From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Mon Jun 4 20:34:07 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:34:07 +0200 Subject: nogravity data license Message-ID: <4664773F.8010308@hhs.nl> Hi all, Peter Lemenkov (in the CC) just edited the wiki and moved nogravity from the interesting games to package list to the list of games which we will not package, because the readme in cvs states that the data files are copyrighted: http://nogravity.cvs.sourceforge.net/nogravity/nogravity/README.TXT?revision=1.3&view=markup However the readme was last updated February 13, 2005 and in februari 2006 the datafiles were added to the sourceforge download page, see: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131322 And the release notes of this adding say: "Release Name: 2.0 Notes: Changes: - Added GPL license." See: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=131322&release_id=394567 Which to me clearly means that upstream has relicensed the data under the GPL, also notice that if you download the latest datafiles a GPL COPYING file is included, and that that file is the only included license info in the data tarbal. And for the final proof, here is upstreams FAQ, which states that the gamedata has been relicensed under the GPL as of the 2.0 gamedata release: "You state on the download page "No Gravity is free of charge, covered under the GPL license [...]". Well, look, if you say No Gravity (whichever spelling is right), it means all of it, which I learned isn't true, as the game data apparently is "only" freeware. Source code is GPL 2.0. Game data is under GPL (big changes compared with version 1.99)" See: http://www.realtech-vr.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=361 So I really so no problem here, still to be really sure I'm asking here, anyone got any objections to me moving this back to the "interesting games" list? Regards, Hans p.s. bpepple, I added you the CC as I saw on the nogravity forums you were interested in packaging it back when the data was still merely freeware. From lemenkov at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 20:36:52 2007 From: lemenkov at gmail.com (Peter Lemenkov) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 00:36:52 +0400 Subject: nogravity data license In-Reply-To: <4664773F.8010308@hhs.nl> References: <4664773F.8010308@hhs.nl> Message-ID: 2007/6/5, Hans de Goede : > "Release Name: 2.0 > > Notes: > Changes: - Added GPL license." > See: > http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=131322&release_id=394567146 > > Which to me clearly means that upstream has relicensed the data under the GPL, > also notice that if you download the latest datafiles a GPL COPYING file is > included, and that that file is the only included license info in the data tarbal. [sorry, skipped] > Source code is GPL 2.0. Game data is under GPL (big changes compared with > version 1.99)" > So I really so no problem here, still to be really sure I'm asking here, anyone > got any objections to me moving this back to the "interesting games" list? I haven't any objections. Looks like it's time to reopen BR# 361147 http://www.realtech-vr.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=361147 I've got some spall patches for PowerPC-arch (I still have some troubles running game at linux-ppc). if nobody volunteers to take ownership of NoGravity I'll take it. -- With best regards! From bpepple at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 4 20:38:54 2007 From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:38:54 -0400 Subject: nogravity data license In-Reply-To: <4664773F.8010308@hhs.nl> References: <4664773F.8010308@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <1180989534.8557.8.camel@kennedy> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 22:34 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Peter Lemenkov (in the CC) just edited the wiki and moved nogravity from the > interesting games to package list to the list of games which we will not > package, because the readme in cvs states that the data files are copyrighted: > http://nogravity.cvs.sourceforge.net/nogravity/nogravity/README.TXT?revision=1.3&view=markup > > However the readme was last updated February 13, 2005 and in februari 2006 the > datafiles were added to the sourceforge download page, see: > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131322 > > And the release notes of this adding say: > "Release Name: 2.0 > > Notes: > Changes: - Added GPL license." > See: > http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=131322&release_id=394567 > > Which to me clearly means that upstream has relicensed the data under the GPL, > also notice that if you download the latest datafiles a GPL COPYING file is > included, and that that file is the only included license info in the data tarbal. > > And for the final proof, here is upstreams FAQ, which states that the gamedata > has been relicensed under the GPL as of the 2.0 gamedata release: > "You state on the download page > "No Gravity is free of charge, covered under the GPL license [...]". > Well, look, if you say No Gravity (whichever spelling is right), it means > all of it, which I learned isn't true, as the game data apparently is > "only" freeware. > > Source code is GPL 2.0. Game data is under GPL (big changes compared with > version 1.99)" That's good news. When I was in discussions with them a few years ago, they didn't seem to have much interest in releasing the data under a free license. I don't see any problem with moving back onto the wiki, but it would probably be a good idea to get spot in the loop with regard to the licensing before approving the package. /B -- Brian Pepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Tue Jun 5 14:41:59 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:41:59 +0200 Subject: nogravity data license situation ok-ed by Spot Message-ID: <46657637.1070503@hhs.nl> Hi all, The subject says it all, so feel free to start packaging it, Regards, Hans From wart at kobold.org Mon Jun 11 16:56:23 2007 From: wart at kobold.org (Michael Thomas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:56:23 -0700 Subject: game binaries in /usr/games Message-ID: <466D7EB7.2060109@kobold.org> I think this was an oversight when drafting the Game packaging recommendations: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-packaging/2007-June/msg00065.html Does anyone object to me adding a sentence about not putting binaries in /usr/games? --Mike From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Mon Jun 11 17:01:51 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:01:51 +0200 Subject: game binaries in /usr/games In-Reply-To: <466D7EB7.2060109@kobold.org> References: <466D7EB7.2060109@kobold.org> Message-ID: <466D7FFF.1090408@hhs.nl> Michael Thomas wrote: > I think this was an oversight when drafting the Game packaging > recommendations: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-packaging/2007-June/msg00065.html > > Does anyone object to me adding a sentence about not putting binaries in > /usr/games? > Not All, Good idea! Regards, Hans From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Wed Jun 13 07:14:22 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:14:22 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: Orphaning nexuiz] Message-ID: <466F994E.10602@hhs.nl> Hi all, You probably already saw this, still just to make sure here it is again, Regards, Hans -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Orphaning nexuiz Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:46:34 +0200 From: Adrian Reber Reply-To: List for Fedora Package Maintainers To: fedora-maintainers at redhat.com I have not used nexuiz for a long time and I am therefore orphaning nexuiz and nexuiz-data. Adrian -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers From limb at jcomserv.net Wed Jun 20 11:13:07 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:13:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Nexuiz Message-ID: <9191.65.192.24.164.1182337987.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> I've built the newest Nexuiz and -data for devel. If anyone would like to test it, I would be appreciative, as my only 3D-capable hardware has. . .issues. If I don't hear back in a few days I'll built for f-7 and leave it in updates-testing for awhile. Thanks! Jon -- novus ordo absurdum From limb at jcomserv.net Wed Jun 20 15:07:28 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:07:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Odd build problem Message-ID: <59034.65.192.24.164.1182352048.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> I'm trying to build the new version of xmoto, which now requires sqlite-devel. I've added the BR, tested on f-7, and it was fine. My build fails: checking for main in -lsqlite3... no configure: error: "Linking against sqlite3 failed." error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.5106 (%build) It has been failing on x86_64, and I don't know if it's really a _64 problem, or if it's an sqlite problem and it's just trying _64 first. Anyone have any thoughts, or similar experiences? Koji link: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=43519 Jon Ciesla -- novus ordo absurdum From limb at jcomserv.net Thu Jun 21 15:47:18 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Nexuiz In-Reply-To: <9191.65.192.24.164.1182337987.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> References: <9191.65.192.24.164.1182337987.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Message-ID: <25944.65.192.24.164.1182440838.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> I've now built Nexuiz for f-7, and requested a push for updates-testing. Since Nexuiz-data is noarch and not disttag-ed, how do I make it available in f-7 updates-testing and so forth? > I've built the newest Nexuiz and -data for devel. If anyone would like to > test it, I would be appreciative, as my only 3D-capable hardware has. . > .issues. If I don't hear back in a few days I'll built for f-7 and leave > it in updates-testing for awhile. > > Thanks! > > Jon > > -- > novus ordo absurdum > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -- novus ordo absurdum From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Wed Jun 27 15:07:45 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:07:45 +0200 Subject: Odd build problem In-Reply-To: <59034.65.192.24.164.1182352048.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> References: <59034.65.192.24.164.1182352048.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Message-ID: <46827D41.6060207@hhs.nl> Jon Ciesla wrote: > I'm trying to build the new version of xmoto, which now requires > sqlite-devel. I've added the BR, tested on f-7, and it was fine. My > build fails: > > checking for main in -lsqlite3... no > configure: error: "Linking against sqlite3 failed." > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.5106 (%build) > > It has been failing on x86_64, and I don't know if it's really a _64 > problem, or if it's an sqlite problem and it's just trying _64 first. > > Anyone have any thoughts, or similar experiences? > > Koji link: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=43519 > > Jon Ciesla > Is this still a problem? Ifso I can try to reproduce it at my 64 bit machine at home and see if I can fix it. Regards, Hans