From lemenkov at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 07:41:31 2008 From: lemenkov at gmail.com (Peter Lemenkov) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:41:31 +0400 Subject: FYI: Heretic and Hexen re-released under GPL license Message-ID: Hello All. Subj. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=864305 -- With best regards! From tcallawa at redhat.com Tue Sep 9 03:15:31 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:15:31 -0400 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem Message-ID: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi guys, While doing the license tag cleanup, I came across uqm-content, which was marked "Distributable", but when I dug into it, the actual license is Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike. http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/The_Ur-Quan_Masters_Project_FAQ#Under_what_license_is_the_game_released.3F The NonCommercial part is the problem. Unless someone here has documentation showing that the UQM upstream has given us permission to distribute these content files under a different (acceptable to Fedora) license, I'm going to have to block this package in F10. Since the game itself is fine, it looks like we'll need to set it up to autodownload the content (and quickly). ~spot From bruno at wolff.to Tue Sep 9 05:22:12 2008 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 00:22:12 -0500 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080909052212.GA29367@wolff.to> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 23:15:31 -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > Hi guys, > > While doing the license tag cleanup, I came across uqm-content, which > was marked "Distributable", but when I dug into it, the actual license > is Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike. > > http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/The_Ur-Quan_Masters_Project_FAQ#Under_what_license_is_the_game_released.3F > > The NonCommercial part is the problem. > > Unless someone here has documentation showing that the UQM upstream has > given us permission to distribute these content files under a different > (acceptable to Fedora) license, I'm going to have to block this package > in F10. I looked around and it seems the original authors don't want the game data used commercially. I didn't find anything indicating their stance had changed recently. > Since the game itself is fine, it looks like we'll need to set it up to > autodownload the content (and quickly). It should also get pulled from the live games cd as there is little point in having it there if you need to make a large download to play it. From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Tue Sep 9 09:29:02 2008 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:29:02 +0200 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > Hi guys, > > Since the game itself is fine, it looks like we'll need to set it up to > autodownload the content (and quickly). > If anyone needs any help setting up the autodownloader stuff let me know, take a look at bolzplatz2006 for a game currently in Fedora which has the exact same problem and how it uses autodownloader. Regards, Hans From xm4n100 at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 09:30:03 2008 From: xm4n100 at gmail.com (Xavier Naldo) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:30:03 -0500 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: I am not sure where this is going, but it is better to be safe than sorry. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > Hi guys, > > While doing the license tag cleanup, I came across uqm-content, which > was marked "Distributable", but when I dug into it, the actual license > is Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike. > > > http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/The_Ur-Quan_Masters_Project_FAQ#Under_what_license_is_the_game_released.3F > > The NonCommercial part is the problem. > > Unless someone here has documentation showing that the UQM upstream has > given us permission to distribute these content files under a different > (acceptable to Fedora) license, I'm going to have to block this package > in F10. > > Since the game itself is fine, it looks like we'll need to set it up to > autodownload the content (and quickly). > > ~spot > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-games-list mailing list > Fedora-games-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-games-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Tue Sep 9 10:56:46 2008 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:56:46 +0200 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <48C6566E.40008@hhs.nl> Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >>> Since the game itself is fine, it looks like we'll need to set it up to >>> autodownload the content (and quickly). >>> >> If anyone needs any help setting up the autodownloader stuff let me know, >> take a look at bolzplatz2006 for a game currently in Fedora which has the >> exact same problem and how it uses autodownloader. > > I took over this package when another maintainer went AWOL, so this is > as news to me as it is to you. Hans: if you can offer some help, I'd > really appreciate it. Do I need to give you access to the package in > cvs? > Just take a look at how bolzplatz2006 does it, basicly there is a shell script which invokes autodownloader if the files are not there yet and a autodownloader config file. Let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Hans From icon at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 9 10:44:42 2008 From: icon at fedoraproject.org (Konstantin Ryabitsev) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:44:42 -0400 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Since the game itself is fine, it looks like we'll need to set it up to >> autodownload the content (and quickly). >> > > If anyone needs any help setting up the autodownloader stuff let me know, > take a look at bolzplatz2006 for a game currently in Fedora which has the > exact same problem and how it uses autodownloader. I took over this package when another maintainer went AWOL, so this is as news to me as it is to you. Hans: if you can offer some help, I'd really appreciate it. Do I need to give you access to the package in cvs? Cheers, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev Montr?al, Qu?bec From caramba_bk at yahoo.com Wed Sep 10 21:43:46 2008 From: caramba_bk at yahoo.com (caramba_bk at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Supertux freezing mouse pointer Message-ID: <47535.67874.qm@web45712.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello! I have tried the supertux-0.3 package in F10. When you start in fullscreen mode, the mouse pointer soon freeze at its current coordinates, which defaults to the center of the screen. It then stays there and obscures the real content of the window, while there's a new functional pointer created. The only workaround is to quickly after startup move the pointer to any lower corner, so there's only a few pixels of it visible. Do you know if this is a known bug of supertux, or if it's more likely a problem with my X setup? Regards, Nick From tcallawa at redhat.com Wed Sep 10 21:45:29 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:45:29 -0400 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: <48C6566E.40008@hhs.nl> References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> <48C6566E.40008@hhs.nl> Message-ID: <1221083129.22869.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 12:56 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Let me know if you have any questions. I went ahead and started to implement the fix, but in testing it seems that autodownloader only downloads in 8K increments. This thing would literally need to run all day to pull down these content files. Is that expected behavior? ~spot From tibbs at math.uh.edu Wed Sep 10 22:07:24 2008 From: tibbs at math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) Date: 10 Sep 2008 17:07:24 -0500 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: <1221083129.22869.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> <48C6566E.40008@hhs.nl> <1221083129.22869.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: >>>>> "TC" == Tom \"spot\" Callaway writes: TC> I went ahead and started to implement the fix, but in testing it TC> seems that autodownloader only downloads in 8K increments. It just calls urllib.urlretrieve. I don't expect it would be hard to use something more high-performance, but I wouldn't be able to suggest anything. - J< From tcallawa at redhat.com Thu Sep 11 03:12:43 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:12:43 -0400 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> <48C6566E.40008@hhs.nl> <1221083129.22869.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221102763.22869.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 17:07 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "TC" == Tom \"spot\" Callaway writes: > > TC> I went ahead and started to implement the fix, but in testing it > TC> seems that autodownloader only downloads in 8K increments. > > It just calls urllib.urlretrieve. I don't expect it would be hard to > use something more high-performance, but I wouldn't be able to suggest > anything. Never mind. Testing at home on FIOS shows that it was something specific to the internet connection I was using at work. ~spot From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Thu Sep 11 05:38:51 2008 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:38:51 +0200 Subject: uqm-content licensing problem In-Reply-To: <1221083129.22869.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1220930131.5702.616.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48C641DE.5040506@hhs.nl> <48C6566E.40008@hhs.nl> <1221083129.22869.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48C8AEEB.3060501@hhs.nl> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 12:56 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> Let me know if you have any questions. > > I went ahead and started to implement the fix, but in testing it seems > that autodownloader only downloads in 8K increments. This thing would > literally need to run all day to pull down these content files. Is that > expected behavior? > I think the 8k increments are not how it is downloading, but the increment when the callback I use to update the progress bar gets called. If you actually notice that it is not multithreaded but using a callback from a single download thread, then the connection and / or mirror you are using is, erm, not so good. I had this with the id-shareware stuff to when using the official id site, after finding some fast mirrors things where ok. Regards, Hans From bruno at wolff.to Fri Sep 12 14:31:46 2008 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:31:46 -0500 Subject: uqm needs obsoletes? Message-ID: <20080912143146.GA22174@wolff.to> Updating uqm doesn't work in today's rawhide. I suspect some obsoletes are needed otherwise the old content packages aren't being replaced and are pinning the base uwm package at the old version. ---> Package uqm.x86_64 0:0.6.2-6.fc10 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: uqm >= 0.6.0 for package: uqm-content --> Processing Dependency: uqm >= 0.6.0 for package: uqm-content --> Finished Dependency Resolution uqm-content-0.6.0-2.noarch from installed has depsolving problems --> Unresolvable requirement uqm >= 0.6.0 for uqm-content-0.6.0-2.noarch (installed) uqm-content-0.6.0-2.noarch from installed has depsolving problems --> Unresolvable requirement uqm >= 0.6.0 for uqm-content-0.6.0-2.noarch (installed) Skip-broken could not solve problems Error: Missing Dependency: uqm-content = 0.6.0-2 is needed by package uqm-content-3domusic-0.6.0-2.noarch (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: uqm-content = 0.6.0-2 is needed by package uqm-content-voice-0.6.0-2.noarch (installed) From tcallawa at redhat.com Fri Sep 12 15:38:56 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:38:56 -0400 Subject: uqm needs obsoletes? In-Reply-To: <20080912143146.GA22174@wolff.to> References: <20080912143146.GA22174@wolff.to> Message-ID: <1221233936.14378.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 09:31 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Updating uqm doesn't work in today's rawhide. I suspect some obsoletes are > needed otherwise the old content packages aren't being replaced and are pinning > the base uwm package at the old version. Yep. I forgot to Provide/Obsolete the content subpackages. It's fixed in -7. ~spot From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 19 14:36:31 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:06:31 +0530 Subject: Games spin - Attention: maintainers Message-ID: <48D3B8EF.7050400@fedoraproject.org> Hi, I know a couple of people volunteered to help maintain the games spin, please apply for commit access to the git repo at https://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts/ This will allow you to maintain the kickstart files and do branches for releases. Rahul