaining each of the tools (maybe choose one of them for demo) you mentioned and what type of engineers could use them. Then you can make up another imaginary project to include tools that you've missed in the previous example. FYI: I'm writing a TechReport on how I'm using features of FEL11 and geda/gaf to propose a possible EDA solution for post-tapeout of chips. Up till now all we have been proposing is pre-tapeout solutions with FEL. For the last 2 months, my colleagues are running F11(rawhide) in our Testing&Validation unit and using the perl hardware modules of F11, rawhide's gtkwave and geda/gaf to validate 65nm chips. I hope I could finish the TechReport paper in time for you. cheers, Chitlesh From shakthimaan at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 05:16:40 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:46:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] [RFC] Introducing FEL to prospective students In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0903041342l6a6e7e0x82aad9aee8d33495@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0903041342l6a6e7e0x82aad9aee8d33495@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Chitlesh, --- On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: | This is great news :) May I know when will you conduct that presentation ? \-- 1. I'll update them here? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents One workshop is confirmed at Government Engineering College, Barton Hill, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala on Saturday, March 21, 2009. 2. I have a copy of Fedora-10-Livedvd-FEL. I can make copies of the same and distribute. What is the policy on re-printing and using the FEL CD/DVD cover? Printed label helps in *branding* :) 3. I will require a list of TODO activities for FEL, and then we can work out a process to guide interested enthusiasts. --- | As for which tool to demo? I would rather say all of them (thinking of | our upstream developers :) ) \-- Sure. --- | I hope I | could finish the TechReport paper in time for you. \-- Great! That will be helpful. I joined the Fedora Ambassador project as well, since you had asked me about it earlier. Regards, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From davidjohn.in at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 05:59:35 2009 From: davidjohn.in at gmail.com (David John) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:29:35 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: Introducing FEL to, prospective students In-Reply-To: <20090305170012.48DD78E067C@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090305170012.48DD78E067C@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <49B20D47.7080900@gmail.com> Hi Shakthi I will also be presenting at Barton Hill on 21st, but on a different topic. I will bring a full chip plot and also be taped-lid sample for the same chip, students can get an idea of how a finished layout and corresponding sample device will look like. Regards David > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:42:50 +0100 > From: Chitlesh GOORAH > Subject: Re: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] [RFC] Introducing FEL to > prospective students > To: Shakthi Kannan > Cc: fedora-electronic-lab-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <13dbfe4f0903041342l6a6e7e0x82aad9aee8d33495 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have the opportunity to present FOSS electronic tools to few >> colleges in India, and I would like to use FEL as an example. I would >> like to hear from you all on which tools can be demoed. I can address >> the same in an hours' time frame. >> >> I shall pass on this mailing list info to the students, so that they >> can correspond for any help, support, or package development that >> requires contribution or that they might be interested in. >> >> Appreciate any inputs in this regard, >> >> Thanks! >> > > Hello Shakthi, > > This is great news :) May I know when will you conduct that presentation ? > > As for which tool to demo? I would rather say all of them (thinking of > our upstream developers :) ) > > Maybe what you can do is, make up an imaginary project and talk about > the FOSS tools available for this particular project. Then you can go > deeper explaining each of the tools (maybe choose one of them for > demo) you mentioned and what type of engineers could use them. Then > you can make up another imaginary project to include tools that you've > missed in the previous example. > > FYI: I'm writing a TechReport on how I'm using features of FEL11 and > geda/gaf to propose a possible EDA solution for post-tapeout of chips. > Up till now all we have been proposing is pre-tapeout solutions with > FEL. For the last 2 months, my colleagues are running F11(rawhide) in > our Testing&Validation unit and using the perl hardware modules of > F11, rawhide's gtkwave and geda/gaf to validate 65nm chips. I hope I > could finish the TechReport paper in time for you. > > cheers, > Chitlesh > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:46:40 +0530 > From: Shakthi Kannan > Subject: Re: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] [RFC] Introducing FEL to > prospective students > To: Chitlesh GOORAH > Cc: fedora-electronic-lab-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Chitlesh, > > --- On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH > wrote: > | This is great news :) May I know when will you conduct that presentation ? > \-- > > 1. I'll update them here? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > One workshop is confirmed at Government Engineering College, Barton > Hill, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala on Saturday, March 21, 2009. > > 2. I have a copy of Fedora-10-Livedvd-FEL. I can make copies of the > same and distribute. What is the policy on re-printing and using the > FEL CD/DVD cover? Printed label helps in *branding* :) > > 3. I will require a list of TODO activities for FEL, and then we can > work out a process to guide interested enthusiasts. > > --- > | As for which tool to demo? I would rather say all of them (thinking of > | our upstream developers :) ) > \-- > > Sure. > > --- > | I hope I > | could finish the TechReport paper in time for you. > \-- > > Great! That will be helpful. I joined the Fedora Ambassador project as > well, since you had asked me about it earlier. > > Regards, > > SK > > From sailer at sailer.dynip.lugs.ch Sat Mar 7 12:31:43 2009 From: sailer at sailer.dynip.lugs.ch (Thomas Sailer) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:31:43 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: gnucap development snapshot 2009-02-02 In-Reply-To: <200902042344.43623.ad211@freeelectron.net> References: <200902042344.43623.ad211@freeelectron.net> Message-ID: <1236429103.12352.9.camel@unreal.home.sailer.dynip.lugs.ch> I made an initial fedora package of the current gnucap development snapshot that is parallel installable to the existing gnucap-0.35: http://sailer.fedorapeople.org/gnucap36-20090202-1.fc10.src.rpm However, I cannot even get a simple inverter using BSIM3 3.2.4 to work, convergence fails during op. The same spice netlist works with ngspice 17. Does anyone have an example of how to use bsim3 with gnucap? Thanks, Tom From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 11:51:52 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:51:52 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] listed on OpenEDATools web site ? Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903210451w2877a99vb53cff3c55198ad2@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, I came across the OpenEDATools web site [1]. If I got it right, we could create an introduction page there to promote FEL(and its eda tools). If that is possible, it would attract many eyes from both EDA vendors and other companies. They will learn our existence. Can anyone please investigate the pros and cons and whether it is feasible ? Based on your recommendations, I could approach RedHat legal to verify licensing compatibilities. [1] http://www.openedatools.org/ thanks Chitlesh From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 12:02:30 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:02:30 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Review: Position paper concerning the NSF Cyber Infrastructure Workshop Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903210502j2310823cg97d1eaf6a671b367@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, I would need someone to review a Position Paper[1] on FEL. It is only 2 and half pages(without conclusion yet). JefSpaleta will support this paper this wednesday. So tonight I'll have to send it to NSF[2]. JefSpaleta already sent a paper with respect to fedora. The position paper only reflects FEL's side and how it sustains advance research. [1]: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/9 [2]: http://cisoftwaresustainability.iu-pti.org/ thank you, Chitlesh From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Mar 21 12:04:32 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:04:32 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #11: A FEL beat In-Reply-To: <066.b897d268cbd418e60e1dbfe87c3c3a74@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.b897d268cbd418e60e1dbfe87c3c3a74@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.9351c151f2c101a2f124843e2468b150@fedorahosted.org> #11: A FEL beat -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 11 'Leonidas' Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: fixed | Keywords: -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Mar 21 12:31:30 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:30 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #8: Design/Code Review In-Reply-To: <066.a1f005c122c6f8163fa830c67e8abffe@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.a1f005c122c6f8163fa830c67e8abffe@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.5e5a1214a28b809aaeb6672f3477b6c5@fedorahosted.org> #8: Design/Code Review -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: review -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): trac peerreview plugin seems to fit into our existing trac package-set. This package-set includes one location to manage, svn/git repos, tickets and now code review. I've prepared the RPM of this plugin. Though I managed to load the plugin (with the little knowledge I have on servers), I was not able to file a design/code review. Can you anyone try this rpm and give me some feedback ? RPM : http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/RPMS/trac-peerreview- plugin-2.0-1.svn5357.fc10.noarch.rpm SRPM : http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/RPMS/trac-peerreview- plugin-2.0-1.svn5357.fc10.src.rpm -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Mar 21 12:43:41 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:43:41 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #8: Design/Code Review In-Reply-To: <066.a1f005c122c6f8163fa830c67e8abffe@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.a1f005c122c6f8163fa830c67e8abffe@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.2e2478303415aebeda28e9d46853da9c@fedorahosted.org> #8: Design/Code Review -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: review -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): This company provides Code Review facilities. You can read its white paper http://smartbear.com/docs/CodeReviewSocialEffects.pdf Now we have a lot of opensource equivalent around, trac peerreview plugin as example. If we could get this running, we will extend our EDA portfolio as well. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From tnorth at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 21 14:35:53 2009 From: tnorth at fedoraproject.org (Thibault North) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:35:53 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Review: Position paper concerning the NSF Cyber Infrastructure Workshop In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0903210502j2310823cg97d1eaf6a671b367@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0903210502j2310823cg97d1eaf6a671b367@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200903211035.53224.tnorth@fedoraproject.org> Le Saturday, 21. March 2009 08:02:30 am Chitlesh GOORAH, vous avez ?crit?: > Hello there, > > I would need someone to review a Position Paper[1] on FEL. It is only > 2 and half pages(without conclusion yet). >[snap] Hi Chitlesh, I just took a few minutes to read it, and it really looks fine to me. Thanks for the great work on that, and thanks JefSpaleta for supporting it, can't wait for the feedback on it ! Cheers, Thibault From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Mar 21 15:02:38 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:02:38 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #13: perl-Verilog-CodeGen's Tk based GUI should be revisited Message-ID: <066.4f121662eb72edd40e9a235834edf27f@fedorahosted.org> #13: perl-Verilog-CodeGen's Tk