From seg at haxxed.com Thu Feb 8 04:10:15 2007 From: seg at haxxed.com (Callum Lerwick) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:10:15 -0600 Subject: Packaging the Second Life viewer Message-ID: <1170907816.13307.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Okay, I've been working on packaging the Second Life client GPL sources. Its been a long drawn out pain in the ass... I kinda hope no one else has done it already. :) I've got it to compile on my system outside of mock, I'm currently working on getting it to compile in mock. I've had to package up some deps too: openjpeg, elfio and xmlrpc-epi Once I get the damn thing to compile in mock I'll make them available on my web site. Compiling SL seems to take upwards of an hour, and its build system is breaking ccache... I'm told the "First Look" branch has separated out JPG2K decode into its own thread, so it doesn't block the entire client. This should make the free build usable. There's also a forked project called OpenSL, however its web site is rather sparse on details of how exactly it differs from the mainline. http://opensecondlife.org/wiki/OpenSecondLife -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From steve at silug.org Wed Feb 14 21:45:28 2007 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:45:28 -0600 Subject: new version of supertux Message-ID: <20070214214528.GA5730@osiris.silug.org> There is a new version of supertux out. The announcement is here: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/supertux-devel/2006-December/001338.html You should be able to install it from extras-development now. (It installs fine on FC6 for me.) Upstream doesn't consider this a "stable" release, but if it seems to be working well for everyone, I'm tempted to push an update for FC6. Feedback appreciated on this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220665 Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From wart at kobold.org Wed Feb 14 21:54:59 2007 From: wart at kobold.org (Michael Thomas) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:54:59 -0800 Subject: new version of supertux In-Reply-To: <20070214214528.GA5730@osiris.silug.org> References: <20070214214528.GA5730@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <45D38533.3060201@kobold.org> Steven Pritchard wrote: > There is a new version of supertux out. The announcement is here: > > http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/supertux-devel/2006-December/001338.html > > You should be able to install it from extras-development now. (It > installs fine on FC6 for me.) Upstream doesn't consider this a > "stable" release, but if it seems to be working well for everyone, I'm > tempted to push an update for FC6. > > Feedback appreciated on this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220665 As I just wrote in bugzilla, I would avoid upgrading this for FC6 if there are any savefile or config file compatibilty problems upgrading from the current FC6 version to 0.3.0. I managed to irritate a few people when I bumped prboom from the 2.3 series to 2.4 in FC6 because of save/config file incompatibilities. --Wart From tibbs at math.uh.edu Thu Feb 15 00:18:24 2007 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 14 Feb 2007 18:18:24 -0600 Subject: new version of supertux In-Reply-To: <45D38533.3060201@kobold.org> References: <20070214214528.GA5730@osiris.silug.org> <45D38533.3060201@kobold.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "MT" == Michael Thomas writes: MT> As I just wrote in bugzilla, I would avoid upgrading this for FC6 MT> if there are any savefile or config file compatibilty problems MT> upgrading from the current FC6 version to 0.3.0. I have to agree; I've avoided bumping nazghul in the release branches due to savefile incompatibilities. (I'm only guessing as to the number of people who might actually have it installed though; my best estimate is about three or so. Smolt, save us!) If you do update devel, make sure to get something into the release notes. The simplest way seems to be to include "*docs*" in your commit message and write in the release note. - J< From seg at haxxed.com Fri Feb 16 09:35:31 2007 From: seg at haxxed.com (Callum Lerwick) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:35:31 -0600 Subject: Second Life client packaged for Fedora Message-ID: <1171618531.2953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Okay, after much pain, sorrow and apparently duplicated effort[*] I finally managed to get a vaguely usable Second Life package + deps: http://www.haxxed.com/rpms/secondlife/ * spot has some packages too: http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/SecondLife/ Don't expect his and mine to be interchangeable just yet. I guess we have some merging to do... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Feb 16 09:46:14 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:46:14 +0100 Subject: Second Life client packaged for Fedora In-Reply-To: <1171618531.2953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1171618531.2953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45D57D66.8020405@hhs.nl> Callum Lerwick wrote: > Okay, after much pain, sorrow and apparently duplicated effort[*] I > finally managed to get a vaguely usable Second Life package + deps: > Excellent new. If you and spot can merge your efforts to create a best of both set of packages and then submit them for review then I would be more then willing todo some of the reviewing. Regards, Hans From lemenkov at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 10:29:42 2007 From: lemenkov at gmail.com (Peter Lemenkov) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:29:42 +0300 Subject: Second Life client packaged for Fedora In-Reply-To: <1171618531.2953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1171618531.2953.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2007/2/16, Callum Lerwick : > Okay, after much pain, sorrow and apparently duplicated effort[*] I > finally managed to get a vaguely usable Second Life package + deps: > > http://www.haxxed.com/rpms/secondlife/ > > * spot has some packages too: > > http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/SecondLife/ > > Don't expect his and mine to be interchangeable just yet. I guess we > have some merging to do... Good news! I've heard there are some license-issues in SecondLife. Did they resolved? -- With best regards! From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Feb 23 14:49:23 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Goede, J.W.R. de) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:49:23 +0100 Subject: Games SIG "State of the Union" Message-ID: Hi all, Actually text attached to stop this webmail client from screwing it up. Regards, Hans -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: games-sig.txt URL: From wart at kobold.org Fri Feb 23 20:08:06 2007 From: wart at kobold.org (Michael Thomas) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:08:06 -0800 Subject: Games SIG "State of the Union" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45DF49A6.3010807@kobold.org> Goede, J.W.R. de wrote: > Hi All, > > I don't know if any of you realise it, but this month its a year ago that > Tibbs started the games SIG. Hence this "Games SIG State of the Union". > [...] > Your opinion on the future of the Games SIG is much appreciated, add your 2 cents please! Since you asked... :) I've been exteremely impressed with the large number of quality games that have appeared. A Games menu in the gnome panel that doesn't fit on a 1600x1200 screen is a _good_ problem to have. :) Along those lines, there are a few things to consider: 1) Breaking the menu up into more manageable submenus. I think Hans started some work on this, but it got stalled somewhere. Maybe he can update us on the status and we can find some warm bodies to help push it forward. 2) A Fedora Games spin, or live CD. I've been tossing this idea around in my head for a few weeks, and I don't know if it's a good idea or not. On the one hand, it would be good publicity to show what we've done, and what great free games are available for both Fedora and Linux in general. On the other hand, lack of decent free 3D support for the two popular video card manufacturers will stir up the "3D sucks in Fedora/Linux" chanting again, and may turn into bad publicity. I read a review recently (I forget where) of a 'Game Edition' of some linux distro, and it got panned because of the lack of real 3D support. I agree that documentation of what we've done, whether it's through a 'news' release, or set of wiki pages, is an important goal for the coming year.Before he disappeared, Hugo (Eitch) did a good job to create a template for wiki pages for games, and converted some of the existing game pages to use this template. This should help the process, but we still need warm bodies to take screenshots and fill in the blanks. Even if just a few of us work on documenting one game each week, we'd make progress very quickly. In addition to documenting what we've done, I've set up a public game server (games.kobold.org) to host some of the networkable Fedora games, currently xpilot, crossfire, cyphesis, and poker-network. Advertising the existence of this, and other potential game servers, might draw more interest from the user community. Personally, I've almost reached my limit for the number of packages that I can maintain (~50). I'm willing to work on getting some new games packaged, but can't be the primary maintainer of any more. Instead, I've been concentrating on adding new features to existing packages, such as selinux support and logwatch scripts for game daemons. Another topic that has been discussed on the mailing list related to Hans' #7 is adding the games sig mailing list in the InitialCC: field in the package database/owners.list for game packages. This would alert the entire sig to bugs quickly. The mailing list does not get a lot of traffic already, and I tend to see few bug reports on games now, so I don't think this should cause any real burden on everyone's inbox. If there are no objections, then I'll start by adding the mailing list as a cc: on my own packages. Thanks for all the fun it's been this past year, and I look forward to more of the same this year. :) --Wart From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Feb 23 22:43:23 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:43:23 +0100 Subject: Games SIG "State of the Union" In-Reply-To: <45DF49A6.3010807@kobold.org> References: <45DF49A6.3010807@kobold.org> Message-ID: <45DF6E0B.80803@hhs.nl> Michael Thomas wrote: > Goede, J.W.R. de wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I don't know if any of you realise it, but this month its a year ago that >> Tibbs started the games SIG. Hence this "Games SIG State of the Union". >> > [...] >> Your opinion on the future of the Games SIG is much appreciated, add >> your 2 cents please! > > Since you asked... :) > > I've been exteremely impressed with the large number of quality > games that have appeared. A Games menu in the gnome panel that > doesn't fit on a 1600x1200 screen is a _good_ problem to have. :) Along > those lines, there are a few things to consider: > > 1) Breaking the menu up into more manageable submenus. I think > Hans started some work on this, but it got stalled somewhere. > Maybe he can update us on the status and we can find some warm > bodies to help push it forward. > Good that you mention that, I actually have that nailed pretty much down I just need to finish it up and package it, I'll see if I can find some time for that soon. > 2) A Fedora Games spin, or live CD. I've been tossing this idea > around in my head for a few weeks, and I don't know if it's a > good idea or not. On the one hand, it would be good publicity to > show what we've done, and what great free games are available for > both Fedora and Linux in general. On the other hand, lack of > decent free 3D support for the two popular video card > manufacturers will stir up the "3D sucks in Fedora/Linux" > chanting again, and may turn into bad publicity. I read a review > recently (I forget where) of a 'Game Edition' of some linux > distro, and it got panned because of the lack of real 3D support. > I've been thinking about a Fedora Games spin too :) > Another topic that has been discussed on the mailing list related > to Hans' #7 is adding the games sig mailing list in the > InitialCC: field in the package database/owners.list for game > packages. This would alert the entire sig to bugs quickly. The > mailing list does not get a lot of traffic already, and I tend to > see few bug reports on games now, so I don't think this should > cause any real burden on everyone's inbox. If there are no > objections, then I'll start by adding the mailing list as a cc: > on my own packages. > Sounds like a great idea, but we need a CVS admin for this as we can no longer edit owners.list . > Thanks for all the fun it's been this past year, and I look forward > to more of the same this year. :) > Yeah, so do I :) Regards, Hans From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 23:01:50 2007 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:01:50 -0500 Subject: Games SIG "State of the Union" In-Reply-To: <45DF6E0B.80803@hhs.nl> References: <45DF49A6.3010807@kobold.org> <45DF6E0B.80803@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <1172271710.11060.35.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 23:43 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Goede, J.W.R. de wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I don't know if any of you realise it, but this month its a year ago that > >> Tibbs started the games SIG. Hence this "Games SIG State of the Union". > >> > > [...] > >> Your opinion on the future of the Games SIG is much appreciated, add > >> your 2 cents please! There are hundreds of games available for xmame. Could the legal ones be added?? So far, there are only about 3 at atrpms in one single rpm. Plus, I'm having the dickens of a time getting gxmame to see the /usr/share/xmame/roms directory. So, I have no clue how to find which ones are legal or not, but if someone would clue me in, I'd be more than happy to check it out. Plus, there are many assorted frontends for xmame to be included. This would certainly flesh out a games offering for the public to enjoy. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================ From chris.stone at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 02:17:11 2007 From: chris.stone at gmail.com (Christopher Stone) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:17:11 -0800 Subject: Games SIG "State of the Union" In-Reply-To: <1172271710.11060.35.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <45DF49A6.3010807@kobold.org> <45DF6E0B.80803@hhs.nl> <1172271710.11060.35.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: On 2/23/07, Ric Moore wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 23:43 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > > Goede, J.W.R. de wrote: > > >> Hi All, > > >> > > >> I don't know if any of you realise it, but this month its a year ago that > > >> Tibbs started the games SIG. Hence this "Games SIG State of the Union". > > >> > > > [...] > > >> Your opinion on the future of the Games SIG is much appreciated, add > > >> your 2 cents please! > > There are hundreds of games available for xmame. Could the legal ones be > added?? So far, there are only about 3 at atrpms in one single rpm. > > Plus, I'm having the dickens of a time getting gxmame to see > the /usr/share/xmame/roms directory. > > So, I have no clue how to find which ones are legal or not, but if > someone would clue me in, I'd be more than happy to check it out. Plus, > there are many assorted frontends for xmame to be included. This would > certainly flesh out a games offering for the public to enjoy. Ric All the mame stuff is now packaged at dribble.org.uk. I like the idea of a Games spin, do we necessarily have to make the spin totally free? That is, could we include dribble's sdlmame rpms and frontends in the games spin? From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sat Feb 24 09:01:47 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:01:47 +0100 Subject: Games SIG "State of the Union" In-Reply-To: References: <45DF49A6.3010807@kobold.org> <45DF6E0B.80803@hhs.nl> <1172271710.11060.35.