From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 3 18:44:08 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:44:08 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #51: chalmers-lava2000 In-Reply-To: <069.011d20e256f8515a8c8833c7e0b876a8@fedorahosted.org> References: <069.011d20e256f8515a8c8833c7e0b876a8@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <078.5bf9f43fd9925948c237d7ae7d448499@fedorahosted.org> #51: chalmers-lava2000 --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: shakthimaan | Owner: shakthimaan* Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 'Constantine' Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Changes (by shakthimaan): * owner: chitlesh => shakthimaan* -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Oct 3 21:13:07 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:13:07 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: Please review your section in FEL-12's release notes In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0909300239s20b6af24y6733c82caade1171@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0909300239s20b6af24y6733c82caade1171@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910031413j32c990c2y5d67b6edd661d3b@mail.gmail.com> Dear Upstream, Fedora Packagers and FEL users, Thank you very much for your input, I have updated the Release Notes accordingly. http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf We are already in deep freeze. The version of EDA tools listed on the above document will be the ones entailed on the FEL-12 Livedvd. New versions of your tools will be available as updates. Cheers, Chitlesh Goorah From trac at fedorahosted.org Sun Oct 4 11:26:32 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:26:32 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #55: package heekscad for mechanical body - useful for openmoko Message-ID: <066.97d03c2fafb8f49e0c22c8e34c62d3c3@fedorahosted.org> #55: package heekscad for mechanical body - useful for openmoko ------------------------+--------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: PCB Layout | Version: devel Keywords: | ------------------------+--------------------------------------------------- Website http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ Dependency : opencascade https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974 -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at gmail.com Mon Oct 5 20:11:27 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:11:27 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] vacation and tasks before general FEL-12 release Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910051311x2343901fga8263dc80ec4715d@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, As from the 14 october, I'll be in Fedora vacation till the 25 of october. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation I won't be able to answer any of your emails during that timeframe. I apologize for any inconvenience that may cause. However, we (FEL team) are ahead in schedule in terms of FEL development cycle compared to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/Schedule Since every Fedora SIG has entered final freeze and F-12 branch has already been created, I would encourage you to try rawhide or the nightly spins. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/electronic-lab/ I would really appreciate if you could help with the testing. === TASKS TO COMPLETE BEFORE RELEASE === Spin * Verify that latest version (which has been built on koji) of electronics-menu, toped, fped, avra and picprog have been tagged for F-12 - TO BE DONE * New website migration ( still pending on Fedora Infrastructure progress on this ) * Test nightly spins - TO BE DONE Marketing materials: * FEL-12 Release announcement - TO BE DONE * Everyone blogs about the features of FEL-12 - TO BE DONE * FEL-12 flyer - done - http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/draft-fedora-electronic-lab-12s-flyer/ * FEL-12 release notes - done - http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf Opened tickets on Fedora hosted: Since these are tasks and requests for enhancements, we will have to deduce a date to migrate those tickets from F-12 milestone to F-13 milestone. kind regards, Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Mon Oct 5 21:05:26 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:05:26 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Fedora Electronic Lab support for openmoko hardware development Message-ID: <50baabb30910051405m71f17d5am4c5b8618609a360c@mail.gmail.com> Hello openmoko developers, As part of our commitment to the opensource hardware community, Fedora Project has a sub project called Fedora Electronic Lab. http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ Fedora Electronic Lab strives to provide a robust platform (based upon solely opensource software) for electronic hardware development platform for everyone. Since most of our users are also interested in opensource hardware such as openmoko, etc. Hence for Fedora-12 release, we have included the trunk version of kicad, openocd, and fped. We hope that you, openmoko developers, can now work out of the box with svn co https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/gta02-core/ cd gta02-core/ make update make sch instead of this time consuming process http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/gta02-core/docs/GETTING-STARTED That said, we sincerely hope that our contribution might help you seduce more contributors easily. We currently have the following list of packages under the Fedora Electronic Lab umbrella for the following architectures (i686,x86_64, PPC and PPC64): http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/list.html If you feel that we still lack tools that are important to the openmoko's development, please do not hesitate to let us know. We also want to hear from you, how we can work together so that we can provide you a proper development platform. Other references: * FEL-12 Release notes : http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf * FEL-12 Flyer : http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/draft-fedora-electronic-lab-12s-flyer/ * Open ticket to track openmoko's support: CentOS-5 and RHEL-5 users can also benefit from the FEL platform (of course for free) via the EPEL repository. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Kind regards, Chitlesh Goorah From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 6 11:58:57 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:58:57 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #54: Help openmoko contributors get a suitable development platform In-Reply-To: <066.8bbd98497772ebd2b29dc059c99747ed@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.8bbd98497772ebd2b29dc059c99747ed@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.370519a9ff027ead7337ca9edcf07088@fedorahosted.org> #54: Help openmoko contributors get a suitable development platform --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: kicad, openmoko --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * cc: wolfgang at qi-hardware.com (added) Comment: Fped being shipped by Fedora. Wolfgang proposes the following * HeeksCAD: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad * links to several NURBS libraries and tools: http://irc.esben- stien.name/mediawiki/index.php/NURBS Heekscad: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/55 -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 6 12:00:05 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:00:05 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #55: package heekscad for mechanical body - useful for openmoko In-Reply-To: <066.97d03c2fafb8f49e0c22c8e34c62d3c3@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.97d03c2fafb8f49e0c22c8e34c62d3c3@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.f78f89ecc5436d3f9d674360754e6988@fedorahosted.org> #55: package heekscad for mechanical body - useful for openmoko -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: PCB Layout | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): It seems that opencascade's license blocks freecad as well. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459125 -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Tue Oct 6 12:02:38 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:02:38 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [gta02-core] Fedora Electronic Lab support for openmoko hardware development In-Reply-To: <20091006112745.GA2812@debian> References: <50baabb30910051405m71f17d5am4c5b8618609a360c@mail.gmail.com> <20091006112745.GA2812@debian> Message-ID: <50baabb30910060502t1fa44554tbdef3cf6dfa44506@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > Chitlesh, > I first need to say that I have left the Fedora camp many years ago, now a > happy Debian user, but still, your work on bringing together those tools > is fantastic I think. > Originally, I was focussing on interoperability among ASIC development tools, which is still missing in other distributions. > HeeksCAD: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad This is a bit tricky due to its dependency on opencascade. OpenCascade was blocked by Fedora Legal as despite the work done by Debian developers is still not "free" compatible as explained on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974 It seems this also affects Freecad. