From shakthimaan at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 17:51:40 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 23:21:40 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] IRC meet, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 1100 IST Message-ID: Hi, It is going to be two weeks since our previous IRC meet. So, I am going to call for an IRC meet: Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009 Time: 1100 IST Server: irc.freenode.net Channel: #fedora-india Agenda: * Update on any work done in the last two weeks. * Tasks (if any) to be worked in the next couple of weeks. * Support queries and related discussions. * Guidance/tasks to interested newbies. Please feel free to add to the agenda. Let us try to make the IRC meet every two weeks. For instructions on using IRC, please refer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo Regards, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From malathiramya at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 04:47:46 2009 From: malathiramya at gmail.com (malathi selvaraj) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:17:46 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] how to import tomboy files. Message-ID: I have fedora12 in my system now, Before i use fedora11 and take backup of tomboy notes from here ~/.tomboy , i copy this folder in my USB, then after install fedora12 how to include these files? -- Regards, S.Malathi. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rakesh.pandit at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 05:11:14 2009 From: rakesh.pandit at gmail.com (Rakesh Pandit) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:41:14 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] how to import tomboy files. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/12/5 malathi selvaraj wrote: > I have fedora12 in my system now, Before i use fedora11 and take backup of > tomboy notes from here ~/.tomboy , i copy this folder in my USB, then after > install fedora12 how to include these files? > 'cp -r /path/to/backup/on/usb/.tomboy ~/.gnote' will work. -- Rakesh Pandit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rakesh freedom, friends, features, first From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 05:16:11 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:46:11 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] IRC meet, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 1100 IST In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1259990171.1701.3.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:21 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > It is going to be two weeks since our previous IRC meet. So, I am > going to call for an IRC meet: > > Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009 > Time: 1100 IST > > Server: irc.freenode.net > Channel: #fedora-india > > Agenda: > > * Update on any work done in the last two weeks. > * Tasks (if any) to be worked in the next couple of weeks. > * Support queries and related discussions. > * Guidance/tasks to interested newbies. > > Please feel free to add to the agenda. Let us try to make the IRC meet > every two weeks. > > For instructions on using IRC, please refer: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo > > Regards, > > SK > hi, I will not have access to the internet at the time ( will be travelling from 6th to 12th ). I'll catch up with the logs. regards, Ankur From hiemanshu at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 05:15:54 2009 From: hiemanshu at gmail.com (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:45:54 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] IRC meet, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 1100 IST In-Reply-To: <1259990171.1701.3.camel@localhost> References: <1259990171.1701.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <2f60e31b0912042115q395567edwfaeab770ddd955cd@mail.gmail.com> Hey, I should be able to make it, but I may be a little busy. So just remember to ping me. Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma. 2009/12/5 Ankur Sinha > On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:21 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It is going to be two weeks since our previous IRC meet. So, I am > > going to call for an IRC meet: > > > > Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009 > > Time: 1100 IST > > > > Server: irc.freenode.net > > Channel: #fedora-india > > > > Agenda: > > > > * Update on any work done in the last two weeks. > > * Tasks (if any) to be worked in the next couple of weeks. > > * Support queries and related discussions. > > * Guidance/tasks to interested newbies. > > > > Please feel free to add to the agenda. Let us try to make the IRC meet > > every two weeks. > > > > For instructions on using IRC, please refer: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo > > > > Regards, > > > > SK > > > > hi, > > I will not have access to the internet at the time ( will be travelling > from 6th to 12th ). I'll catch up with the logs. > > > regards, > Ankur > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From malathiramya at gmail.com Sun Dec 6 05:27:42 2009 From: malathiramya at gmail.com (malathi selvaraj) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:57:42 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] how to import tomboy files. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: > 2009/12/5 malathi selvaraj wrote: > > I have fedora12 in my system now, Before i use fedora11 and take backup > of > > tomboy notes from here ~/.tomboy , i copy this folder in my USB, then > after > > install fedora12 how to include these files? > > > > >'cp -r /path/to/backup/on/usb/.tomboy ~/.gnote' will work. > Thank you sir, i got it. > > -- Regards, S.Malathi. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:54:17 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Linux in govt. offices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, Unfortunately, none of the concerned officials are ready to listen. They weren't even ready to meet me. Its very disappointing and frustrating to see this narrow minded approach of theirs. Suyash Kumar Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SuyashKumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 7 06:34:55 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:04:55 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Linux in govt. offices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1CA20F.2080201@fedoraproject.org> On 12/07/2009 11:54 AM, S.K. wrote: > Hi everyone, > Unfortunately, none of the concerned officials are ready to listen. They > weren't even ready to meet me. Its very disappointing and frustrating to > see this narrow minded approach of theirs. > Suyash Kumar Although you might find it disappointing, this is entirely expected. Government organizations in India tend to be very risk averse, move slowly and need a top down approach which is best left to vendors. Grass roots support is best directed towards more receptive places such as education institutions, libraries or small organizations. Rahul PS: Aggregate your blog in Planet Fedora From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 7 06:40:25 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:10:25 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Nag mail] For those who attended FOSS.IN Message-ID: <35586fc00912062240i418f7bdcu3f44ef0c39838264@mail.gmail.com> Can you please post the links to your relevant blog entries to the list ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From hiemanshu at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 07:15:28 2009 From: hiemanshu at gmail.com (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:15:28 -0500 Subject: [fedora-india] [Nag mail] For those who attended FOSS.IN In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912062240i418f7bdcu3f44ef0c39838264@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912062240i418f7bdcu3f44ef0c39838264@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f60e31b0912062315u754aaaecl8ea15438e9ee8715@mail.gmail.com> Just go to my blog at blog.hiemanshu.in, and you should find only 4 posts on the whole blog, except the first one, all three are FOSS.in related. 