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <45DFFEFB.5020602@hhs.nl> Christopher Stone wrote: > > I like the idea of a Games spin, do we necessarily have to make the > spin totally free? Unless we want to replace the artwork and come up with a different name then Fedora Games, yes it has to be totally free. To be honest I wouldn't be interested working on a non free spin. Regards, Hans From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Mon Feb 26 19:18:03 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:18:03 +0100 Subject: AWOL maintainer, Games looking for new owner Message-ID: <45E3326B.2020102@hhs.nl> Hi all, As also discussed in another thread, but probably not followed by everyone here, hence a new post on this: Hugo Cisneiros is official AWOL, contact has been made and he would respond about his Fedora contributer status on the list, but he hasn't. This means that the following Games are looking for a new owner, some packages already have volunteers who I've added in brackets: guichan (Michael Thomas aka Wart) netpanzer netpanzer-data pengupop tuxpuck xmoto Regards, Hans From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Mon Feb 26 19:31:25 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:31:25 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Re: AWOL maintainer, packages looking for new owner] Message-ID: <45E3358D.4020705@hhs.nl> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: AWOL maintainer, packages looking for new owner Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:05:31 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Ciesla Reply-To: limb at jcomserv.net, Discussion related to Fedora Extras To: Discussion related to Fedora Extras References: <45E33187.7000708 at hhs.nl> I could take tuxpuck and xmoto. > Hi all, > > As also discussed in another thread, but probably not followed by > everyone there, hence a new post in this: Hugo Cisneiros is official > AWOL, contact has been made and he would respond about his Fedora > contributer status on the list, but he hasn't. > > This means that the following packages are looking for a new owner, > some packages already have volunteers who I've added in brackets: > > guichan (Michael Thomas aka Wart) > kerry (Sebastian Vahl) > knemo > metamonitor > netpanzer > netpanzer-data > pengupop > python-ogg (Matthias Saou) > python-vorbis (Matthias Saou) > tuxpuck > xmoto > > Regards, > > Hans > > -- > fedora-extras-list mailing list > fedora-extras-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list > -- novus ordo absurdum -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Feb 26 20:26:23 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:26:23 -0500 Subject: [Bug 197734] Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200702262026.l1QKQNOs024409@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=197734 limb at jcomserv.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |limb at jcomserv.net ------- Additional Comments From limb at jcomserv.net 2007-02-26 15:26 EST ------- Change owner to limb at jcomserv.net (orphaned) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Feb 26 20:27:07 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:27:07 -0500 Subject: [Bug 197734] Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200702262027.l1QKR7eS024543@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=197734 limb at jcomserv.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flag| |fedora-cvs? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Feb 26 20:37:39 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:37:39 -0500 Subject: [Bug 197734] Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200702262037.l1QKbd9N025352@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=197734 wtogami at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flag|fedora-cvs? |fedora-cvs+ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Feb 26 23:58:04 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:58:04 -0500 Subject: [Bug 197734] Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200702262358.l1QNw4Ys009266@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=197734 opensource at till.name changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|opensource at till.name | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Wed Feb 28 13:42:06 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:42:06 +0100 Subject: Anyone interested in pickung up netpanzer Message-ID: <45E586AE.6020802@hhs.nl> Hi all, Sadly Hugo Cisneiros has left us (AWOL) thus netpanzer currently is looking for a new loving maintainers. As this is a popular game it would be a shame to let it get orphaned, So any takers? Notice that pengupop also is still looking for a loving maintainer. Regards, Hans