From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Mar 2 07:53:40 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:53:40 +0100 Subject: Final list of new owners for Hugo Cisneiros' packages Message-ID: <45E7D804.9010907@hhs.nl> Hi all, I believe this is the final list: guichan => Michael Thomas (wart at kobold dot org) kerry => Sebastian Vahl (fedora at deadbabylon dot de) knemo => orphaned metamonitor => orphaned netpanzer => Jon Ciesla (limb at jcomserv dot net) * ** netpanzer-data => Jon Ciesla (limb at jcomserv dot net) * ** pengupop => Jon Ciesla (limb at jcomserv dot net) * ** python-ogg => Matthias Saou (matthias at rpmforge dot net) python-vorbis => Matthias Saou (matthias at rpmforge dot net) tuxpuck => Jon Ciesla (limb at jcomserv dot net) ** xmoto => Jon Ciesla (limb at jcomserv dot net) ** * and Xavier Lamien aka SmootherFrOgZ (lxtnow at gmail dot com) as comaintainer ** These have already been updated in owners.list If no-one objects soon I'll send this list to a CVS-admin to make all the necessary changes to owners.list . Regards, Hans From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sat Mar 3 10:23:10 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:23:10 +0100 Subject: Catagorized Game submenus for GNOME -> solved Message-ID: <45E94C8E.8000203@hhs.nl> Hi all, See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 I need to write some more about the details of this, but I don't have time for that right now, in the mean while take a look, Regards, Hans From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Mar 3 19:13:00 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:13:00 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703031913.l23JD0oa009898@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 wart at kobold.org changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-games-list at redhat.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sun Mar 4 09:46:02 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:46:02 +0100 Subject: Howto select proper Categories for .desktop files for games Message-ID: <45EA955A.8090806@hhs.nl> Hi all, As I already wrote yesterday I've got categorized game submenus for GNOME working / finished, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 For the review request. Know for this to be truly useful for many games the Categories field of the .desktop file will need to be updated. So first some more info on how the Categories field is supposed to work, the document on this is: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html The most important thing to know is that there are a couple of Main Categories, and that each .desktop file must contain at least one of the Main Categories in its Categories field, thus this is _wrong_: Categories=ArcadeGame; Right would be: Categories=Game;ArcadeGame; Also notice that there is no Application in the Categories field as its often seen, Application is not a valid Category, and X-Fedora is allowed, but useless, so also don't use that. Besides containing at least one of the Main Categories and preferable exactly one, the Categories field may also include several Additional Categories. Valid additional Categories for an application with as Main Category Game are: Emulator ActionGame AdventureGame ArcadeGame BoardGame BlocksGame CardGame KidsGame LogicGame RolePlaying Simulation SportsGame StrategyGame If you install the games-menus package, then the game menu of GNOME will get a separate submenu for each of these Additional Categories. So in order to clean-up the game-menu, each game .desktop file should contain: Categories=Game;AdditionalCategory; And then all RPG's would show up in the Role Playing Games submenu (if game-menus is installed), crack-attack would show up under Blocks Games, etc. However, unfortunately, live isn't that simple, KDE already comes pre configured with games-submenus for some of the additional categories, but not for all of them, KDE by default has submenus for: ArcadeGame BoardGame CardGame KidsGame LogicGame StrategyGame And thus is missing quite a few. Note that games-menus has been design to cooperate with the existing kde submenus and that installing it will give kde submenus for _all_ additional categories, just like under gnome, without showing some submenus twice. The problem is however the kde case without games-menus installed, because then there are no submenus for _all_ additional categories, this has caused many .desktop files to only include the additional categories which are used by KDE. The biggest "offender" in this case is ArcadeGame, on my system with games-menus installed the Arcade submenu won't fit! Many games listed under arcade games are not truely arcade games, games like pacman, galaxian and 1942 clones are in my vision the true arcade games. However just removing ArcadeGame as sub category and adding a more appropriate one like ActionGame, would move the game under plain KDE from the Arcade submenu to the main Games menu. To lower the number of games in the Arcade submenu and to allow coexisting with plain KDE, I've made the Arcade submenu from games-menu only contain games which have ArcadeGame as category and do _not_ have any other additional (game related) categories. Thus for a game which now has: Categories=Game;ArcadeGame; But which really is an action game, but you still want it to show up under Arcade in the plain KDE case, you can write: Categories=Game;ArcadeGame;ActionGame Then it will show up under the Arcade menu with plain KDE and directly under the games menu with plain GNOME, and when games-menus is installed it will show up in the Action Games menu under both. Notice that ActionGame is a similar very popular additional category Thus I've done the same for the Action Games submenu, it will only contain games which have ActionGame as category and do _not_ have any other additional (game related) categories. The exception here is ArcadeGame, if a game is both ArcadeGame and ActionGame according to its Categories field it will not be hidden from both menus because it contains an other additional category, it will show up under Action Games then. Well thats it, a braindump of what I've done in / with games-menu and why, I hope this is understandable if not ask questions. Regards, Hans From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Mar 4 12:25:34 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703041225.l24CPYcn000708@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 mr.ecik at gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mr.ecik at gmail.com ------- Additional Comments From mr.ecik at gmail.com 2007-03-04 07:25 EST ------- ** Package should own %{_datadir}/desktop-directories directory since it will remain unowned if someone doesn't have gnome-menus nor kdebase installed ** rpmlint complains don't look important ** The much more important thing for me would be translating this package. In my opinion we should try to make translations as many as it's possible, because it doesn't look fine if I have some categories in Polish and the rest in English. ** Is there anything we shall do with URL tag? Maybe we could put your last fedora-games-list mail somewhere on the wiki and link to it, couldn't we? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sun Mar 4 15:24:02 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:24:02 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703041524.l24FO2f7007171@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 musuruan at gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |musuruan at gmail.