2009/12/7 sankarshan > Can you please post the links to your relevant blog entries to the list ? > > -- > sankarshan mukhopadhyay > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 7 08:51:02 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:21:02 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 27, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: References: <20091130170040.20677619C82@hormel.redhat.com> <2814b3d30911300911t41c067ddsaecc15c8192a66c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912070051g6ccc8626kba71705c72ee8235@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:02 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Admins of Fedora-India list, > > This is an open request to setup a mailman content filter to block > "Re: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest" mails. > > We already have it at ambassadors mailling list, so it is highly possible. Thank you for noticing this and exhorting to take action. This has been done. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 7 11:49:37 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:49:37 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] [Nag mail] For those who attended FOSS.IN In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912062240i418f7bdcu3f44ef0c39838264@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912062240i418f7bdcu3f44ef0c39838264@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200912071249.42185.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> On Monday 07 December 2009 07:40:25 sankarshan wrote: > Can you please post the links to your relevant blog entries to the list ? foss.in was a great event - reports: http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-is-started.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day-1.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day-2-is-running.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day3.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day4.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/foss.html Event Pictures: http://www.simline.de/foss_in2009/ -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For me, here they goes: http://susmit.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/foss-in-last-three-days/ http://susmit.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/foss-in-day-3-01/ http://susmit.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/foss-in-day-1-99-day-2-and-day-3-01/ I am yet to get a fedorahosted instance probably because of FUDCon Toranto (So sending only talk and no code). As soon as I get it, I shall post the code too. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 12:31:30 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:01:30 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest Message-ID: Just to annoy you and test if the filtering is working. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 12:35:46 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:05:46 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 27, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912070051g6ccc8626kba71705c72ee8235@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091130170040.20677619C82@hormel.redhat.com> <2814b3d30911300911t41c067ddsaecc15c8192a66c7@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912070051g6ccc8626kba71705c72ee8235@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > Thank you for noticing this and exhorting to take action. This has been done. I think we need to tune the reg-exp a bit. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-December/msg00014.html -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 7 12:51:28 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:21:28 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 27, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: References: <20091130170040.20677619C82@hormel.redhat.com> <2814b3d30911300911t41c067ddsaecc15c8192a66c7@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912070051g6ccc8626kba71705c72ee8235@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912070451m7c2c532cm6bd0f50d4edb0c33@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:05 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> >> Thank you for noticing this and exhorting to take action. This has been done. > > I think we need to tune the reg-exp a bit. > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-December/msg00014.html Darn ! I'll look into this tomorrow. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From electromech at electromech.info Mon Dec 7 18:16:44 2009 From: electromech at electromech.info (Nilesh J. Vaghela) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:46:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Small Fedora 12 Install Fest By VGLUG At Ahmedabad. In-Reply-To: <200907272028.29926.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200907272028.29926.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B1D468C.9070504@electromech.info> Hi All, VGLUG had just organized one small Fedora 12 Install Fest at Ahmedabad with CSI Ahmedabad Chapter. Here is the small report. http://vglug.info/fedoar-12-install-fest-vglug-with-csi-ahmedabad-chapter Thanks and regards. -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner Ahmedabad: 404,Maulik Arcad,Nr. Mansi cross Road,Satellite Rd Baroda : 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj www.electromech.info From shreyankg at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 19:26:14 2009 From: shreyankg at gmail.com (Shreyank Gupta) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:56:14 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Nag mail] For those who attended FOSS.IN In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912062240i418f7bdcu3f44ef0c39838264@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912062240i418f7bdcu3f44ef0c39838264@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8b854d6b0912071126q3a48e82ak7edcdfa76b659974@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sankarshan wrote: > Can you please post the links to your relevant blog entries to the list ? > http://allsortsofshrink.blogspot.com/2009/12/tuesday-december-1st-2009-nimhans.html http://allsortsofshrink.blogspot.com/2009/12/day-2-fossin.html http://allsortsofshrink.blogspot.com/2009/12/day-3-fossin.html http://allsortsofshrink.blogspot.com/2009/12/day-4-fossin.html http://allsortsofshrink.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day-5-and-trdp.html , In chronological order. -- Peace and Love, Shreyank Gupta Blog: http://allsortsofshrink.blogspot.