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459125 Possibly they might enter rpmfusion instead: http://rpmfusion.org/ Cheers, Chitlesh From wolfgang at qi-hardware.com Tue Oct 6 11:27:45 2009 From: wolfgang at qi-hardware.com (Wolfgang Spraul) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:27:45 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [gta02-core] Fedora Electronic Lab support for openmoko hardware development In-Reply-To: <50baabb30910051405m71f17d5am4c5b8618609a360c@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30910051405m71f17d5am4c5b8618609a360c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091006112745.GA2812@debian> Chitlesh, I first need to say that I have left the Fedora camp many years ago, now a happy Debian user, but still, your work on bringing together those tools is fantastic I think. > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/list.html > If you feel that we still lack tools that are important to the > openmoko's development, please do not hesitate to let us know. I have 2 links to stuff you might want to consider adding: HeeksCAD: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad links to several NURBS libraries and tools: http://irc.esben-stien.name/mediawiki/index.php/NURBS Best Regards, Wolfgang On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 11:05:26PM +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello openmoko developers, > > As part of our commitment to the opensource hardware community, Fedora > Project has a sub project called Fedora Electronic Lab. > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ > > Fedora Electronic Lab strives to provide a robust platform (based upon > solely opensource software) for electronic hardware development > platform for everyone. Since most of our users are also interested in > opensource hardware such as openmoko, etc. > > Hence for Fedora-12 release, we have included the trunk version of > kicad, openocd, and fped. We hope that you, openmoko developers, can > now work out of the box with > > svn co https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/gta02-core/ > cd gta02-core/ > make update > make sch > > instead of this time consuming process > http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/gta02-core/docs/GETTING-STARTED > > That said, we sincerely hope that our contribution might help you > seduce more contributors easily. We currently have the following list > of packages under the Fedora Electronic Lab umbrella for the following > architectures (i686,x86_64, PPC and PPC64): > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/list.html > > If you feel that we still lack tools that are important to the > openmoko's development, please do not hesitate to let us know. > > We also want to hear from you, how we can work together so that we can > provide you a proper development platform. > > Other references: > * FEL-12 Release notes : > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf > * FEL-12 Flyer : > http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/draft-fedora-electronic-lab-12s-flyer/ > * Open ticket to track openmoko's support: > > CentOS-5 and RHEL-5 users can also benefit from the FEL platform (of > course for free) via the EPEL repository. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL > > Kind regards, > Chitlesh Goorah > > _______________________________________________ > gta02-core mailing list > gta02-core at lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/gta02-core From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 6 13:00:38 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:00:38 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #56: tuned scriptlets in geda-gaf 1.6 spec files for speed Message-ID: <066.b1defc296c1c194ebd9ba0158f8061e0@fedorahosted.org> #56: tuned scriptlets in geda-gaf 1.6 spec files for speed ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: | ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Peter Clifford suggested that geda-gaf 1.6 install can be improved by tuned Fedora's geda-gaf scriptlets. (1 or 2 seconds) For the next fedora geda package update, this will be fixed. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 6 13:10:15 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:10:15 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] EL-5 comps versus FEL collection In-Reply-To: <50baabb30909290238n55551fb8xbc492cf0b8ce49bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30909290238n55551fb8xbc492cf0b8ce49bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910060610j544345a3h7d455a4ed002a9b5@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Thanks to the EPEL-5 repository, CentOS-5, Scientific-Linux-5 and RHEL-5 users can now install EDA packages under the FEL umbrella with: # yum groupinstall 'Electronic Lab' (similar to what fedora users are doing) The list of packages which will be installed are listed on: http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/mini-report-fel-packages-for-epel-5-branch/ Cheers, Chitlesh Goorah From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 6 13:31:58 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:31:58 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #56: tuned scriptlets in geda-gaf 1.6 spec files for speed In-Reply-To: <066.b1defc296c1c194ebd9ba0158f8061e0@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.b1defc296c1c194ebd9ba0158f8061e0@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.c8b4d6a74786e4989a166fbddd332e42@fedorahosted.org> #56: tuned scriptlets in geda-gaf 1.6 spec files for speed -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): Also the following needs to be added to the spec file # Package Self test %check make distcheck A tradeoff needs to be made between the test and the fix for rpmlint warnings. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at gmail.com Tue Oct 6 14:07:37 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:07:37 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] openembedded rpms for Fedora Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910060707q20c965bdvd04aa281a431bf70@mail.gmail.com> Hello Marcin, I have seen you have rpms for Fedora and Centos on http://wiki.openembedded.net/dl/packages/rpm/ I would like to invite you to include them into Fedora directly. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join I can help you with the package reviews and with the packaging process. Let me know whether you are interested :) Cheers, Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From werner at openmoko.org Tue Oct 6 13:29:10 2009 From: werner at openmoko.org (Werner Almesberger) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:29:10 -0300 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [gta02-core] Fedora Electronic Lab support for openmoko hardware development In-Reply-To: <50baabb30910051405m71f17d5am4c5b8618609a360c@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30910051405m71f17d5am4c5b8618609a360c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091006132910.GG3828@almesberger.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hence for Fedora-12 release, we have included the trunk version of > kicad, openocd, and fped. We hope that you, openmoko developers, can > now work out of the box with This is great, thanks a lot ! > instead of this time consuming process > http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/gta02-core/docs/GETTING-STARTED Yes, it's indeed a bit of a death march :) - Werner From wolfgang at qi-hardware.com Tue Oct 6 16:51:06 2009 From: wolfgang at qi-hardware.com (Wolfgang Spraul) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:51:06 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [gta02-core] Fedora Electronic Lab support for openmoko hardware development In-Reply-To: <50baabb30910060502t1fa44554tbdef3cf6dfa44506@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30910051405m71f17d5am4c5b8618609a360c@mail.gmail.com> <20091006112745.GA2812@debian> <50baabb30910060502t1fa44554tbdef3cf6dfa44506@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091006165106.GA2917@debian> Chitlesh, > Originally, I was focussing on interoperability among ASIC development > tools, which is still missing in other distributions. Oh definitely, it's great work you are doing there! I didn't mean my Debian comment in any bad way, more like "unfortunately this is hard for me to try out right now since I only have Debian nearby". > > HeeksCAD: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad > > This is a bit tricky due to its dependency on opencascade. OpenCascade > was blocked by Fedora Legal as despite the work done by Debian Oh, interesting. I wasn't aware of that, will read up a bit... Wolfgang On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 02:02:38PM +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > > Chitlesh, > > I first need to say that I have left the Fedora camp many years ago, now a > > happy Debian user, but still, your work on bringing together those tools > > is fantastic I think. > > > > Originally, I was focussing on interoperability among ASIC development > tools, which is still missing in other distributions. > > > HeeksCAD: http://code.google.com/p/heekscad > > This is a bit tricky due to its dependency on opencascade. OpenCascade > was blocked by Fedora Legal as despite the work done by Debian > developers is still not "free" compatible as explained on > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974 > > It seems this also affects Freecad. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459125 > > Possibly they might enter rpmfusion instead: > http://rpmfusion.org/ > > Cheers, > Chitlesh > > _______________________________________________ > gta02-core mailing list > gta02-core at lists.openmoko.org > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/gta02-core From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 6 21:29:40 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:29:40 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #57: DGC - Digital Gate Compiler Message-ID: <066.6493b793821c6e30366e947a19c144c6@fedorahosted.org> #57: DGC - Digital Gate Compiler --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Keywords: PLA | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Complements espresso and eqntott http://sourceforge.net/projects/dgc/ DGC is a tool for the creation of digital netlists. DGC does an optimization and technology mapping for an abstract description of boolean functions and state machines. Output formats are EDIF, XNF and VHDL. Input formats are KISS, PLA and others. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 6 21:31:24 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:31:24 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #58: package covered Message-ID: <066.331eced2168c950ce3ceba45d89a54e3@fedorahosted.org> #58: package covered --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Keywords: | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- http://sourceforge.net/projects/covered/ Covered is a Verilog code coverage utility using VCD/LXT dumpfiles (or VPI simulation interface) and the design to generate line, toggle, memory, combinational logic, FSM state/arc and assertion coverage report metrics viewable via GUI or ASCII format. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 6 21:32:37 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:32:37 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #59: package teal Message-ID: <066.b3332ee234aaf5aade2f8d821b51194a@fedorahosted.org> #59: package teal --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Keywords: | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- http://sourceforge.net/projects/teal/ TEAL - C++ multithreaded library to verfiy verilog designs -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 13:06:24 2009 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:06:24 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Maintenance 8 oct 18:00-19:00 CEST : trac - no email notifications Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910080606r3e1318d4j3280aa8b89a5c50f@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, As we are in deep freeze for Fedora 12, our open tickets for the F-12 milestones need to migrate to F-13's Milestone. That said during that process, we don't want to spam you will the email notifications of this migration. Hence during 18:00-19:00 CEST today, you will not receive any email from https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/. However, I think in the https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/timeline you can follow the items that have undergone modifications. While we are in deep freeze for F-12, we encourage you to continue your development for F-13 as rawhide isnt stopping :) Cheers, Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From myschizobuddy at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 18:56:20 2009 From: myschizobuddy at gmail.com (Ziyad Saeed) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:56:20 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] GSS Tcad Message-ID: Request for addition of GSS Tcad package*GSS* is a commercial quality TCAD software which enables two-dimensional numerical simulation of semiconductor device with well-known drift-diffusion and hydrodynamic method. Commercial competition Silvaco Atlas Synopsys Taurus Medici Synopsys Sentaurus Device Webpage of GSS http://gss-tcad.sourceforge.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From trac at fedorahosted.org Mon Oct 12 20:24:45 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:24:45 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #60: Package GSS Tcad Message-ID: <066.8f20b4a6b7b296c06ae78bb77ac0dc1b@fedorahosted.org> #60: Package GSS Tcad ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Request for addition of GSS Tcad package GSS is a commercial quality TCAD software which enables two-dimensional numerical simulation of semiconductor device with well-known drift- diffusion and hydrodynamic method. Commercial competition Silvaco Atlas Synopsys Taurus Medici Synopsys Sentaurus Device Webpage of GSS http://gss-tcad.sourceforge.net/ -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Mon Oct 12 20:25:27 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:25:27 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #61: Package GSS-TechSim Message-ID: <066.e20357989c0dd8c0d3aacdf08a012a62@fedorahosted.org> #61: Package GSS-TechSim ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Request for addition of a Process Simulation package GSS-TechSim GSS-TechSim and it can be used for the simulation of: 1.Thermal Diffusion 2.Thermal Oxidation 3.Ion Implantation 4.High-k Material Commercial Competition Silvaco Athena Webpage of GSS-TechSim http://gss-tcad.sourceforge.net/techsim.html -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Mon Oct 12 20:25:45 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:25:45 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #60: Package GSS Tcad In-Reply-To: <066.8f20b4a6b7b296c06ae78bb77ac0dc1b@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.8f20b4a6b7b296c06ae78bb77ac0dc1b@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.e4499bd2a2c8b79dd53566535e80f606@fedorahosted.org> #60: Package GSS Tcad ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * cc: myschizobuddy at gmail.com (added) -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Oct 12 20:30:08 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:30:08 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] GSS-TechSim In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910121330o2acf3de9k71449112d9db60ed@mail.gmail.com> Hello Ziyad, thanks you very much for the heads up. I'm also interested in these. It seems you are quite familiar with those tools. Do you mind to help use during the testing when we get those packages ready ? Currently we are freezing with F-12. During F-13 development cycle we can package them. Feel free to file tickets directly on https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab you will need an account: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new Cheers, Chitlesh On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Ziyad Saeed wrote: > Request for addition of a Process Simulation package > GSS-TechSim > > GSS-TechSim and it can be used for the simulation of: > > 1.Thermal Diffusion > 2.Thermal Oxidation > 3.Ion Implantation > 4.High-k Material > > Commercial Competition > > Silvaco Athena > > Webpage of GSS-TechSim > > http://gss-tcad.sourceforge.net/techsim.html > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-electronic-lab-list mailing list > Fedora-electronic-lab-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-electronic-lab-list > -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From trac at fedorahosted.org Mon Oct 12 20:31:27 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:31:27 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #62: package cgnslib (gss dependency) spec included Message-ID: <066.281d169f383a0923b020d3eb5659b23c@fedorahosted.org> #62: package cgnslib (gss dependency) spec included ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ http://cgns.sourceforge.net/ dependency for gss tcad. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From myschizobuddy at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 20:58:46 2009 From: myschizobuddy at gmail.com (Ziyad Saeed) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:58:46 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Archimedes Message-ID: Request for another tcad packageArchimedes The difference between Archimedes and GSS is that Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator which can take into account all the relevant quantum effects. Webpage http://www.gnu.org/software/archimedes/ I would love to test these packages for FEL 13 if only i can get pass the captcha on fedora registration page tried it 8 times already, even simple captchas are incorrect. there is something wrong with the captcha verification -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myschizobuddy at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 21:33:02 2009 From: myschizobuddy at gmail.com (Ziyad Saeed) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:33:02 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Aeneas Message-ID: Aeneas is a sister project of Archimedes. 