based GUI should be revisited ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: verilog, perl | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ perl-Verilog-CodeGen gui.pl (~200lines) is a simple and straightforward GUI to use its perl modules. However this gui.pl was created in 2003 and I've only lined up to the fedora's perl-TK version. I would be nice to have someone revisit the entire gui.pl script and create another gui.pl based on the previous one but under perl-Tk or Tcl/Tk. Would that be feasible for F-12 ? -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 22 12:11:17 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:11:17 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Code/Design Review for design teams Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0903220511p50cfff87o253dbe9552e3a96@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Let me introduce you to another EDA solution that I'm planning to get for F-12 timeframe (yes, not for F-11 timeframe, unless someone helps me :)). Code/Design Review We all(analog, digital and even embedded) at some point need to have our designs or HDL/embedded code reviewed. Let's encourage a team-based flow to our users. My actual preferred solution is via a trac peerreview plugin. Since fedora already have some experience with trac and the latter also encourage a team-based flow, it fits our needs: easy to deploy and troubleshoot. I've opened a ticket here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/8 Can anyone please look at the current industry solutions for such Code/Design Review and where we will stand if ship this plugin ? This trac plugin will also be useful for our upstream developers. thanks, Chitlesh From trac at fedorahosted.org Sun Mar 22 12:13:29 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:13:29 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #8: Design/Code Review In-Reply-To: <066.a1f005c122c6f8163fa830c67e8abffe@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.a1f005c122c6f8163fa830c67e8abffe@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.23d0f7aeacf0c60e0fc1a2589c2369d5@fedorahosted.org> #8: Design/Code Review -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: review -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): After some investigation, this problem is because of versions incompatibilities. I've tried the branch 0.10 of the peerreview plugin and it works as expected. Thus there is no barrier for its inclusion except packaging. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From himanshuladhocus at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 13:09:03 2009 From: himanshuladhocus at gmail.com (himanshu lad) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:09:03 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Need help-- fedora stopped booting Message-ID: <585855830903220609y70215effxf778bc59d4c93e04@mail.gmail.com> Hey guys I tried to reduce boottime by disabling some services. Now the fedora 10 doesn't boot. Please help Openfreak -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnorth at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 22 14:01:37 2009 From: tnorth at fedoraproject.org (Thibault North) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:01:37 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Need help-- fedora stopped booting In-Reply-To: <585855830903220609y70215effxf778bc59d4c93e04@mail.gmail.com> References: <585855830903220609y70215effxf778bc59d4c93e04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200903221001.37804.tnorth@fedoraproject.org> Le Sunday, 22. March 2009 09:09:03 am himanshu lad, vous avez ?crit?: > Hey guys I tried to reduce boottime by disabling some services. > > Now the fedora 10 doesn't boot. Please help > > Openfreak Hi, As FEL is a Fedora distribution, you should ask directly on the user's mailing list, and provide more details, like the services you disabled, etc. What do you mean by "it doesn't boot" ? Is it just that the boot process ends before calling Xorg ? You have certainly at least access to a command line interface. From here, you'll be able to restore your boot sequence. If you are in a hurry, try to ask on irc.freenode.net, #fedora. Kind regards, Thibault North From trac at fedorahosted.org Sun Mar 22 22:21:13 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:21:13 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #9: Position paper concerning the NSF Cyber Infrastructure Workshop In-Reply-To: <066.87b5d05188d1e6864a253cecf82f11f8@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.87b5d05188d1e6864a253cecf82f11f8@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.7334ed54520cb888ba298246d4055e05@fedorahosted.org> #9: Position paper concerning the NSF Cyber Infrastructure Workshop -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Documentation Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: fixed | Keywords: paper -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * status: assigned => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Published : http://cisoftwaresustainability.iu-pti.org/node/41 -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From shakthimaan at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 04:41:57 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:11:57 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] [RFC] Introducing FEL to prospective students In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0903041342l6a6e7e0x82aad9aee8d33495@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Some photos taken during the visit are available at: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album54 FEL interested students are expected to join this list for further discussion. Regards, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 22:46:16 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:46:16 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab-list] Test Day : Nvidia driver >Nouveau Message-ID: <50baabb30903241546y6786a51q38ae86596db9bc52@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, This is only a reminder for those running under nvidia graphics card. Fedora Test engineers will be very interested if you could running some simple test on your machines and report back as noted here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-26 I would appreciate if you can try toped, magic, electric, kicad, ,................... all the GUI apps so that we can get them fixed in time for F-11. Kind regards, Chitlesh PS: F-11 Beta was slipped