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 04:46:13 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:16:13 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] What not to put on your blog if you are aggregated in Planet Fedora. Message-ID: Hi, Please have a look https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-December/msg00028.html Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From rtnpro at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 14:43:02 2009 From: rtnpro at gmail.com (Ratnadeep Debnath) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:13:02 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Low Bluetooth transfer speed Message-ID: <467c41720912090643w2ef8719bqbb2aba2d4a2e11d4@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Fedora 12 has got some cool upgrades in the Gnome-bluetooth UI. But the bluetooth transfer speed is pretty low ( around < 100 KBps) as found in my and some of my friends' notebooks. Any one else having similar issues? Thanks, rtnpro From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 07:22:06 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:52:06 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Infrastructure outage notification. You may be affected this weekend. Message-ID: Hi, "A reminder for those who don't read the link, we'll be having a massive outage of many Fedora services this weekend while we are moving our servers to a new location." Services that will be down * Buildsystem * CVS * Wiki * MirrorManager * translate.fedoraproject.org * Mail lists * Primary mirrors at download.fedora.redhat.com Read more at: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1845 Contact Information: #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 11 06:24:58 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:54:58 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [ANN] If you are planning to ... Message-ID: <35586fc00912102224v28f690b2ucd4a810b9be27851@mail.gmail.com> * organize an Event * look for DVDs * looking for presentations * request sponsorship and so forth, you might want to read up which is a General FAQ and, which is a bit more specific aimed at events. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 11 13:55:18 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:25:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective Message-ID: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> Hi, I would like to get some feedback from Fedora contributors who attended the event on what went well and what we could improve for the next year. I intend to write in detail at some point but my short list: * Met Susmit, Ankur, Hiemanshu, Joerg Simon, Kedar and others which I think is a important part of the event more than anything else. * Fedora Potd went pretty well but I think we should have put up posters/banners somewhere in front to guide the audience. * Booth was a pleasant surprise and talking to other booths, a number of them didn't get explicit confirmation either. We had to rush to get the Swag done (thanks to Susmit). Must avoid that in the future. Let me know your comments. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 16:03:17 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:33:17 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to get some feedback from Fedora contributors who attended > the event on what went well and what we could improve for the next year. > ?I intend to write in detail at some point but my short list: > > * Met Susmit, Ankur, Hiemanshu, Joerg Simon, Kedar and others which I > think is a important part of the event more than anything else. Same here. > * Fedora Potd went pretty well but I think we should have put up > posters/banners somewhere in front to guide the audience. The problem was we didn't get new faces who were interested to get started. Otherwise, it went well. My observation is that big events are fine for meeting old friends and get ongoing works done. But these are not very suitable for getting new contributors q(plenty of choices for them?) or starting a new work. > * Booth was a pleasant surprise and talking to other booths, a number of > them didn't get explicit confirmation either. We had to rush to get the > Swag done (thanks to Susmit). Must avoid that in the future. As long as I am in Kolkata, I can arrange things in (preferably) a couple of days notice. There is not much you could do as the booth was really a surprise. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From aanjhan at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 16:32:36 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:32:36 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:03 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > The problem was we didn't get new faces who were interested to get > started. Otherwise, it went well. My observation is that big events > are fine for meeting old friends and get ongoing works done. But these > are not very suitable for getting new contributors q(plenty of choices > for them?) or starting a new work. I shall disagree here. May be you will get a hall filled with students in a not so *large* conference. But what is the turnover number at such places? Consider the number of Fedora Activity days / Fedora awareness campaigns having been conducted all over India and the number of *active* Fedora contributors we have. Turnover is bad in terms of numbers for sure otherwise this list would have been already hitting 1000's At conferences such as FOSS.IN you have a selective set of people coming in. The majority (say even *vast* majority) have a specific target when they come in, and these are folks who have not been forced to sit in any talks. They came in voluntarily. So I would expect the turnover to be much higher which is atleast true wrt RTEMS this year and KDE over the past few years. KDE - Shanthanu tushar who lead the PoTD this time attended FOSS.IN 2008 first time. So did so many folks who are now active KDE contributors. I am sure Pradeepto will agree with me that FOSS.IN has produced more KDE contributors than any other random talks he has given all over India. RTEMS - I already have 2 new contributors and several requests are coming through email. Definitely in teh past of all teh lecturing I have done, people used to be enthusiastic but very few held on and actually contributed. But getting 2 new contributors in just 5 days who actually contributed patches is a good accomplishment. So there is something else that has gone wrong. We need to dig deeper. And oh, new work has always been started at large conferences. At FOSSDEM I kicked off some work, at FOSS.IN 2009 I started playing around with Adruino. So again I disagree :) What needs to be looked into is, given plenty of choices why did people not chose Fedora PoTD or becoming a Fedora Contributor? Where did the mistake happen? Still open... Regards, Aanjhan From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 11 16:44:51 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:14:51 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> On 12/11/2009 10:02 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: > What needs to be looked into is, given plenty of choices why did > people not chose Fedora PoTD or becoming a Fedora Contributor? Where > did the mistake happen? > > Still open... Point taken. However I don't think that we can compare something like KDE to Fedora. Totally different dynamics but if there are suggestions on what to improve, I will gladly take it. Rahul From shakthimaan at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 17:10:20 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:40:20 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: | Fedora | awareness campaigns having been conducted all over India and the | number of *active* Fedora contributors we have. \-- You should not compare apples and oranges. An awareness campaign is not necessarily the same as a developer conference. Each has different objectives, and different audiences. There have been places/colleges with people who didn't even know something like *nix existed! It is our foremost duty to show them our world before they can get started! --- | Turnover is bad in | terms of numbers for sure otherwise this list would have been already | hitting 1000's \-- Patience is a virtue. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 12 03:02:58 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:32:58 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Congrats to Arun SAG Message-ID: <4B2307E2.50306@fedoraproject.org> Hi Arun has recently become a Fedora package maintainer with his first package approved and build recently. He also has many people added to his pipeline. http://arunsag.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/pushing-my-first-package-in-fedora-repository/ I remember Joerg Simon's recent comments as spins being a place for the community to rally around a common idea and I found that very insightful. That is indeed the case with the work being done here as part of Fedora Electronics Lab. Thanks to Shakthi, Chitlesh and others for guidance and help. Hope to see more people participate in Fedora from India. Rahul From sagarun at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 03:42:19 2009 From: sagarun at gmail.com (Arun SAG) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:12:19 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Congrats to Arun SAG In-Reply-To: <4B2307E2.50306@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B2307E2.50306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hi, On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >Arun has recently become a Fedora package maintainer with his first > >package approved and build recently. He also has many people added to > >his pipeline. > > > >http://arunsag.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/pushing-my-first-package-in-fedora-repository/ > > Thanks rahul . I would like to use this opportunity to thank shakthi and chitlesh for their invaluable guidance and help :-) Bye :-) -- Arun S.A.G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kedars at marvell.com Sat Dec 12 06:15:17 2009 From: kedars at marvell.com (Kedar Sovani) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:15:17 -0800 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> , <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> > > ________________________________________ > From: fedora-india-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-india-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rahul Sundaram > > [sundaram at fedoraproject.org] > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:14 PM > To: Aanjhan R > Cc: fedora-india at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective > > On 12/11/2009 10:02 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: > > > What needs to be looked into is, given plenty of choices why did > > people not chose Fedora PoTD or becoming a Fedora Contributor? Where > > did the mistake happen? > > > > Still open... > > Point taken. However I don't think that we can compare something like > KDE to Fedora. Totally different dynamics but if there are suggestions > on what to improve, I will gladly take it. > I thought the workout concept was good. Making a list todos with some low-hanging fruit items to begin with, and getting new folks to get some concrete work done would help. Because for many, they don't know where to start, but once started they can keep going. > Rahul > Kedar. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 12 06:19:49 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:49:49 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> , <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> Message-ID: <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> On 12/12/2009 11:45 AM, Kedar Sovani wrote: > I thought the workout concept was good. Making a list todos with some low-hanging > fruit items to begin with, and getting new folks to get some concrete work done > would help. > > Because for many, they don't know where to start, but once started they can > keep going. Yeah. Difficult part is finding a list of such items that new potential contributors can get involved with. What would be the good entry points? Rahul From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 07:09:28 2009 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:39:28 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Congrats to Arun SAG In-Reply-To: References: <4B2307E2.50306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > >> >Arun has recently become a Fedora package maintainer with his first >> >package approved and build recently. He also has many people added to >> >his pipeline. >> > Kudos to Arun!! Good work :) -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" My Blog: http://mageshcse.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Though I am not active - My entry point was Fedora Electronic Lab, my interest is electronics and hence that was the obvious start point. The first thing I did is to patch Xcircuit (I think) My two paisa :) thanks and Regards, Aanjhan From aanjhan at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 11:04:11 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:04:11 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Aanjhan R wrote: > We must check where each of the current active Fedora contributors > started off? Just a short 2 sentence "What was the first thing you did > for Fedora? and why? " > > IMO, we should be able to observe some sort of pattern and try putting > forward similar entry points somewhere on the wiki or work on such > points during FADs. As I was cleaning my room, this flash appeared and I pen it down here. May not make much sense but worth going on records :) 1. Important tasks of being involved with a distribution (Packaging / Documentation / Testing / Artwork) 2. Out of the above tasks you show to a new comer, which one do you think would excite him/her the most? IMO nothing gives the adrenalin rush to immediately sit down and start hacking. (No. I am not saying the above are brain dead things. I do understand the difficulties of packaging tex ;) ) 3. Consider a project like ; say Lekhonee. I feel it is much much easier to get people excited to contributing to such "upstream" projects than to the distro specific tasks. IMO, other than Lekhonee being hosted on fedorahosted.org and having core devs from Redhat it has *nothing* specific for Fedora. So I think showing a pathway , a top-down contribution pathway to the folks might help getting more people into the contribution mould? (where top = upstream) End of my ramblings. Regards, Aanjhan From aanjhan at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 11:07:43 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:07:43 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: > being hosted on fedorahosted.org and having core devs from Redhat it OK. Red Hat :) From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 12 11:24:46 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:46 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> On 12/12/2009 04:34 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Aanjhan R wrote: >> We must check where each of the current active Fedora contributors >> started off? Just a short 2 sentence "What was the first thing you did >> for Fedora? and why? " >> >> IMO, we should be able to observe some sort of pattern and try putting >> forward similar entry points somewhere on the wiki or work on such >> points during FADs. > > As I was cleaning my room, this flash appeared and I pen it down here. > May not make much sense but worth going on records :) > > 1. Important tasks of being involved with a distribution (Packaging / > Documentation / Testing / Artwork) > 2. Out of the above tasks you show to a new comer, which one do you > think would excite him/her the most? IMO nothing gives the adrenalin > rush to immediately sit down and start