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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:52 AM, John Rizzo wrote: > In the open source world there is easy to find a lot of choice for a given > application but most of the applications are usually not incredibly mature. > I think its great that someone is attempting to bring together the mature > open source packages around a given discipline. This is definitely > something that is sorely needed. > > I think it would be even greater if this project was focused on the > integration and use of these applications in a distribution independent > manner. > > So my question is; Is anyone interested in growing this project from a > "Fedora Electronics Lab" to a Open Electronics Lab? 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URL: From shakthimaan at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 07:59:34 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:29:34 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Community Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, --- On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Ziyad Saeed wrote: | Under one | umbrella Fedora can use its influence to merge these scattered programs. | Right now we can concentrate on just one distribution (Fedora). \-- The patches created while packaging for FEL, are also pushed upstream, which are applied with their releases. So, other distros, who wish to package them also benefit from our work. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 13 08:48:57 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:48:57 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #63: package : Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator Message-ID: <066.8e92fafda4a14f6845cc2eec0476eda5@fedorahosted.org> #63: package : Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: | ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Request for another tcad package Archimedes The difference between Archimedes and GSS is that Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator which can take into account all the relevant quantum effects. Webpage http://www.gnu.org/software/archimedes/ -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 13 08:50:23 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:50:23 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #64: pacakge : Aeneas is a 3D version of Archimedes Message-ID: <066.afea1af0789c89e5efe637062d7c151e@fedorahosted.org> #64: pacakge : Aeneas is a 3D version of Archimedes ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Aeneas is a sister project of Archimedes. Archimedes is a 2D Montecarlo Device simulator and Aeneas is a 3D version of it Webpage of Aeneas http://www.gnu.org/software/aeneas/ -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 13 08:52:53 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:52:53 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Feature for FEL-13 ? (was Re: Aeneas ) Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910130152p2fc73aa0p3fde7c8f9b855385@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ziyad Saeed wrote: > Aeneas is a sister project of Archimedes. Archimedes is a 2D Montecarlo > Device simulator and Aeneas is a 3D version of it > Webpage of Aeneas > http://www.gnu.org/software/aeneas/ Hello there Ziyad came up with some quite a collection in terms of tcad field. I'm thinking whether we came call this collection to be one of the features of FEL-13 and get it in time before F-13 Alpha ? What do you think ? Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 13 09:18:06 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:18:06 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Fedora is being bulky. In-Reply-To: <5124c8500910121853l34a21837pc079d9ca96212dc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5124c8500910121853l34a21837pc079d9ca96212dc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910130218w31ef9d68jfb79da1ef20f34ab@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Tom varghese wrote: > Hello there, > I feel fedora electronic lab become bulkier as number of programs increases. > Is there any way to build the .iso file with favourite programs only and > then download online?. This method is used by several other distro such as > 'slax' Hello Tom, Actually you can build any iso, but not online yet at Fedora. Fedora tends instead to encourage you to build the iso as an official spin and create a community around it. I'll describe the steps to build a customized iso. Building a live ISO at fedora is absolutely not difficult at all. I fear this email will be a bit too long :) Livecds are built from kickstart file. First have a look at FEL's kickstart file for F-13, http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/spin-kickstarts.git?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=blob_plain;f=fedora-livedvd-electronic-lab.ks;hb=master In order to make generation of livecd iso easily and that other spins such as Fedora Education can use FEL spin as a model, FEL kickstart divide the spin into two categories : * The desktop environment ( line %include fedora-livecd-desktop.ks ) * FEL Collection + Additional packages If you want your spin to be : * gnome based: use %include fedora-livecd-desktop.ks * kde based : use %include fedora-livecd-kde.ks * xfce based : use %include fedora-livecd-xfce.ks * lxde based : use %include fedora-livecd-lxde.ks grab them from http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/spin-kickstarts.git?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=tree;hb=master It's only one line to change in order to opt for a different desktop environment. This is very useful for you since appropriate testing were carried out by their respective communities. About your customized FEL livecd/livedvd: All FEL applications are available under the yum groupinstall group "electronic-lab" : (line @electronic-lab ) and the extra packages are listed afterwards. This make it easy and less work load for us to maintain and troubleshoot the FEL spin. In your case remove @electronic-lab from the %package section and add the name of the packages you wish to have. The current list of packages under the FEL umbrella is: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/list.html Choose yours. I hope I was able to answer you. You can find more details on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo regards, Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Oct 13 10:17:18 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:18 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Community Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910130317h340875ecu174cdac8ea6f62c@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:52 AM, John Rizzo < wrote: > So my question is; Is anyone interested in growing this project from a > "Fedora Electronics Lab" to a Open Electronics Lab? ?I would certainly be > happy to contribute my time to helping bring these applications to at least > one other distribution. Hello John, Actually I think the use of the word "Fedora" here confused you :) We are actually "Open" Electronic Lab. We work with upstream and will support any distribution which wishes to do something similar to our roadmap. For example, we (FEL team) support CentOS-5, RHEL-5 and Scientific-Linux-5 with the EPEL repository. I know Aanjhaan was packaging EDA software under the FEL umbrella for Ubuntu. I don't know what its status is. However the only limitation is "time". We are all community contributors. For on my behalf, I focus on making my time useful for others and getting the job done. But building this "open" electronic lab is more than packaging, let me explain. The use of "Fedora" in Fedora Electronic Lab is only to give this "Open" Electronic Lab, all the existing Fedora infrastructures: * marketing ( spreading livedvd during events paid under Fedora budget, sponsoring contributors to give talks about this "open" electronic lab around the world, again paid under Fedora budget) * Ambassadors : getting more people talk about opensource EDA in their own languages * build system and mirror * package reviews and guidelines ( make it very easy to get new packagers, through proper sponsoring and guidelines - do not let the package rot during long package reviews --- very time consuming) * help from other fedora/redhat developers * Test and QA engineers and many test days organized. see Fedora-Test mailing list for these test days * hosting facilities (again, paid under Fedora budget) * legal advice from redhat lawyers concerning licenses. - free for us * artwork and web designers * regular security assessments from FESCo members Hence contributors like me and Shakthi can focus only about electronic related packages and providing a final "product" (livedvd) to the user, and communicate with the rest of the fedora community for any help in the above list. Since FEL is a spin of fedora with fedora branding, it gets tagged with "Fedora". In order to push the status of this "open" Electronic Lab from geek to a more professional environment, so that small businesses can embrace open source software, we need an official endorsement. But it is not all, we(the opensource community) needs to advocate the use of "open" formats, which also helps interoperability in terms of data exchange. Hence in order to get heard by the corporate world ( most of the time, discussing with fedora/redhat Legal), we need a name and clear endorsement so that corporate entities can trust and listen to us with the proper respect. That said, we started everything from scratch back during F-7 development cycle, little by little based on our experience, we have developed, put in place several infrastructure and got several contacts. On the other hand, why