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Mar 5 12:14:39 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 07:14:39 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703051214.l25CEdLg022657@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl 2007-03-05 07:14 EST ------- (In reply to comment #1) > ** Package should own %{_datadir}/desktop-directories directory since it will > remain unowned if someone doesn't have gnome-menus nor kdebase installed > Good point, will fix. > ** The much more important thing for me would be translating this package. In > my opinion we should try to make translations as many as it's possible, because > it doesn't look fine if I have some categories in Polish and the rest in > English. > Agreed, feel free to send a patch with Polish translations, if all reading this translate it into their native language, then others will have to follow over time. > ** Is there anything we shall do with URL tag? Maybe we could put your last > fedora-games-list mail somewhere on the wiki and link to it, couldn't we? Good idea, I could change the link to: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Mar 5 12:22:47 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 07:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703051222.l25CMlmb022972@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl 2007-03-05 07:22 EST ------- For anyone interested in reviewing this, see: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html For a lot more info on this. So anyone interested in reviewing this? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Mon Mar 5 12:28:57 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:28:57 +0100 Subject: Getting more packers for the Games SIG Message-ID: <45EC0D09.90003@hhs.nl> Hi, I already wrote about this in my Games SIG "State of the Union", but I believe we need to get more packagers / contributers into the game (pun intended). There are still a lot of good games out there to package and most of us carry a full load of games already, so any ideas / suggestions? Regards, Hans From wayward4now at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 16:00:11 2007 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:00:11 -0500 Subject: Getting more packers for the Games SIG In-Reply-To: <45EC0D09.90003@hhs.nl> References: <45EC0D09.90003@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <1173110411.23611.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 13:28 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > I already wrote about this in my Games SIG "State of the Union", but I believe > we need to get more packagers / contributers into the game (pun intended). > > There are still a lot of good games out there to package and most of us carry a > full load of games already, so any ideas / suggestions? I and several other FC users are still panging away at Croquet to get it to run under Linux. Once I can get that to happen, I'd volunteer to shove it into an rpm. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================ From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Mar 5 18:45:31 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:45:31 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703051845.l25IjVg2019586@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From mr.ecik at gmail.com 2007-03-05 13:45 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=149278) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=149278&action=view) Polish translation patch Polish translations of all untranslated categories. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Mar 5 18:52:06 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:52:06 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703051852.l25Iq684019942@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From mr.ecik at gmail.com 2007-03-05 13:51 EST ------- (In reply to comment #3) > For a lot more info on this. So anyone interested in reviewing this? > I'm interested in reviewing if you fix things I mentioned above. Also I think that we can get rid of rpmlint no-documentation warning by including https:// www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html as a README. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Mar 5 19:04:22 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:04:22 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703051904.l25J4Mui020641@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From wart at kobold.org 2007-03-05 14:04 EST ------- Is there a plan to get this integrated into the gnome-menus (redhat-menus?) and/or kde-menus(?) packages? In the long term that seems like the right place to put these menus. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Mar 5 19:22:26 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:22:26 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703051922.l25JMQ0d022445@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl 2007-03-05 14:22 EST ------- (In reply to comment #5) > (In reply to comment #3) > > For a lot more info on this. So anyone interested in reviewing this? > > > > I'm interested in reviewing if you fix things I mentioned above. Also I think > that we can get rid of rpmlint no-documentation warning by including https:// > www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html as a README. Okay, I usually wait for a complete review (which most of the times turns up more things to fix) and then fix everything in one go, but if you want a fixed version first let me know and I'll create a version with the things mentioned sofar fixed. (In reply to comment #6) > Is there a plan to get this integrated into the gnome-menus (redhat-menus?) > and/or kde-menus(?) packages? In the long term that seems like the right place > to put these menus. Well for people who do not install a gazillion games this isn't needed, and I foresee huge resistance to making this a standard part of xxx-menus . So I'm not going todo that, but if someone else wants to try I won't stop him :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Mar 5 19:51:37 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:51:37 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703051951.l25Jpbha025326@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From musuruan at gmail.com 2007-03-05 14:51 EST ------- What about following this article for translations? Wouldn't it be easier to maintain? http://www.redhat.com/magazine/013nov05/features/freedesktop/ I hope it is still actual though. Andrea. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Mar 6 12:18:29 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:18:29 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703061218.l26CITpP015320@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl 2007-03-06 07:18 EST ------- The idea of translating .desktop files like this, is that you can then generate one .po(t) file for your entire application, so for both translation of strings in c-code and in other places. So that the translaters have a single po file to work with. Since all we have is a few .directory files I think this is overkill, just straight editing is way easier IMHO. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Tue Mar 6 15:03:02 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:03:02 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703061503.l26F324P029673@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 ------- Additional Comments From musuruan at gmail.com 2007-03-06 10:02 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=149339) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=149339&action=view) Italian translation Here there is the Italian translation for the menus. Andrea. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Wed Mar 7 09:21:47 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:21:47 +0100 Subject: UltimateStunts packaged but problems with sound In-Reply-To: <1171667734.332.21.camel@eagle.danny.cz> References: <1171667734.332.21.camel@eagle.danny.cz> Message-ID: <45EE842B.1000908@hhs.nl> Dan Hor?k wrote: > Hello, > > I have prepared a package with UltimateStunts - a remake of famous DOS > game called Stunts > (http://www.ultimatestunts.nl/index.php?page=0&lang=en). Only the spec > file is available at http://fedora.danny.cz/ultimatestunts.spec , srpm > will be uploaded later due some problems with my Internet connection. > Everything looks good - it is under GPL, it compiles on FC6/x86_64 and > in mock for Development/i386, tools can be run etc. But the game itself > has some problem with loading sounds in wav files via the OpenAL/ALUT > libraries. If there is anybody familiar with these sound libraries, > please take a look. The errors are here: > Hi, I've been doing some debugging on this and the problem is that playSong (which gets called when sound is initialised to play the first song), calls setSample on an SoundObject created from a .ogg, then setSample in turn calls CSndSample::attachToChannel, which calls alSourcei(x, AL_BUFFER, m_Buffer); this alSourcei call fails setting alError to "al invalid enum value". Now later in the game when the sound data gets loaded alutCreateBufferFromFile() gets called and alutCreateBufferFromFile() is one of a few alut functions which checks to see if there have been no previous alError's before it was called and if there were previous error aborts with the: "There was already an AL error on entry to an ALUT function" We can work around this problem in 2 ways: 1) call alGetError() after the alSourcei(...) in CSndSample::attachToChannel 2) call alGetError() before alutCreateBufferFromFile(...) in sndsample.cpp I've choosen to go with method 2, as that will also work around alerror's being thrown elsewhere (although I've not encountered this situation). The proper fix would be to fix the code so that alSourcei() does not signal an error condition, but my understanding of the code is not good enough for that. It would also be a very good idea to call (and check the result of) alGetError() after each al call, printing a message if an al call fails, that would have actually fixed this problem, and at the same made the developers aware that there is a problem. Error checking is good! I've attached a patch with wotkaround 2. Please send this mail upstream so that they can do a proper fix. Regards, Hans -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ultimatestunts-0701-alerror.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 620 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Mar 7 17:25:54 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:25:54 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703071725.l27HPscc012756@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 mr.ecik at gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO AssignedTo|nobody at fedoraproject.org |mr.ecik at gmail.com Flag| |fedora-review?, | |needinfo?(j.w.r.degoede at hhs. | |nl) ------- Additional Comments From mr.ecik at gmail.com 2007-03-07 12:25 EST ------- REVIEW ** Tarball contains license text so include it into package ** Package should require hicolor-icon-theme or own %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor ** rpmlint louds: W: games-menus no-documentation W: games-menus non-conffile-in-etc /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/games- categories.menu Apart from COPYING, you can also include one of your last fedora-games-list mails as a README (but only a license is MUST) We can safely omit the second warning. And the things I've written about before. Change URL tag, own %{_datadir}/ desktop-directories etc. Also, if "sources" aren't available anywhere, add a comment that we're an upstream to clarify things. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Mar 9 15:15:48 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:15:48 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703091515.l29FFmdP028708@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Flag|needinfo?(j.w.r.degoede at hhs.| |nl) | ------- Additional Comments From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl 2007-03-09 10:15 EST ------- All fixed, thanks for the translations! Spec URL: http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/games-menus.spec SRPM URL: http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/games-menus-0.2-1.fc7.src.rpm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Mar 9 15:19:56 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:19:56 +0100 Subject: games-menus feedback wanted Message-ID: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> HI all, I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as atleast 2 people here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must say that I'm a bit disappointed about the lack of feedback. So please do a: rpm -ivh http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/games-menus-0.2-1.fc7.noarch.rpm Click on your menu goto games and enjoy. Also we should start fixing our packages for games which show up in a strange place and start filing bugs against other peoples packages, again for more info on how to properly use the Categories field see: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html Thanks & Regards, Hans From limb at jcomserv.net Fri Mar 9 15:26:03 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:26:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: games-menus feedback wanted In-Reply-To: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> References: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <31998.65.192.24.190.1173453963.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> That's very nice. I like the layout. Sorry I didn't participate, I was down with a cold and away from email. I had over 600 when I got back, just now getting through it. :) > HI all, > > I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as atleast 2 > people > here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must say that I'm a bit > disappointed > about the lack of feedback. > > So please do a: > rpm -ivh > http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/games-menus-0.2-1.fc7.noarch.rpm > > Click on your menu goto games and enjoy. Also we should start fixing our > packages for games which show up in a strange place and start filing bugs > against other peoples packages, again for more info on how to properly use > the > Categories field see: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html > > Thanks & Regards, > > Hans > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -- novus ordo absurdum From tibbs at math.uh.edu Fri Mar 9 15:55:48 2007 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 09 Mar 2007 09:55:48 -0600 Subject: games-menus feedback wanted In-Reply-To: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> References: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> Message-ID: >>>>> "HdG" == Hans de Goede writes: HdG> I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as HdG> atleast 2 people here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must HdG> say that I'm a bit disappointed about the lack of feedback. Erm, well, it must have been nearly a year since I last thought about it, and at the moment I'm knee deep in core merge reviews and expect to stay that way for quite some time. I'm still at FC5 on the desktop; any