hacking. That does vary between people. Within the free software world, I started out doing L10N, then moved on to documentation, did some system administration, perl and Qt programming, packaging and now doing a bit of everything. There are aspects of individual communities which are incredibly appealing. I don't think you can sit in a session with the Fedora design team and not come away excited about the possibility of creating new user interfaces or themes. One of the reasons why I did try and provide a more holistic view in the Potd rather than the traditional hacker only culture is not just because Fedora Project itself believes in bringing together people with wide variety of interests but also because I believe in it based on my own personal experiences as well. We have a fairly well rounded team in Fedora. Susmit does infrastructure work. Hiemanshu does websites. A bunch of us do various upstream projects, packaging, QA etc. That is not accidental and I believe it leads to a healthier community. The challenge is breaking down chunks of it enough to mentor and recruit new contributors. Let me note that within India, among distributions, we have by and far, the largest base of contributors. So I don't believe we are slacking. Just that we can do better and that's always going to be the case. Rahul From aanjhan at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 11:40:31 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:40:31 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > We have a fairly well rounded team in Fedora. Susmit does infrastructure > work. Hiemanshu does websites. A bunch of us do various upstream > projects, packaging, QA etc. That is not accidental and I believe it > leads to a healthier community. The challenge is breaking down chunks of > it enough to mentor and recruit new contributors. ?Let me note that > within India, among distributions, we have by and far, the largest base > of contributors. So I don't believe we are slacking. Just that we can do > better and that's always going to be the case. Agreed. A community like Fedora does need a well rounded team and I never mentioned we are slacking. So wrt the challenge - I feel there is fairly a neat list out here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join . I dont see what more needs to be done to get more people interested and get started. The only important thing to take care is not to lose interested people. Forcing does'nt work. For all we are volunteers :) Basically as I always felt, it all boils down to being interested / individuality. No amount of cajoling will help in the long term. Regards, Aanjhan From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 12 11:48:10 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:18:10 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B2382FA.3050004@fedoraproject.org> On 12/12/2009 05:10 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: > > Agreed. A community like Fedora does need a well rounded team and I > never mentioned we are slacking. So wrt the challenge - I feel there > is fairly a neat list out here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join . I > dont see what more needs to be done to get more people interested and > get started. IMO, breakdown individual tasks into small enough items. For QA, this would involve bug triaging. You can triage a few bugs in an hour and walk away and still make a useful contribution. This is difficult to do for other teams but there are useful steps using whiteboard markers in bugzilla like easyfix and studentproject http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/217-StudentProject-keyword-in-Fedora-Bugzilla.html There is also the interest from existing contributors to use their network of relationships to cultivate more contributions. That's happening slowly but something we need to actively push for. Lastly, I think we can plan a Fedora specific event next year and gather all the contributors together on a hackfest. Rahul From steve at lonetwin.net Sun Dec 13 06:51:20 2009 From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:21:20 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <4B2382FA.3050004@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> <4B2382FA.3050004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B248EE8.3030609@lonetwin.net> Hi, This thread started with a discussion about FOSS.IN, which I had planned on attending but unfortunately had to cancel those plans at the last moment. Although, it now has brought out a few good points about contribution, so I would like to submit my 2p worth. As a packager, one of the biggest turn-offs for me used to be the turn-around time for the reviews. I've submitted my first package for review in F9 (or early F10), i think, but got my first one accepted sometime in the late F10 cycle. However, once i accepted the delays, it became easier for me to just submit and wait for a review. So, IMHO, besides generating the initial enthusiasm, it is also important that we have a way of sustaining it. This can be done by either setting real expectations on the delays involved for initial contributions to get through or by decreasing in some manner these delays. We could for instance ask new contributors to send out a mail here to fedora-india list mentioning their BZs so that someone responds more quickly. cheers, - steve [...snip...] -- random non tech spiel: http://lonetwin.blogspot.com/ tech randomness: http://lonehacks.blogspot.com/ what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 13 07:06:21 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:36:21 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <4B248EE8.3030609@lonetwin.net> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> <4B2382FA.3050004@fedoraproject.org> <4B248EE8.3030609@lonetwin.net> Message-ID: <4B24926D.6070201@fedoraproject.org> On 12/13/2009 12:21 PM, steve wrote: > Hi, > > This thread started with a discussion about FOSS.IN, which I had planned > on attending but unfortunately had to cancel those plans at the last > moment. Although, it now has brought out a few good points about > contribution, so I would like to submit my 2p worth. > > As a packager, one of the biggest turn-offs for me used to be the > turn-around time for the reviews. I've submitted my first package for > review in F9 (or early F10), i think, but got my first one accepted > sometime in the late F10 cycle. That's pretty fast considering the length of the review queue and yes its one of the long standing problems. It would help if people volunteer to do more reviews. Every package maintainer can do reviews except for non sponsored first time review of a new package maintainer. http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ However, once i accepted the delays, it > became easier for me to just submit and wait for a review. > > So, IMHO, besides generating the initial enthusiasm, it is also > important that we have a way of sustaining it. This can be done by > either setting real expectations on the delays involved for initial > contributions to get through or by decreasing in some manner these delays. > > We could for instance ask new contributors to send out a mail here to > fedora-india list mentioning their BZs so that someone responds more > quickly. I am not sure how to direct potential package maintainers to do that? Rahul From aanjhan at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 10:20:46 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:20:46 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <4B248EE8.3030609@lonetwin.net> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> <4B2382FA.3050004@fedoraproject.org> <4B248EE8.3030609@lonetwin.