contributors can benefit from their contributions to Fedora? RedHat Enterprise Linux is an EDA Consortium compatible linux distribution. http://www.edac.org/industry_roadmap.jsp Hence if a fel contributor is searching for a job, he/she can make full use of this status during their job interviews. Our contributions to the opensource community can easily be proliferate into systems dedicated for education and small businesses. This also helps our upstream developers a lot since their software are being employed into production environment and perhaps get more patches and contributors. On top of all these, FEL remains an "open" electronic lab, but with a clear roadmap to promote opensource * EDA software * EDA developers * hardware communities, eg openmoko * EDA data formats ... I would really want another distribution to pick up with similar goals (but not only simple packaging), so that the whole opensource eco system can drive forward more quickly. For this "open" electronic lab we have at Fedora, we currently have a LOT of work to do. One of the items I really want to push forward are submission of papers (concerning opensource eda sofware, of course) for IEEE events, interoperability forums, .... This I believe will give value to our upstream developers and opensource software overall. If you are looking forward to provide a similar platform for another distribution from scratch, you are welcome to do so and we will be very happy to exchange patches and inform you about certain critical paths. If you want to join us to continuously push forward, based on the existing fedora' EDA platform and infrastruture, we will be very happy to provide you with any developer credentials you may need. All our FEL developers(even me) have the same credentials. I hope I was able to answer you. Cheers, Chitlesh Goorah PS: I secretly want more leaders behind FEL. -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 13 12:30:34 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:30:34 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #65: package petsc ( dependency fo gss ) Message-ID: <066.7231ba17c78e016ffebc643694b7e821@fedorahosted.org> #65: package petsc ( dependency fo gss ) ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ petsc is a dependency for gss draft spec included, but needs to be refined -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Wed Oct 14 11:31:08 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:31:08 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #66: 4-clause BSD issue Message-ID: <071.2d012ab62d22da91e1f22d487a557d47@fedorahosted.org> #66: 4-clause BSD issue ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: 4-clause BSD | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ There is a question by one of the opensource developers of NanoTCAD whether his code which is a 4-clause BSD is allowed to be packaged in FEL or not. I will contact Fedora-Legal and sort out this issue. The license is as follows LICENSE Copyright (c) 2004-2008, G. Fiori, G. Iannaccone, University of Pisa. All rights reserved. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: - Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. - Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. - All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement: This product includes software developed by G.Fiori and G.Iannaccone at University of Pisa. - Neither the name of the University of Pisa nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission. THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY G.FIORI AND G.IANNACCONE ''AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL G.FIORI, AND G.IANNACCONE BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Wed Oct 14 11:33:29 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:33:29 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #66: 4-clause BSD issue In-Reply-To: <071.2d012ab62d22da91e1f22d487a557d47@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.2d012ab62d22da91e1f22d487a557d47@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.d3b1d57716f49ffa242fc0da51e9cdf5@fedorahosted.org> #66: 4-clause BSD issue ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: myschizobuddy Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: 4-clause BSD ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Changes (by myschizobuddy): * owner: chitlesh => myschizobuddy -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Wed Oct 14 11:51:50 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:51:50 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #67: Add TCAD Section Message-ID: <071.eb5c5e8c8585bae1e95ee6c1fa72c130@fedorahosted.org> #67: Add TCAD Section -----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: gss, archimedes, aeneas, nanotcad | -----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Another Category needs to be added to FEL. Category Heading: TCAD It has two subcategories if you want finner hierarchy, Device Simulation and Process Simulation. We don't need these subcategories right now cause we don't yet have that many packages We are planning to add a couple of packages as a start GSS is a 2D Device Simulator which uses DD and EB models[[BR]] Archimedes is a 2D Device Simulator using Monte Carlo method[[BR]] Aeneas is a 3D Device Simulator using Monte Carlo method[[BR]] GSS-Techsim is a 2D Process simulator, it comes packaged with GSS. I have contacted the respective authors of these packages and they are really excited to be part of FEL. They also shared information about the current work they are doing especially a GUI for Archimedes. There are some licensing issues with NanoTCAD and a new 3D Parallel Simulator by the Developers of GSS. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Thu Oct 15 06:06:06 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:06:06 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #66: 4-clause BSD issue In-Reply-To: <071.2d012ab62d22da91e1f22d487a557d47@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.2d012ab62d22da91e1f22d487a557d47@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.8fe9481c77b35925b0ffbc6f1f05a16d@fedorahosted.org> #66: 4-clause BSD issue ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: myschizobuddy Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: 4-clause BSD ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by myschizobuddy): Reply from Fedora Legal It is permitted, but it is worth mentioning that because of the "advertising" clause, this license is GPL incompatible, which may cause problems with other software. The original author of the BSD license (Regents of the University of California) has stopped using the advertising clause, and has withdrawn it from all code for which they are the copyright holder. I would strongly advise the NanoTCAD developer to also drop the advertising clause. For more information, see: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#UC_Berkeley_advertising_clause / UC_Berkeley_advertising_clause] Thanks, Tom Callaway, Fedora Legal -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 11:17:30 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:17:30 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #57: DGC - Digital Gate Compiler In-Reply-To: <066.6493b793821c6e30366e947a19c144c6@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.6493b793821c6e30366e947a19c144c6@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.4cdae11aae8ac050594b4fe3eea37984@fedorahosted.org> #57: DGC - Digital Gate Compiler ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: PLA ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Changes (by chitlesh): * type: defect => enhancement Comment: Draft included. Need Packager -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 11:36:57 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:36:57 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #67: Add TCAD Section In-Reply-To: <071.eb5c5e8c8585bae1e95ee6c1fa72c130@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.eb5c5e8c8585bae1e95ee6c1fa72c130@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.e66ba8937f62aeb11db1f94abf159a0f@fedorahosted.org> #67: Add TCAD Section ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: fixed | Keywords: gss, archimedes, aeneas, nanotcad ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): The subcategories are also created. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 11:46:53 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:46:53 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #58: package covered In-Reply-To: <066.331eced2168c950ce3ceba45d89a54e3@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.331eced2168c950ce3ceba45d89a54e3@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.1407921ba7b0244feed194f4395548b9@fedorahosted.org> #58: package covered ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Comment (by chitlesh): Upstream was contacted to invite him to package covered for fedora. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 18:20:43 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:20:43 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #58: package covered In-Reply-To: <066.331eced2168c950ce3ceba45d89a54e3@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.331eced2168c950ce3ceba45d89a54e3@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.3a3f17161e4d4372faa8d320774dedc7@fedorahosted.org> #58: package covered ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Comment (by myschizobuddy): do you use a template for inviting upstream -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From myschizobuddy at gmail.com Sat Oct 17 18:30:32 2009 From: myschizobuddy at gmail.com (Ziyad Saeed) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:30:32 +0500 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Donations for FEL packages Message-ID: Is there any plan for FEL Donations. Specially donation towards individual packages of a group. For eg, I'm mostly interested in TCAD so I can donate towards the TCAD group and donation will be split and send to individual softwares belonging to the group. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 18:33:25 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:33:25 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #68: Package: Icarus Verilog Interactive Message-ID: <071.ac948ce491b957a19311fde8de71ed9f@fedorahosted.org> #68: Package: Icarus Verilog Interactive ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ This is a UI for icarus verilog package based on eclipse http://ivi.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 18:34:49 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:34:49 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #67: Add TCAD Section In-Reply-To: <071.eb5c5e8c8585bae1e95ee6c1fa72c130@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.eb5c5e8c8585bae1e95ee6c1fa72c130@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.51dd7c95d97f38b7570147ac37b9f8c0@fedorahosted.org> #67: Add TCAD Section ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: fixed | Keywords: gss, archimedes, aeneas, nanotcad ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by myschizobuddy): can we remove the subcategories. We don't need them its cluttering up the menu -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 18:39:07 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:39:07 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #67: Add TCAD Section In-Reply-To: <071.eb5c5e8c8585bae1e95ee6c1fa72c130@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.eb5c5e8c8585bae1e95ee6c1fa72c130@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.c150147413d624856ad88590e5594f27@fedorahosted.org> #67: Add TCAD Section ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: fixed | Keywords: gss, archimedes, aeneas, nanotcad ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): Done -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 17 18:45:37 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:45:37 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Donations for FEL packages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910171145k20786cafnf72eeb83630c87bb@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Ziyad Saeed wrote: > Is there any plan for FEL Donations. > Specially donation towards individual packages of a group. For eg, I'm > mostly interested in TCAD so I can donate towards the TCAD group and > donation will be split and send to individual softwares belonging to the > group. Actually the current active developers are Shakthi and I in terms of managing the global FEL lifecycle. I think donation should be either forwarded to upstream developers or the Fedora Project. However Fedora does not really have a donation infrastructure, except the budget received from Red Hat directly. I would recommend you to ask upstream developers whether they need a specific technical paper (e.g from IEEE), which they might use to implement a new feature to the existing TCAD software. Hence your donation will be fruitful for everyone. :) Or another possible case would be, to ask upstream developers whether they want to hold a talk in a leading semiconductor event (e.g IEEE organized). Hence you can sponsor then to give a presentation to the corporate environment or more technical public. Chitlesh -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 18:46:50 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:46:50 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #68: Package: Icarus Verilog Interactive In-Reply-To: <071.ac948ce491b957a19311fde8de71ed9f@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.ac948ce491b957a19311fde8de71ed9f@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.c22bab363ad064d5eb244a466caf235a@fedorahosted.org> #68: Package: Icarus Verilog Interactive ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * component: FEL => VHDL/Verilog Comment: Actually IVI's development is no longer active and I think it is no longer compatible with even the older Eclipse 3.4 -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 18:51:13 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:51:13 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #63: package : Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator In-Reply-To: <066.8e92fafda4a14f6845cc2eec0476eda5@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.8e92fafda4a14f6845cc2eec0476eda5@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.c2aa8691d8896c6e2174de89989dca6a@fedorahosted.org> #63: package : Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: TCAD | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): A draft spec file was uploaded. Is someone interested in improving it and request a package review ? In the meantime, you can test archimedes by downloading the rpm of your architecture from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch/chitlesh/task_1751846/ and install it with rpm -Uvh archimedes-XXXXXX Examples can be found in the /usr/share/doc/archimedes-0.8.0/examples/ directory. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 18:55:03 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:55:03 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #58: package covered In-Reply-To: <066.331eced2168c950ce3ceba45d89a54e3@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.331eced2168c950ce3ceba45d89a54e3@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.25c04d1f0e68c09360159f219894196a@fedorahosted.org> #58: package covered ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Comment (by chitlesh): No there is no formal template. I just write an email requesting them and tell them the benefits of having their software in fedora (testing, marketing ...) -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 19:05:16 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:05:16 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #69: Package: Mr Filter Message-ID: <071.edddf6619d90d79d01f4bd7da57d2d71@fedorahosted.org> #69: Package: Mr Filter ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Keywords: | ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Its a graphical Active filter design software. Its a basic package no circuit schematic support but good from generating graphs for different types of filters This package should go under Analog Design. This probably is the only opensource filter design software and hence should be given priority http://mrfilter.sourceforge.net/ -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 20:13:51 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:13:51 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #63: package : Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator In-Reply-To: <066.8e92fafda4a14f6845cc2eec0476eda5@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.8e92fafda4a14f6845cc2eec0476eda5@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.3e4df29ba61e4fc2acda1cab2a5ad8b1@fedorahosted.org> #63: package : Archimedes is a Montecarlo simulator -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: TCAD | Version: devel Resolution: worksforme | Keywords: -------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * status: new => closed * resolution: => worksforme Comment: Archimedes is already provided by fedora : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5146 I'm closing this ticket as worksforme. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 17 20:27:16 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:27:16 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #69: Package: Mr Filter In-Reply-To: <071.edddf6619d90d79d01f4bd7da57d2d71@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.edddf6619d90d79d01f4bd7da57d2d71@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.d774594a3851d8c364fe5b5219cea718@fedorahosted.org> #69: Package: Mr Filter ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): On the website I read : Author: Alan Somers asomFEDORAers at user .... the word Fedora here seems interesting. Can you ask upstream to package it for fedora :) -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Mon Oct 19 11:18:31 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:18:31 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #69: Package: Mr Filter In-Reply-To: <071.edddf6619d90d79d01f4bd7da57d2d71@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.edddf6619d90d79d01f4bd7da57d2d71@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.7f6e33b50157ae5cf862fe6046e0ceea@fedorahosted.org> #69: Package: Mr Filter ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: analog design | Version: devel Resolution: wontfix | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Changes (by myschizobuddy): * status: new => closed * resolution: => wontfix Comment: Reply from author I would for Mr Filter to be