[Fedora-ia64-list] F8 for ia64 now available

John L. Bass jbass at dmsd.com
Tue Dec 11 12:38:03 UTC 2007


Just for the record, statements are sarcastic at best.

I continue to find it amusing that you continue to blame
everyone else for your failure to set standards for this
project as it's leader.

It's certainly NOT the Fedora Projects fault that your
projects releases continue to fall short of the mark.

John

	John L. Bass wrote:
	> Good luck guys, Prarit made it clear I'm barking up the wrong tree
	> expecting Fedora ia64 to become a stable platform.
	>
	>   

	Thanks John -- at least you've come to understand what we are currently 
	not -- a stable platform.  Hopefully with a bit of help (secondary arch 
	status!) from Fedora Project we can get to a stable point.

	P.
	> John
	>
	> 	Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:38:57 -0700
	> 	From: "John L. Bass" <jbass at dmsd.com>
	> 	To: jbass at dmsd.com, prarit at redhat.com
	> 	Subject: Re: Fedora ia64 releases
	> 	Cc: dchapman at redhat.com, plasm at roo.me.uk
	>
	> 	Prarit Bhargava <prarit at redhat.com> writes:
	>
	> 		John L. Bass wrote:
	> 		> This only becomes a product, when every member of the team expects it to be
	> 		> a product. You and Doug clearly do not expect that, and it clearly lacks because
	> 		> of it. You say that's because of lack of resources, and ignore finding ways
	> 		> to include outside offers for help in a productive way. That is what makes the
	> 		> F8 iso's a joke, and trying to test/use those bits a waste of many peoples time.
	> 		>
	> 		> 99.99999% of the bits in your release are clean production quality. The few
	> 		> that are not, are this teams problem, and it's unrealistic to believe some
	> 		> future upstream release will result in a perfect Fedora ia64 cut.
	> 		>   
	>
	> 		John -- it seems to me that you have a complete misunderstanding of what 
	> 		Fedora is.  You seem to be arguing that Fedora is some stable, robust, 
	> 		and supported platform.  It is NONE of those things.
	>
	> 	You and Doug are clearly here to represent RedHat's controlling interest in Fedora.
	> 	Thank you for clearly setting the record straight about expecting a usable, stable,
	> 	production release from the sanctioned Fedora releases processes.
	>
	> 	Clearly believing the hope RedHat set in the Fedora mission statements appears to
	> 	have been wrong. Sorry for believing the Fedora dream.
	>
	> 	John Bass
	>
	>   




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