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:51 AM, steve wrote: > As a packager, one of the biggest turn-offs for me used to be the > turn-around time for the reviews. I've submitted my first package for review > in F9 (or early F10), i think, but got my first one accepted sometime in the > late F10 cycle. However, once i accepted the delays, it became easier for me > to just submit and wait for a review. Now this IMO is true and important to be taken care of. Because every human being likes to see his / her contribution right there, accepted and feel excited about it. Especially the first contributions. I remember Sankarshan or Sayamindu asking for a app to be packaged and in a couple of days the packaging was done and submitted for review. *This* is fantastic response. Why not the same for "Reviews of First time packagers". Why not somewhere in that Fedora-India wiki page put up a note asking people to send out an email to this list requesting package review? Or during those fedora activity days, the mentors can sit and review packages of new contributors and right away upload it? Or have a mentor for a new contributor (I am sure this this is in place already) and that mentor accountable for quick reviewing of the very first packages or contributions ? There has to be some priority queuing for reviewing packages that are being uploaded by new contributors? My 2 paisa. Hope we get a rupee by the end :) Regards, Aanjhan From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 13 10:26:19 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:56:19 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <4B227703.40502@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> <4B2382FA.3050004@fedoraproject.org> <4B248EE8.3030609@lonetwin.net> Message-ID: <4B24C14B.80204@fedoraproject.org> On 12/13/2009 03:50 PM, Aanjhan R wrote: . Why not the same for "Reviews of First > time packagers". Why not somewhere in that Fedora-India wiki page put > up a note asking people to send out an email to this list requesting > package review? The join page for new maintainers is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers It is not regional specific obviously. I can add a note in the India wiki page but I don't think interested folks will necessarily see it. Rahul From rakesh.pandit at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 11:37:30 2009 From: rakesh.pandit at gmail.com (Rakesh Pandit) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:07:30 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> <25B60CDC2F704E4E9D88FFD52780CB4C04C8C76D19@SC-VEXCH1.marvell.com> <4B233605.5020006@fedoraproject.org> <4B237D7E.3060407@fedoraproject.org> <4B2382FA.3050004@fedoraproject.org> <4B248EE8.3030609@lonetwin.net> Message-ID: 2009/12/13 Aanjhan R wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:51 AM, steve wrote: >> As a packager, one of the biggest turn-offs for me used to be the >> turn-around time for the reviews. I've submitted my first package for review >> in F9 (or early F10), i think, but got my first one accepted sometime in the >> late F10 cycle. However, once i accepted the delays, it became easier for me >> to just submit and wait for a review. > > Now this IMO is true and important to be taken care of. Because every > human being likes to see his / her contribution right there, accepted > and feel excited about it. Especially the first contributions. > [..] As Rahul pointed this is a _general_ problem. And reasons are a) big queue b) need of sponsor c) time taken by reporter to show how much of guideline understanding s/he has. > I remember Sankarshan or Sayamindu asking for a app to be packaged and > in a couple of days the packaging was done and submitted for review. > *This* is fantastic response. Why not the same for "Reviews of First > time packagers". Why not somewhere in that Fedora-India wiki page put [..] Because the process for new contributors is different then usual. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/HowToGetSponsored Link wouldn't work because of outage. > up a note asking people to send out an email to this list requesting > package review? Or during those fedora activity days, the mentors can > sit and review packages of new contributors and right away upload it? > Or have a mentor for a new contributor (I am sure this this is in > place already) and that mentor accountable for quick reviewing of the > very first packages or contributions ? > > There has to be some priority queuing for reviewing packages that are > being uploaded by new contributors? > [..] If I remember last review sig meeting I attended this has been taken care by *few* sponsors who are very active in reviewing new requests. But that meeting was held ages ago. After that meet fisco dropped the bar for getting sponsored, but waiting time is surely a problem. The only way to expedite it is in hands of new submitter: do some more work ... and make noise. Moreover reviewing is very critical work + grunt work, getting more sponsors attracted towards this process could be seen as other way of reducing the time gap for everyone. If you can think of ways of doing it ?.. raise the issue in fedora devel .. and move on the discussion. I would suggest go and participate in review sig. -- Rakesh Pandit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rakesh freedom, friends, features, first From suyash.kmr at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 04:11:00 2009 From: suyash.kmr at gmail.com (S.K.) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:41:00 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Linux in govt. offices In-Reply-To: <1260760817.2542.18.camel@amachu-laptop> References: <1259685167.2210.8.camel@amachu-laptop> <1260760817.2542.18.camel@amachu-laptop> Message-ID: Nope, They are not ready to hear me out. :( Suyash Kumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is not spam actually!! -- Parin Sharma Another FOSS Lover, New Delhi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 13:59:23 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:29:23 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Parin Sharma wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <222d3a330912140504y1dd47b3buce3b79a77bc3ed22@mail.gmail.com> References: <1371226327.11419519.1260795697613.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn13.prod> <222d3a330912140504y1dd47b3buce3b79a77bc3ed22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912140559lbba1586ieaa1775a0e69b341@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Parin Sharma wrote: > I am sorry for this !! This is not spam actually!! It is *unsolicited mail*. Next time, please be wary of adding your address book to such services. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From parin.sharma at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 14:01:31 2009 From: parin.sharma at gmail.com (Parin Sharma) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:01:31 -0500 Subject: [fedora-india] Parin Sharma wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912140559lbba1586ieaa1775a0e69b341@mail.gmail.com> References: <1371226327.11419519.1260795697613.