part of FEL. However, I think that it is not yet ready. Many features are still unimplemented. Once it reaches beta stage, I will make packages for it. I'm also working on another program that might interest you: spicelib (http://www.h-renrew.de/h/spicelib/doc/index.html). It automatically downloads spice models from multiple vendors, fixes them to work with ngspice and gnucap, and tests the resulting models. Currently there are almost 2000 models included. However, it is also not yet ready for a wide release. Hopefully it won't be too long before I get these programs in shape, and I'll contact you then. So in the mean time just put this package on hold -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Mon Oct 19 21:57:53 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:57:53 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] [Fedora Electronic Lab] #70: package PART-E : Eclipse Plug-In for Xilinx FPGAs Message-ID: <066.b22495ba52e962e35f5d2f5735368c96@fedorahosted.org> #70: package PART-E : Eclipse Plug-In for Xilinx FPGAs --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Keywords: fpga | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- http://sourceforge.net/projects/parte/ A tool for the design of reconfigurable systems, implemented as Eclipse Plug-In, mainly for Xilinx FPGAs using the EarlyAccess design flow. Design your system graphically, attach source files (VHDL) and automatically generate (partial) bitstreams. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Mon Oct 19 22:14:47 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:14:47 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #56: tuned scriptlets in geda-gaf 1.6 spec files for speed In-Reply-To: <066.b1defc296c1c194ebd9ba0158f8061e0@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.b1defc296c1c194ebd9ba0158f8061e0@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.e0835d149621d0cae8df80ca273a70c7@fedorahosted.org> #56: tuned scriptlets in geda-gaf 1.6 spec files for speed -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: assigned Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * status: new => assigned Comment: geda-gaf-1.6.0-1.el5 (135276) failed on ppc3.fedora.redhat.com (noarch), x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com (i386): BuildError: error building package (arch noarch), mock exited with status 1; see build.log for more information SRPMS: geda-gaf-1.6.0-1.el5.src.rpm Failed tasks: ------------- Task 1730121 on ppc3.fedora.redhat.com Task Type: build (dist-5E-epel-testing-candidate, /cvs/pkgs:rpms/geda- gaf/EL-5:geda-gaf-1_6_0-1_el5) Task 1730143 on x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com Task Type: buildArch (geda-gaf-1.6.0-1.el5.src.rpm, noarch) logs: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1730143&name=build.log http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1730143&name=root.log http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1730143&name=state.log -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Wed Oct 21 18:03:50 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:03:50 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #57: DGC - Digital Gate Compiler In-Reply-To: <066.6493b793821c6e30366e947a19c144c6@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.6493b793821c6e30366e947a19c144c6@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.ae5b6200e1f3f3e81eb51e05ff94161b@fedorahosted.org> #57: DGC - Digital Gate Compiler ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: shakthimaan* Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: PLA ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Changes (by shakthimaan): * owner: chitlesh => shakthimaan* -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 24 12:52:31 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:52:31 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #66: 4-clause BSD issue In-Reply-To: <071.2d012ab62d22da91e1f22d487a557d47@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.2d012ab62d22da91e1f22d487a557d47@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.42479693a4b6fff202da076fb444828f@fedorahosted.org> #66: 4-clause BSD issue ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: myschizobuddy Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: 4-clause BSD ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Changes (by myschizobuddy): * cc: chitlesh (added) Comment: Reply from the author of NanoTCAD "I have talked with the other author of the code, and we both agreed in releasing the code in the FEL package with the 4-clause BSD license. Actually I would like to have more information concerning how you want to proceed. I would also like to include in Fedora the last version of the code, which is not the one you can find on the NanoTCAD ViDES website, and which I can provide you." -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 27 12:21:55 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:21:55 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #64: pacakge : Aeneas is a 3D version of Archimedes In-Reply-To: <066.afea1af0789c89e5efe637062d7c151e@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.afea1af0789c89e5efe637062d7c151e@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.65dd634032462245aed227cda4eb5eb2@fedorahosted.org> #64: pacakge : Aeneas is a 3D version of Archimedes -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: TCAD | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): Draft spec file uploaded: test rpms available for F-11 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch/chitlesh/task_1772110/ F-12 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch/chitlesh/task_1772117/ Examples available : $ rpm -qld aeneas 1. Need a package to submit aeneas for package review. 2. Need a tester for functional testing. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 27 12:22:33 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:22:33 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #64: pacakge : Aeneas is a 3D version of Archimedes In-Reply-To: <071.588392814d4b194847087537789ae2a1@fedorahosted.org> References: <071.588392814d4b194847087537789ae2a1@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <080.6ac0a1cb96a5e2dea0394fa02cee914b@fedorahosted.org> #64: pacakge : Aeneas is a 3D version of Archimedes ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: myschizobuddy | Owner: chitlesh Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: TCAD | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Changes (by chitlesh): * reporter: chitlesh => myschizobuddy -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From trac at fedorahosted.org Tue Oct 27 20:57:36 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:57:36 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #70: package PART-E : Eclipse Plug-In for Xilinx FPGAs In-Reply-To: <066.b22495ba52e962e35f5d2f5735368c96@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.b22495ba52e962e35f5d2f5735368c96@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.26a259e64f5d4ee9a18c3d93bf380d5d@fedorahosted.org> #70: package PART-E : Eclipse Plug-In for Xilinx FPGAs ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: VHDL/Verilog | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: fpga ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Comment (by chitlesh): The sources seem to be windows oriented. It bundles some plugins that we already have such as the veditor, gmf,.. It seems that it should be ported to eclipse 3.5. Perfect job for a junior java developer :) It also bundles the core eclipse with it. One should separate the core and the plugin. -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 31 20:04:37 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:04:37 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ? Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Shakthi has recently encountered a situation where I think upstream of his package is pretty non-responsive, that we can call it dead upstream. I went to see on sourceforge to see how many of the EDA tools's development were pretty much dead. I was surprise to see my bright ideas unachieved. So the question is As a community driven and non-profit opensource EDA leader, what should we do ? I would like to hear from you how you would like to contribute to solve this situation. As far as I'm concerned, I would rather want to take over the upstream responsibilities and little by little migrate the code/features to an active upstream of existing opensource EDA software. In other words, improve the existing supported opensource EDA tools. It will also be very interesting for new developers who don't actually know what to contribute to the opensource community. Kind regards, Chitlesh From aanjhan at gmail.com Sat Oct 31 20:09:06 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:09:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Shakthi has recently encountered a situation where I think upstream of > his package is pretty non-responsive, that we can call it dead > upstream. Is it some secret crime site investigation of not revealing the dead victim? -- A From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 31 20:14:17 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:14:17 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ? In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910311314t72221b1enccb68cfb3297be47@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Aanjhan