chance that your package will work there? - J< From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sat Mar 10 00:12:41 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:12:41 -0500 Subject: games-menus feedback wanted In-Reply-To: References: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <45F1F7F9.5010108@hhs.nl> Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>>>>> "HdG" == Hans de Goede writes: > > HdG> I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as > HdG> atleast 2 people here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must > HdG> say that I'm a bit disappointed about the lack of feedback. > > Erm, well, it must have been nearly a year since I last thought about > it, and at the moment I'm knee deep in core merge reviews and expect > to stay that way for quite some time. > > I'm still at FC5 on the desktop; any chance that your package will > work there? Sortoff, you will get the submenus, but all games will also still be in the main menu. This is a redhat-menus bug which is fixed in an FC-6 update (after a BZ entry by me). Regards, Hans From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Mar 9 18:58:07 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:58:07 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703091858.l29Iw7pW017329@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 mr.ecik at gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flag|fedora-review? |fedora-review+ ------- Additional Comments From mr.ecik at gmail.com 2007-03-09 13:57 EST ------- Everything looks fine for me. Approved. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Fri Mar 9 19:01:25 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:01:25 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703091901.l29J1PhR017603@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flag| |fedora-cvs? ------- Additional Comments From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl 2007-03-09 14:01 EST ------- New Package CVS Request ======================= Package Name: games-menus Short Description: Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu Owners: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Branches: FC-6 devel InitialCC: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From wart at kobold.org Fri Mar 9 19:35:55 2007 From: wart at kobold.org (Michael Thomas) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:35:55 -0800 Subject: games-menus feedback wanted In-Reply-To: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> References: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <45F1B71B.6090302@kobold.org> Hans de Goede wrote: > HI all, > > I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as atleast 2 > people here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must say that I'm a bit > disappointed about the lack of feedback. > > So please do a: > rpm -ivh > http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/games-menus-0.2-1.fc7.noarch.rpm > > Click on your menu goto games and enjoy. Also we should start fixing our > packages for games which show up in a strange place and start filing > bugs against other peoples packages, again for more info on how to > properly use the Categories field see: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html I've actually been using this for the past week on two separate machines. It's _greatly_ improved the usability of the Games menu, though I had to update a few of my packages to get them located in the right category. :) I'm left with two that I'm not sure how to categorize: neverball: This is a 'roll the ball around a maze and avoid the traps' type of game. it's not really a board game, so maybe 'logic & puzzles' would be the best fit? xpilot: it's like a multiplayer version of asteroids, on steroids. It has the visual appearance of an arcade game, but much more complicated gameplay. suggestions on how to best categorize either of these is welcome. --Mike From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Mar 9 21:03:21 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:03:21 +0100 Subject: games-menus feedback wanted In-Reply-To: <45F1B71B.6090302@kobold.org> References: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> <45F1B71B.6090302@kobold.org> Message-ID: <45F1CB99.5010300@hhs.nl> Michael Thomas wrote: > Hans de Goede wrote: >> HI all, >> >> I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as atleast 2 >> people here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must say that I'm a >> bit disappointed about the lack of feedback. >> >> So please do a: >> rpm -ivh >> http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/games-menus-0.2-1.fc7.noarch.rpm >> >> Click on your menu goto games and enjoy. Also we should start fixing >> our packages for games which show up in a strange place and start >> filing bugs against other peoples packages, again for more info on how >> to properly use the Categories field see: >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html >> > > I've actually been using this for the past week on two separate > machines. It's _greatly_ improved the usability of the Games menu, > though I had to update a few of my packages to get them located in the > right category. :) > Good to hear! > I'm left with two that I'm not sure how to categorize: > > neverball: This is a 'roll the ball around a maze and avoid the traps' > type of game. it's not really a board game, so maybe 'logic & puzzles' > would be the best fit? > Yes good question, I need to fix trackballs too, I gess logic and puzzles is the best choice, shall we put both of them (trackballs and neverball) there? > xpilot: it's like a multiplayer version of asteroids, on steroids. It > has the visual appearance of an arcade game, but much more complicated > gameplay. > Arcade is very crowded, so I would say action. My rule kinda is: If it isn't a straight forward clone of an arcade game -> action. The mean reason for this is because for a while I've focused on packaging true arcade clones and even with games-menus installed my arcade menu has scroll arrows (I still need to recategorize some packages, hopefully that will help). Regards, Hans From wart at kobold.org Fri Mar 9 21:40:55 2007 From: wart at kobold.org (Michael Thomas) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:40:55 -0800 Subject: games-menus feedback wanted In-Reply-To: <45F1CB99.5010300@hhs.nl> References: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> <45F1B71B.6090302@kobold.org> <45F1CB99.5010300@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <45F1D467.8090509@kobold.org> Hans de Goede wrote: > > > Michael Thomas wrote: >> Hans de Goede wrote: >>> HI all, >>> >>> I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as atleast >>> 2 people here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must say that I'm a >>> bit disappointed about the lack of feedback. >>> >>> So please do a: >>> rpm -ivh >>> http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/games-menus-0.2-1.fc7.noarch.rpm >>> >>> Click on your menu goto games and enjoy. Also we should start fixing >>> our packages for games which show up in a strange place and start >>> filing bugs against other peoples packages, again for more info on >>> how to properly use the Categories field see: >>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-games-list/2007-March/msg00003.html >>> >> >> I've actually been using this for the past week on two separate >> machines. It's _greatly_ improved the usability of the Games menu, >> though I had to update a few of my packages to get them located in the >> right category. :) >> > > Good to hear! > >> I'm left with two that I'm not sure how to categorize: >> >> neverball: This is a 'roll the ball around a maze and avoid the >> traps' type of game. it's not really a board game, so maybe 'logic & >> puzzles' would be the best fit? >> > > Yes good question, I need to fix trackballs too, I gess logic and > puzzles is the best choice, shall we put both of them (trackballs and > neverball) there? That would work for me. I'm updating neverball now. >> xpilot: it's like a multiplayer version of asteroids, on steroids. >> It has the visual appearance of an arcade game, but much more >> complicated gameplay. >> > > Arcade is very crowded, so I would say action. My rule kinda is: > If it isn't a straight forward clone of an arcade game -> action. > > The mean reason for this is because for a while I've focused on > packaging true arcade clones and even with games-menus installed my > arcade menu has scroll arrows (I still need to recategorize some > packages, hopefully that will help). I'll go ahead and put both Action and Arcade, to be more descriptive, even though this will still leave it in the Action menu. I see that wormux is also cluttering up the ArcadeGame menu. I'll move this to 'Strategy' instead. --Wart From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Mar 10 04:49:53 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:49:53 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703100449.l2A4nruL024425@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 petersen at redhat.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flag|fedora-cvs? |fedora-cvs+ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla at redhat.com Sat Mar 10 10:14:56 2007 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Bug 230831] Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703101014.l2AAEuqL007356@bugzilla.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230831 j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |CLOSED Resolution| |NEXTRELEASE ------- Additional Comments From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl 2007-03-10 05:14 EST ------- Thanks for the review! Imported and build, closing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 20:20:58 2007 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:20:58 -0500 Subject: games-menus feedback wanted In-Reply-To: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> References: <45F17B1C.8020707@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <1173558058.7794.1.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 16:19 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > HI all, > > I've been working hard on getting game submenus realised, as atleast 2 people > here wanted them (Tibbs and Wart), and I must say that I'm a bit disappointed > about the lack of feedback. You did a very good job, kudos. Sorry, been busy but I rebuilt the srpn and it installed without a hitch. I like the various categories and all the games that I have installed found their way to their appropriate slots. Again, it worked nicely and has function. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================ From che666 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:35:19 2007 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:35:19 +0100 Subject: Getting more packers for the Games SIG In-Reply-To: <1173110411.23611.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <45EC0D09.90003@hhs.nl> <1173110411.23611.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: 2007/3/5, Ric Moore : > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 13:28 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I already wrote about this in my Games SIG "State of the Union", but I believe > > we need to get more packagers / contributers into the game (pun intended). > > > > There are still a lot of good games out there to package and most of us carry a > > full load of games already, so any ideas / suggestions? > > I and several other FC users are still panging away at Croquet to get it > to run under Linux. Once I can get that to happen, I'd volunteer to > shove it into an rpm. Ric > can you give a link to the website / upstream and id take a look at it. thanks, Rudolf Kastl p.s. if you are interested in more games i have a lot of stuff on my local hd that is partially fixed up to be packageable. just contact me offline if you are interested. > -- > ================================================ > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ > http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar > http://www.wayward4now.net > ================================================ > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Thu Mar 15 11:14:22 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:14:22 +0100 Subject: Getting more packers for the Games SIG In-Reply-To: References: <45EC0D09.90003@hhs.nl> <1173110411.23611.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <45F92A8E.8050707@hhs.nl> Rudolf Kastl wrote: > > p.s. if you are interested in more games i have a lot of stuff on my > local hd that is partially fixed up to be packageable. just contact me > offline if you are interested. > I am / we are always interested in more (worthwhile) games, if they meet the Fedora guidelines for free software. Can you put them somewhere public and send a link to the list? Regards, hans From che666 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 13:27:56 2007 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:27:56 +0100 Subject: Getting more packers for the Games SIG In-Reply-To: <45F92A8E.8050707@hhs.nl> References: <45EC0D09.90003@hhs.nl> <1173110411.23611.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <45F92A8E.8050707@hhs.nl> Message-ID: 2007/3/15, Hans de Goede : > Rudolf Kastl wrote: > > > > p.s. if you are interested in more games i have a lot of stuff on my > > local hd that is partially fixed up to be packageable. just contact me > > offline if you are interested. > > > > I am / we are always interested in more (worthwhile) games, if they meet the > Fedora guidelines for free software. > > Can you put them somewhere public and send a link to the list? i can hans but it will take a few days atleast until i have time to do so. and yeah most of them meet the license requirements. regards, Rudolf Kastl p.s. thanks hans for all the great work. > > Regards, > > hans > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 04:30:32 2007 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:30:32 -0400 Subject: Getting more packers for the Games SIG In-Reply-To: References: <45EC0D09.90003@hhs.nl> <1173110411.23611.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <1174019432.2998.127.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 10:35 +0100, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > 2007/3/5, Ric Moore : > > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 13:28 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I already wrote about this in my Games SIG "State of the Union", but I believe > > > we need to get more packagers / contributers into the game (pun intended). > > > > > > There are still a lot of good games out there to package and most of us carry a > > > full load of games already, so any ideas / suggestions? > > > > I and several other FC users are still panging away at Croquet to get it > > to run under Linux. Once I can get that to happen, I'd volunteer to > > shove it into an rpm. Ric > > > > can you give a link to the website / upstream and id take a look at it. Sure, the latest that practically works is at: http://www.croquetcollaborative.org/wordpress/?page_id=5 ... you'll have to chmod +x the file "Croquet.sh" and all the binaries in the ../bin/linuxi686/ directory. They still haven't gotten the hang of file permissions. This one does work if you have the mesa libs installed. It segfaults just using nVidia drivers for hardware mesa / openGL. Maybe you can figure it out?? .. and for anyone idly interest in virtual worlds, check this page out. http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Current_Projects#Non-Player_Characters_.28NPCs.29 > > p.s. if you are interested in more games i have a lot of stuff on my > local hd that is partially fixed up to be packageable. just contact me > offline if you are interested. I can give it a shot! I need to learn how to package up RPMs anyway. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================ From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sun Mar 18 15:34:47 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:34:47 +0100 Subject: Vegastrike Message-ID: <45FD5C17.6080007@hhs.nl> Hi all, Vegastrike is on the sig wiki page as game of interest, according to the entry on the wiki it is mostely packaged up. 2 questions: 1) anyone got a pointer to the mostly packaged up work ? 2) anyone willing todo some testing on this if I finish the package? Regards, Hans From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sun Mar 18 15:36:35 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:36:35 +0100 Subject: Any games bugs open Message-ID: <45FD5C83.5010707@hhs.nl> Hi all, I recently stumbled over a bug in nethack-vultures which was easy to fix for me, so I wonder are there any other games bugs open, for which the maintainer could use some help getting them fixed? As always I'm more then willing to help to keep the games in Fedora of top notch quality! Regards, Hans From wart at kobold.org Sun Mar 18 17:02:23 2007 From: wart at kobold.org (Wart) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:02:23 -0700 Subject: Any games bugs open In-Reply-To: <45FD5C83.5010707@hhs.nl> References: <45FD5C83.5010707@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <45FD709F.9090100@kobold.org> Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently stumbled over a bug in nethack-vultures which was easy to fix > for me, so I wonder are there any other games bugs open, for which the > maintainer could use some help getting them fixed? Well, since you asked, I could use some advice on: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225044 I'm not concerned about the update itself, but with the proper way to create a compat-guichan05 package (needed by sear). I've haven't seen any 'best practices' for creating compat packages, so I'm not quite sure of the best way to start on this one. Presumably I'll have to rename the header directory and rename the libraries to make sure they don't conflict with the non-compat package, as well as modify sear to use the new compat header/library names. --Wart From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sun Mar 18 18:38:27 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:38:27 +0100 Subject: Any games bugs open In-Reply-To: <45FD709F.9090100@kobold.org> References: <45FD5C83.5010707@hhs.nl> <45FD709F.9090100@kobold.org> Message-ID: <45FD8723.90000@hhs.nl> Wart wrote: > Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I recently stumbled over a bug in nethack-vultures which was easy to >> fix for me, so I wonder are there any other games bugs open, for which >> the maintainer could use some help getting them fixed? > > Well, since you asked, I could use some advice on: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225044 > > I'm not concerned about the update itself, but with the proper way to > create a compat-guichan05 package (needed by sear). I've haven't seen > any 'best practices' for creating compat packages, so I'm not quite sure > of the best way to start on this one. > > Presumably I'll have to rename the header directory and rename the > libraries to make sure they don't conflict with the non-compat package, > as well as modify sear to use the new compat header/library names. > Hmm, Upstream doesn't do proper soname generation / versioning here. So this is a PITA (just like ogre). And its c++ making ABI breakage even more likely. Anyways I've added a detailed comment to the BZ ticket, lets discuss this further there. Regards, Hans From che666 at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 22:09:05 2007 From: che666 at gmail.com (Rudolf Kastl) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:09:05 +0100 Subject: Vegastrike In-Reply-To: <45FD5C17.6080007@hhs.nl> References: <45FD5C17.6080007@hhs.nl> Message-ID: 2007/3/18, Hans de Goede : > Hi all, > > Vegastrike is on the sig wiki page as game of interest, according to the entry > on the wiki it is mostely packaged up. > > 2 questions: > 1) anyone got a pointer to the mostly packaged up work ? not me, sorry. > 2) anyone willing todo some testing on this if I finish the package? ... of course! > > Regards, > > Hans regards, Rudolf Kastl > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > From seg at haxxed.com Mon Mar 26 09:44:44 2007 From: seg at haxxed.com (Callum Lerwick) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:44:44 -0500 Subject: Second Life client submitted for review Message-ID: <1174902284.4609.23.camel@max.booze> It is done! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=233946 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Mar 30 19:45:41 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:45:41 +0200 Subject: Looking for reviewer for asc and vegastrike Message-ID: <460D68E5.9090108@hhs.nl> Hi all, I've spend a conciderable amount of time and energy packaging up asc and vegastrike, as these both have been on the wishlist for quite a while. It would be nice if someone would be so kind to review them, so that they can actually get published. Regards, Hans From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Mar 30 19:46:48 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:46:48 +0200 Subject: Games livecd / dvd Message-ID: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> Hi all, I think it would be a great idea to use the new tools to create a Fedora 7 games livecd + dvd. However I'm currently way to busy to also start a project like this. Any takers? Regards, Hans From limb at jcomserv.net Fri Mar 30 19:38:22 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:38:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Looking for reviewer for asc and vegastrike In-Reply-To: <460D68E5.9090108@hhs.nl> References: <460D68E5.9090108@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <39717.65.192.24.190.1175283502.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> I'll do asc. I can start early next week. > Hi all, > > I've spend a conciderable amount of time and energy packaging up asc and > vegastrike, as these both have been on the wishlist for quite a while. > > It would be nice if someone would be so kind to review them, so that they > can > actually get published. > > Regards, > > Hans > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -- novus ordo absurdum From limb at jcomserv.net Fri Mar 30 19:45:13 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:45:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Be what criteria would we limit content? I assume everything would fit on a DVD, but for the CD we'd probably have to winnow it down to The Best of The Best, a good sampling of types that show off The State of Fedora Gaming(r). Maybe a list compiled from votes by the members of this list? We could all pick our favorites. Or perhaps I'm over-thinking this. I'll play around with it if I get time, which I may soon. Send the list must-haves. Or, better yet, Hans could create a page for this in the wiki. Jon > Hi all, > > I think it would be a great idea to use the new tools to create a Fedora 7 > games livecd + dvd. However I'm currently way to busy to also start a > project > like this. > > Any takers? > > Regards, > > Hans > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -- novus ordo absurdum From wart at kobold.org Fri Mar 30 19:57:44 2007 From: wart at kobold.org (Michael Thomas) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:57:44 -0700 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Message-ID: <460D6BB8.1040504@kobold.org> A couple of things to consider with a games livecd: Would you want to include game servers? This might be more appropriate for a custom games spin, but not a livecd due to the extra configuration that might be required. Include 3D games? Some 3D games have really poor performance unless you use the binary-only drivers from your graphics card vendor, which wouldn't be allowed for a Fedora cd/dvd. Some game content, even the best of the best, can be in excess of 70MB. For example, wesnoth (a must-have) is 94MB. That's 1/8 of a 750MB CD. Clearly you wouldn't be able to include many large-content games on a livecd. I would only consider creating a livedvd. --Wart Jon Ciesla wrote: > Be what criteria would we limit content? I assume everything would fit on > a DVD, but for the CD we'd probably have to winnow it down to The Best of > The Best, a good sampling of types that show off The State of Fedora > Gaming(r). > > Maybe a list compiled from votes by the members of this list? We could > all pick our favorites. > > Or perhaps I'm over-thinking this. > > I'll play around with it if I get time, which I may soon. Send the list > must-haves. Or, better yet, Hans could create a page for this in the > wiki. > > Jon > >> Hi all, >> >> I think it would be a great idea to use the new tools to create a Fedora 7 >> games livecd + dvd. However I'm currently way to busy to also start a >> project >> like this. >> >> Any takers? >> >> Regards, >> >> Hans >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-games-list mailing list >> Fedora-games-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list >> > > From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Fri Mar 30 21:09:33 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:09:33 +0200 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Message-ID: <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> Jon Ciesla wrote: > Be what criteria would we limit content? I assume everything would fit on > a DVD, but for the CD we'd probably have to winnow it down to The Best of > The Best, a good sampling of types that show off The State of Fedora > Gaming(r). > > Maybe a list compiled from votes by the members of this list? We could > all pick our favorites. > Yes making a list of what to include is somewhat hard. As Wart already said for the cd version, we cannot include many larger games. I think it would be best for the cd to make a selection out of the good small games, and then fill up whats left with the larger ones. > > I'll play around with it if I get time, which I may soon. Send the list > must-haves. Or, better yet, Hans could create a page for this in the > wiki. > A wiki page is a good idea, you should be able to create one just as much as I can. Regards, Hans From chris.stone at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 21:42:46 2007 From: chris.stone at gmail.com (Christopher Stone) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:42:46 -0700 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> Message-ID: Personally I think CDs are an outdated technology, to me it is like a discussion about a livefloppy distro. I vote for a livedvd only, screw the damn CDs. From steve at silug.org Fri Mar 30 22:31:28 2007 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:31:28 -0500 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:42:46PM -0700, Christopher Stone wrote: > Personally I think CDs are an outdated technology, to me it is like a > discussion about a livefloppy distro. > > I vote for a livedvd only, screw the damn CDs. Normally I wouldn't completely agree, but for games? There's no sense even thinking about a live CD. A DVD should have enough space for many, if not all, of the large-ish games. Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From limb at jcomserv.net Fri Mar 30 23:03:23 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:03:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> Works for me. I'll make a wiki page soon and post back here. I think focusing on a DVD is probably wise. On the 3D game front, I see two choices. 1. Eschew 3D games, so all the games included work as well as possible on all available hardare, due to binary drivers, the pragmatic approach. 2. Go all-out and include the best of the 3D games. Then users can use the LiveDVD as a sort of hardware Shibboleth. They can take the DVD to the store, and try out the available hardware, and then buy what works with OSS drivers. Speak against binary-only hardware with the pocketbook. I have a preference. What do you all think? > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:42:46PM -0700, Christopher Stone wrote: >> Personally I think CDs are an outdated technology, to me it is like a >> discussion about a livefloppy distro. >> >> I vote for a livedvd only, screw the damn CDs. > > Normally I wouldn't completely agree, but for games? There's no sense > even thinking about a live CD. A DVD should have enough space for > many, if not all, of the large-ish games. > > Steve > -- > Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. > Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ > Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -- novus ordo absurdum From seg at haxxed.com Sat Mar 31 00:41:36 2007 From: seg at haxxed.com (Callum Lerwick) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:41:36 -0500 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> Message-ID: <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 18:03 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > Works for me. I'll make a wiki page soon and post back here. I think > focusing on a DVD is probably wise. > > On the 3D game front, I see two choices. > > 1. Eschew 3D games, so all the games included work as well as possible on > all available hardare, due to binary drivers, the pragmatic approach. > > 2. Go all-out and include the best of the 3D games. Then users can use > the LiveDVD as a sort of hardware Shibboleth. They can take the DVD to > the store, and try out the available hardware, and then buy what works > with OSS drivers. Speak against binary-only hardware with the pocketbook. > > I have a preference. What do you all think? My Radeon 9600XT works great with the open source driver and in fact fglrx refuses to work on this box. And my laptop has Intel 830M graphics which do a passable job of running OpenArena with the detail set all the way down. And I run Second Life on it, as slow as it may be. Option 2 please. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From steve at silug.org Sat Mar 31 01:45:55 2007 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:45:55 -0500 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 07:41:36PM -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: > Option 2 please. Ditto. Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From steve at silug.org Sat Mar 31 01:56:03 2007 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:56:03 -0500 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> Speaking of games to include, I'd try to include not-quite-games (especially ones that stress 3D hardware), like the space simulators (celestia and stellarium) and some of the edutainment stuff (tuxpaint, tuxtype2, etc.). Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From limb at jcomserv.net Sat Mar 31 02:09:29 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:09:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <16427.216.9.250.6.1175306969.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Agreed. I'd like to make something that would offer something to most age groups, so whatever package has potato guy would be great, I think my 2-year old daughter would love that. :). And I could still have my bzflag. > Speaking of games to include, I'd try to include not-quite-games > (especially ones that stress 3D hardware), like the space simulators > (celestia and stellarium) and some of the edutainment stuff (tuxpaint, > tuxtype2, etc.). > > Steve > -- > Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. > Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ > Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -- novus ordo absurdum From limb at jcomserv.net Sat Mar 31 02:09:34 2007 From: limb at jcomserv.net (Jon Ciesla) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:09:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <22380.216.9.250.6.1175306974.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Agreed. I'd like to make something that would offer something to most age groups, so whatever package has potato guy would be great, I think my 2-year old daughter would love that. :). And I could still have my bzflag. > Speaking of games to include, I'd try to include not-quite-games > (especially ones that stress 3D hardware), like the space simulators > (celestia and stellarium) and some of the edutainment stuff (tuxpaint, > tuxtype2, etc.). > > Steve > -- > Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. > Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ > Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -- novus ordo absurdum From chris.stone at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 02:20:42 2007 From: chris.stone at gmail.com (Christopher Stone) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:20:42 -0700 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <22380.216.9.250.6.1175306974.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> <22380.216.9.250.6.1175306974.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Message-ID: "Utilities" such as dosbox should be included too. I was thinking it would be cool if we could somehow configure kde or gnome or whatever to be game oriented as well. For example, we could have a game oriented desktop wall paper (the tux frag comes to mind). And we could set up rss feeds and news tickers and stuff for game related web sites and so on. I'm not sure how feasable all that extra configuration would be though. From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sat Mar 31 07:10:08 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:10:08 +0200 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <460E0950.2040505@hhs.nl> Steven Pritchard wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 07:41:36PM -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: >> Option 2 please. > > Ditto. > For some strange reason all my machines have cards with can do 3D with OSS drivers, +1 Regards, Hans From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sat Mar 31 07:10:50 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:10:50 +0200 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <460E097A.70403@hhs.nl> Steven Pritchard wrote: > Speaking of games to include, I'd try to include not-quite-games > (especially ones that stress 3D hardware), like the space simulators > (celestia and stellarium) and some of the edutainment stuff (tuxpaint, > tuxtype2, etc.). > If we go dvd, and there is space, edutainment gets a +1 from me, also think gcompris, childsplay . Regards, Hans From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Mar 31 11:32:47 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:32:47 +0200 Subject: Games livecd / dvd In-Reply-To: References: <460D6928.40403@hhs.nl> <40743.65.192.24.190.1175283913.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> <460D7C8D.7050106@hhs.nl> <20070330223128.GA30627@osiris.silug.org> <1843.192.168.0.4.1175295803.squirrel@zanoni> <1175301696.6110.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070331014554.GA823@osiris.silug.org> <20070331015603.GA931@osiris.silug.org> <22380.216.9.250.6.1175306974.squirrel@mail.jcomserv.net> Message-ID: <460E46DF.10200@kanarip.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christopher Stone wrote: > "Utilities" such as dosbox should be included too. > > I was thinking it would be cool if we could somehow configure kde or > gnome or whatever to be game oriented as well. For example, we could > have a game oriented desktop wall paper (the tux frag comes to mind). > And we could set up rss feeds and news tickers and stuff for game > related web sites and so on. > > I'm not sure how feasable all that extra configuration would be though. > If you can get me a package manifest in kickstart-style for all packages you want to see included, and the default desktop background / gnome theme, I'll try and implement it in this tool we're creating. At least you'll know what will be the size of such compose, and I have another use case ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGDkbeKN6f2pNCvwgRAhehAJ0f5cm4HUtfz09laMzLNXfqgIx5oACfeadG wArovqdPGfAAvfDQm9Hwl5o= =1Eae -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From peter at thecodergeek.com Sat Mar 31 17:36:50 2007 From: peter at thecodergeek.com (Peter Gordon) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:36:50 -0700 Subject: Looking for reviewer for asc and vegastrike In-Reply-To: <460D68E5.9090108@hhs.nl> References: <460D68E5.9090108@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <1175362610.3981.0.camel@tuxhugs> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 21:45 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi all, > > I've spend a conciderable amount of time and energy packaging up asc and > vegastrike, as these both have been on the wishlist for quite a while. > > It would be nice if someone would be so kind to review them, so that they can > actually get published. I'll review Vegastrike later today. -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) / FSF & EFF Member GnuPG Public Key ID: 0xFFC19479 / Fingerprint: DD68 A414 56BD 6368 D957 9666 4268 CB7A FFC1 9479 Blog: http://thecodergeek.com/blog/ About: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PeterGordon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sat Mar 31 17:58:11 2007 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:58:11 +0200 Subject: Looking for reviewer for asc and vegastrike In-Reply-To: <1175362610.3981.0.camel@tuxhugs> References: <460D68E5.9090108@hhs.nl> <1175362610.3981.0.camel@tuxhugs> Message-ID: <460EA133.4010404@hhs.nl> Peter Gordon wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 21:45 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've spend a conciderable amount of time and energy packaging up asc and >> vegastrike, as these both have been on the wishlist for quite a while. >> >> It would be nice if someone would be so kind to review them, so that they can >> actually get published. > > I'll review Vegastrike later today. > Thanks! Regards, Hans