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn13.prod> <222d3a330912140504y1dd47b3buce3b79a77bc3ed22@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912140559lbba1586ieaa1775a0e69b341@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <222d3a330912140601i69d73fffoe10acbfc26a35ec@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:59 AM, sankarshan wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Parin Sharma > wrote: > > > I am sorry for this !! This is not spam actually!! > > It is *unsolicited mail*. Next time, please be wary of adding your > address book to such services. > > Yeah, I will be sir !! > > -- > sankarshan mukhopadhyay > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- Parin Sharma Another FOSS Lover, New Delhi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 16 05:59:55 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:29:55 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FOSS.IN 2009 retrospective In-Reply-To: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B224F46.1070107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00912152159se5d850es48bafd7ef5a8900d@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I would like to get some feedback from Fedora contributors who attended > the event on what went well and what we could improve for the next year. Following the discussion in this thread (thanks to all those who participated), I tabulated the discussion at . Please feel free to add/modify my interpretation of your feedback if you feel that is required. Additionally, also try and identify action points that we can put as ToComplete in the coming year. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 04:46:34 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:16:34 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? Message-ID: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> hi, We are trying to hold regular meetings every fortnight. The last was on the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation. Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting on #fedora at Freenode. Agenda: - New folks on the team can introduce themselves - Questions/queries to be discussed. - If there are people interested in learning RPM packaging, I could take a quick hands on session for font packages to get them started (like mether had done a year or so ago to get me started ;) ) We can post the logs to our blogs etc. to help other people as well. - Any more people interested in taking fedora-india specific sessions, (even marketing etc)? - If there are people who'd like guidance on how to contribute, they should use this opportunity. I request folks who are already contributors (and pats of various teams)to be present to help the newbies (hiemanshu, mbuf, etc). (Please also put your hand up if you'd like to take a mini session) I'd request newbies to *please* be present and not to let this chance go waste. I'd also like to know what you rates you folks pay for getting media mass pressed. I enquired at a site and have been given 27/dvd for 500 copies and 32/dvd for 300 copies[1]. Comments? Please add more to the agenda. REMINDER : folks whose blogs are not yet on the planet, please add them asap[2] regards, Ankur PS - I've already discussed the hands on with Shakti briefly. I'm sticking to fedora-india because a session on classrooms will require a lot of depth. This hands on is just intended as a quick starter. [1] http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/Ankur%20Sinha%2016.12.09.doc [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_Fedora_Planet From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 05:16:48 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:46:48 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <35586fc00912162116i21fc3a40p38003d801a795a6a@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > We are trying to hold regular meetings every fortnight. The last was on > the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation. > > Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting > on #fedora at Freenode. Ankur, thanks for leading this. > Agenda: > > - New folks on the team can introduce themselves With respect to the above, is it possible to include an item which would allow the first time packagers or, those who have packages under review (but pending for long) to allow others to help them out ? > - Questions/queries to be discussed. > - If there are people interested in learning RPM packaging, I could take > a quick hands on session for font packages to get them started (like > mether had done a year or so ago to get me started ;) ) I'd request that this be undertaken separately. [snip] > I'd also like to know what you rates you folks pay for getting media > mass pressed. I enquired at a site and have been given 27/dvd for 500 > copies and 32/dvd for 300 copies[1]. Comments? Would you like to elaborate on the above please ? What is the need to mass produce media ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From shakthimaan at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 05:28:22 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:58:22 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: | The last was on the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation. \-- There are good days and bad days. It will take time for things to change. So, be patient. --- | Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting | on #fedora at Freenode. \-- Yes, good. For Fedora packaging, you can also look into my presentation that briefly addresses the .spec file and the tools and options used: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-paneer-butter-masala.pdf An old IRC log for the presentation is available at: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/irclogs/2009/2009-07-02_mbuf_packaging_rpm.log.html The sources are available at: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-paneer-butter-masala.tar.bz2 Simple workflow steps are available at: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/howtos/packaging-rpm-workflow.html --- | Agenda: | \-- Add these to the agenda: - We will need to hear the experiences of our most recent Fedora packager, Arun SAG, a.k.a "zer0c00l". - Share experiences from people running F12. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:03:55 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:33:55 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912162116i21fc3a40p38003d801a795a6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> <35586fc00912162116i21fc3a40p38003d801a795a6a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261033436.1714.34.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:46 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > We are trying to hold regular meetings every fortnight. The last was on > > the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation. > > > > Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting > > on #fedora at Freenode. > > Ankur, thanks for leading this. > > > Agenda: > > > > - New folks on the team can introduce themselves > > With respect to the above, is it possible to include an item which > would allow the first time packagers or, those who have packages under > review (but pending for long) to allow others to help them out ? Yeah, sounds good. Folks, please propose ideas for this? > > > - Questions/queries to be discussed. > > - If there are people interested in learning RPM packaging, I could take > > a quick hands on session for font packages to get them started (like > > mether had done a year or so ago to get me started ;) ) > > I'd request that this be undertaken separately. Okay, We'll take this off the agenda and schedule it at another time at a dedicated session. > > [snip] > > > I'd also like to know what you rates you folks pay for getting media > > mass pressed. I enquired at a site and have been given 27/dvd for 500 > > copies and 32/dvd for 300 copies[1]. Comments? > > Would you like to elaborate on the above please ? What is the need to > mass produce media ? > > I had just expected it to be cheaper. My experiences with burning DVDs on my laptop result in a lot of wastage while also taking a lot of my time. The DVDs I burn and send do not have the fedora DVD label on them (the labels etc give a more "official" look to the mailed