R < hidden > wrote: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH > wrote: >> Shakthi has recently encountered a situation where I think upstream of >> his package is pretty non-responsive, that we can call it dead >> upstream. > > Is it some secret crime site investigation of not revealing the dead victim? > > -- > A > No it's not. However not naming the victim can help to deduce unbiased solutions/procedures how to solve this problem. By the way, its https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/57 Chitlesh From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sat Oct 31 20:15:50 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:45:50 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: | Shakthi has recently encountered a situation where I think upstream of | his package is pretty non-responsive, that we can call it dead | upstream. \-- Actually, I got one reply yesterday, but, I have been pushing this way too far, and way too long! One of the authors forgot to "Reply all", unfortunately. I have sent some queries, and hopefully will get some answers. It is good code, just that it has been unmaintained for many years. --- | As far as I'm concerned, I would rather want to take over the upstream | responsibilities and little by little migrate the code/features to an | active upstream of existing opensource EDA software. In other words, | improve the existing supported opensource EDA tools. \-- Do you want to put these tasks as low priority, or do you want these to be taken by any new-comers who can use it as a learning exercise? Is it possible for you to prioritise the tickets? Let me know, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 31 20:28:02 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:28:02 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ? In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910311328o7ffa9a5fk720140a33d7c03f4@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Shakthi Kannan < hidden > wrote: > Do you want to put these tasks as low priority, or do you want these > to be taken by any new-comers who can use it as a learning exercise? > > Is it possible for you to prioritise the tickets? Actually anyone has the right to prioritise any ticket. As for this dead upstream discussion, I won't encourage forking if there is an upstream. However, if there is no upstream then I think it would be best to migrate the code/features to another EDA tools whose development is active. Of course, this would entail first discussing with both upstream. Such discussions can be carried out here on this mailing list. Indeed such tasks can be done by new-comers. We need to have something to track such progress, which comes to another question I'm unable to answer: Do we need a wiki or should we stick with our ticket based system ? Currently we have a wiki on FedoraProject.org and another one on https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab. We are not using both. Chitlesh From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sat Oct 31 20:38:00 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:08:00 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0910311328o7ffa9a5fk720140a33d7c03f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0910311328o7ffa9a5fk720140a33d7c03f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: | Do we need a wiki or should we stick with our ticket based system ? \-- We can use both, IMO. Ticket based system is simple and serves the needs to keep track of work. --- | Currently we have a wiki on FedoraProject.org and another one on | https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab. We are not using both. \-- For the wiki: * CSS work is required to motivate people to use it, and put project/tools documentation. * The documentation should be made usable offline, by exporting it to pdf or some other format. Or, if we want to use LaTeX for all our documentation, we will need to revision its sources, and make .pdf versions available for users to download and use. The following needs to be completed for it? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/25 For the ticket-based system: * Some nice CSS changes will be helpful. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 31 21:12:24 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:12:24 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Dead Upstream what should we do ? In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0910311304q7c4e7e10w223349ab6e239808@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0910311328o7ffa9a5fk720140a33d7c03f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910311412t559624dbk9cb55d4279c190f6@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > For the wiki: > * CSS work is required to motivate people to use it, and put > project/tools documentation. Which CSS work ? You mean theme trac ? If you have a theme in mind, we can package it and ask Fedora Infrastructure to set it up. > * The documentation should be made usable offline, by exporting it to > pdf or some other format. Yes this has been an issue for quite a long time now. This is my opinion but I would certainly like to hear yours. There is upstream documentation and FEL specific documentation. Our objective should be to have less FEL specific documentation and migrate any documentation to their upstream sources. That said, upstream documentation should be a manpage, tutorials and examples. These go to %doc in the FEL packaging. FEL specific documentation should be where to find the examples, whether docs are in main package or -doc package, which variable which needs to set up and how interoperability between tools of different upstream work. I was thinking of a yelp based help similar to the gnome help. It is fairly easy to write a script to create such a yelp infrastructure. The latter will then be called directly from the Electronics menu on the gnome menu. I've drafted a piece here, https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/browser/documentation As for the upstream documentation, if someone finds a tutorial (not from upstream) about a tool we need to contact upstream to put it among the sources. Another question comes up. Wouldn't it be nice to have a similar latex template of all EDA software ? > Or, if we want to use LaTeX for all our documentation, we will need to > revision its sources, and make .pdf versions available for users to > download and use. Here we can use the fel git repo. I've already all the versions of FEL flyer and release notes sources there. > The following needs to be completed for it? > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/25 I'm reviewing a nice application https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526844 > > For the ticket-based system: > * Some nice CSS changes will be helpful. I'm not a CSS expert. I can't help you there. However we can propose mockups to the Fedora Websites team to create CSS for us. If you have something in mind please propose :) Actually other Fedora spins consider FEL as a model, so please propose your ideas :) Chitlesh From trac at fedorahosted.org Sat Oct 31 21:14:35 2009 From: trac at fedorahosted.org (Fedora Electronic Lab) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:14:35 -0000 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] Re: [Fedora Electronic Lab] #25: electronic symbols for latex documents In-Reply-To: <066.8c44805dde1b2efa3a7edbb0eab32977@fedorahosted.org> References: <066.8c44805dde1b2efa3a7edbb0eab32977@fedorahosted.org> Message-ID: <075.39d16396b6784bfa49ea11196b6cf392@fedorahosted.org> #25: electronic symbols for latex documents -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Reporter: chitlesh | Owner: chitlesh Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 13 Component: FEL | Version: devel Resolution: | Keywords: -----------------------+---------------------------------------------------- Comment (by chitlesh): Worth following this package review as well : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526844 -- Ticket URL: Fedora Electronic Lab Design, Simulate and Program electronics. From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Oct 31 21:26:10 2009 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:26:10 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-electronic-lab] tasks, feature list for FEL-13 ? Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0910311426o69d6f627rbf2c561f7c31a49f@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, As myschizobuddy is wishing to see TCAD tools for F-13, let's draft a feature list and task list to do during Fedora-13 development cycle: Proposal *** Feature List *** * TCAD tools * Clear SystemC and TLM license issue As you know we had to discard SystemC from FEL collection due to a licensing issue. However I've some contacts with the OSCI board, whom I've already contacted and provided legal advice. Cf. LinkedIn EDA Free Open Source Software - FOSS http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&gid=2221461&discussionID=8403812&goback=.anh_2221461 * Clear access to User Documentation *** Tasks *** * Increase our global exposure : events, paper submission, * Get a real FEL website with integrated gallery and tickets. Please fill in you wishes. -- Chitlesh GOORAH Fedora Electronic Lab Architect http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL