From bruno at wolff.to Sun May 10 14:28:39 2009 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:28:39 -0500 Subject: Games spin update Message-ID: <20090510142839.GA28965@wolff.to> I missed that Urban Terror and World of Padman need to download content in order to be playable. I don't think this is appropriate for the livedvd and have pulled them from the spin (and updated the spin page). From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun May 10 14:36:14 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:06:14 +0530 Subject: Games spin update In-Reply-To: <20090510142839.GA28965@wolff.to> References: <20090510142839.GA28965@wolff.to> Message-ID: <4A06E65E.60302@fedoraproject.org> On 05/10/2009 07:58 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I missed that Urban Terror and World of Padman need to download content in > order to be playable. I don't think this is appropriate for the livedvd > and have pulled them from the spin (and updated the spin page). As I noted before, check for packages that depend on autodownloader. All of them require additional content to be downloaded. FWIW, the consensus in a previous discussion was that games using autodownloaded can be included in the games spin. You are free to change this as the spin maintainer however. Rahul From cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org Sun May 10 15:01:37 2009 From: cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org (Simon Wesp) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:01:37 +0200 Subject: Games spin update In-Reply-To: <20090510142839.GA28965@wolff.to> References: <20090510142839.GA28965@wolff.to> Message-ID: <20090510170137.7aa8f48c@schafwiese> Bruno Wolff III wrotes: BW> I missed that Urban Terror and World of Padman need to download BW> content in order to be playable. Ehhm, UrT comes with his own modified q3-engine. Why is the dependency from UrT to the q3 package? -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en aus dem sch?nen Hainzell Simon Wesp The G in GNU stands for GNU http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SimonWesp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun May 10 15:10:50 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:40:50 +0530 Subject: Games spin update In-Reply-To: <20090510170137.7aa8f48c@schafwiese> References: <20090510142839.GA28965@wolff.to> <20090510170137.7aa8f48c@schafwiese> Message-ID: <4A06EE7A.8070705@fedoraproject.org> On 05/10/2009 08:31 PM, Simon Wesp wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrotes: > BW> I missed that Urban Terror and World of Padman need to download > BW> content in order to be playable. > > Ehhm, UrT comes with his own modified q3-engine. Why is the dependency > from UrT to the q3 package? IIRC, in Fedora, UrT (among other q3 based games) were modified to work with the system wide q3 engine. Rahul From bruno at wolff.to Sun May 10 16:02:08 2009 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:02:08 -0500 Subject: Games spin update In-Reply-To: <4A06E65E.60302@fedoraproject.org> References: <20090510142839.GA28965@wolff.to> <4A06E65E.60302@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090510160208.GA14747@wolff.to> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 20:06:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/10/2009 07:58 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > I missed that Urban Terror and World of Padman need to download content in > > order to be playable. I don't think this is appropriate for the livedvd > > and have pulled them from the spin (and updated the spin page). > > As I noted before, check for packages that depend on autodownloader. All > of them require additional content to be downloaded. FWIW, the consensus > in a previous discussion was that games using autodownloaded can be > included in the games spin. You are free to change this as the spin > maintainer however. I took your advice previously, but didn't do the check correctly. I forgot to do a recursive check and the two games above depend on quake3 which depends on autodownloader. I ran across the issue when trying out Urban Terror and figured out what probably went wrong when I last looked and then also found World of Padman had been missed. I personally don't think having games which need downloadable content for the games spin is a good idea. I don't think it is so bad that no exceptions could be made. If the size of the needed content is small and the game is particularly unique and good making an exception would be reasonable. From bruno at wolff.to Sun May 10 16:11:12 2009 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:11:12 -0500 Subject: Using autodownloaded data system wide Message-ID: <20090510161112.GB14747@wolff.to> Since the autodownloader stuff came up, I thought I'd ask if there is an easy way to install autodownloaded data system wide for most games that use this feature? I ask because I found that for uqm the data get's put in the person's home directory and didn't see any options for doing anything else. Nor did I see any script that would allow root to copy the data someplace else to make the data available to all users. I filed a futurefeature request (498733) againts uqm for this, but was wondering if this case was more the exception than the rule? From j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl Sun May 10 19:58:29 2009 From: j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl (Hans de Goede) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:58:29 +0200 Subject: Using autodownloaded data system wide In-Reply-To: <20090510161112.GB14747@wolff.to> References: <20090510161112.GB14747@wolff.to> Message-ID: <4A0731E5.6040002@hhs.nl> On 05/10/2009 06:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Since the autodownloader stuff came up, I thought I'd ask if there is > an easy way to install autodownloaded data system wide for most games > that use this feature? > > I ask because I found that for uqm the data get's put in the person's > home directory and didn't see any options for doing anything else. Nor > did I see any script that would allow root to copy the data someplace > else to make the data available to all users. > > I filed a futurefeature request (498733) againts uqm for this, but was > wondering if this case was more the exception than the rule? > The case of autodownloader putting the downloaded stuff in the users homedir is the rule, not the exception. For one simple reason: security Making something like autodl work *safely* in a system central way is going to be a huge pain. Regards, Hans From bruno at wolff.to Mon May 18 00:41:38 2009 From: bruno at wolff.to (Bruno Wolff III) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:41:38 -0500 Subject: No lobby server packaged with TA Spring? Message-ID: <20090518004138.GA9511@wolff.to> I was wondering what the reason the TA Spring lobby server wasn't packaged (as far as I can tell) with the other TA Spring stuff?