media). Instead they have a sick looking moserbaer or sony top with a "fedora $release $arch dvd" written using a marker. I was just looking around. I had thought that ambassadors in neighbouring regions could get media mass burnt collectively, reducing costs (since cost/dvd is inversly proportional to number of dvds ordered). I want to have some copies of Fedora media and the release notes at each hostel's "checkin/reception". There are 17hostels at college, with about 15-20 copies at each, plus the freemedia requests and (install fests) I could service, comes to about 400 DVDs. It is a thought stream which doesn't look viable currently. The idea is to make fedora media available more freely at college, to such an extent that folks don't need to request media, just pick and install. I'll stick to copies of the release notes or something similiar for the time being. If someone has better media producing rates, please let the list know. further reading ;) [1] regards, Ankur [1] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-December/msg00050.html From sagarun at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:03:30 2009 From: sagarun at gmail.com (Arun SAG) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:33:30 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > > > - We will need to hear the experiences of our most recent Fedora > > packager, Arun SAG, a.k.a "zer0c00l". > > I am happy to share my experiences :-) , if it is added to the agenda . I will be there by 12 (10 -12 power cut here :( ) Thanks -- Arun S.A.G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:26:08 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:56:08 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1261034768.1714.35.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 12:33 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Shakthi Kannan > wrote: > > > - We will need to hear the experiences of our most recent > Fedora > > packager, Arun SAG, a.k.a "zer0c00l". > > > I am happy to share my experiences :-) , if it is added to the > agenda . I will be there by 12 (10 -12 power cut here :( ) > > Thanks > -- > Arun S.A.G Please add it to the agenda yourself ;) We can have the meeting at 12. I dont think shifting it by an hour is a problem. regards, Ankur From aanjhan at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:35:27 2009 From: aanjhan at gmail.com (Aanjhan R) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:35:27 +0100 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Please add more to the agenda. I would like to hear / discuss more on this from other folks. I assume folks who turn up on IRC for the meeting are active contributors/ new contributors etc and hence it will be easier to get opinion / action points. 11 AM is way too early in my time zone. So I wont be there, but my ghost shall lurk around. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/fossin09_feedback Regards, Aanjhan From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 17 08:22:18 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:52:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello Message-ID: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Any suggestions on this? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Hello Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:43:33 -0800 (PST) From: Sunita Narang To: Rahul Sundaram Dear Rahul, Hope this mail finds you in best of health. I contacted you sometime back with regard to summer training of my students in Acharya Narendra Dev College, Delhi Univ. This time also i have a request, we were looking for a person who could give an impressive 1 hr lecture on FOSS. Is it possible for you to suggest somebody's name to me. Thanks and regards, sunita narang Asst. Professor, ANDC From stephaniedasgupta at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 08:44:39 2009 From: stephaniedasgupta at gmail.com (Stephanie Das Gupta) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:14:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello In-Reply-To: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B29EF77.1090802@gmail.com> What would the topic be? Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Any suggestions on this? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Hello > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:43:33 -0800 (PST) > From: Sunita Narang > To: Rahul Sundaram > > Dear Rahul, > > Hope this mail finds you in best of health. I contacted you sometime > back with regard to summer training of my students in Acharya Narendra > Dev College, Delhi Univ. This time also i have a request, we were > looking for a person who could give an impressive 1 hr lecture on FOSS. > Is it possible for you to suggest somebody's name to me. > > Thanks and regards, > sunita narang > Asst. Professor, > ANDC > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > -- ~ Stephanie ~ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 17 08:49:27 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:19:27 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello In-Reply-To: <4B29EF77.1090802@gmail.com> References: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> <4B29EF77.1090802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B29F097.9030601@fedoraproject.org> On 12/17/2009 02:14 PM, Stephanie Das Gupta wrote: > What would the topic be? > I assume a generic introduction for students. Rahul > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Any suggestions on this? >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Hello >> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:43:33 -0800 (PST) >> From: Sunita Narang >> To: Rahul Sundaram >> >> Dear Rahul, >> >> Hope this mail finds you in best of health. I contacted you sometime >> back with regard to summer training of my students in Acharya Narendra >> Dev College, Delhi Univ. This time also i have a request, we were >> looking for a person who could give an impressive 1 hr lecture on FOSS. >> Is it possible for you to suggest somebody's name to me. >> >> Thanks and regards, >> sunita narang >> Asst. Professor, >> ANDC >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-india mailing list >> Fedora-india at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india >> >> > > From stephaniedasgupta at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 08:56:02 2009 From: stephaniedasgupta at gmail.com (Stephanie Das Gupta) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:26:02 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello In-Reply-To: <4B29F097.9030601@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> <4B29EF77.1090802@gmail.com> <4B29F097.9030601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B29F222.9000301@gmail.com> I know that Indranil Das Gupta does speak to students often. He has spoke in both class 7-10 schools as well as colleges. Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/17/2009 02:14 PM, Stephanie Das Gupta wrote: > >> What would the topic be? >> >> > > I assume a generic introduction for students. > > Rahul > > > > >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Any suggestions on this? >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Hello >>> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:43:33 -0800 (PST) >>> From: Sunita Narang >>> To: Rahul Sundaram >>> >>> Dear Rahul, >>> >>> Hope this mail finds you in best of health. I contacted you sometime >>> back with regard to summer training of my students in Acharya Narendra >>> Dev College, Delhi Univ. This time also i have a request, we were >>> looking for a person who could give an impressive 1 hr lecture on FOSS. >>> Is it possible for you to suggest somebody's name to me. >>> >>> Thanks and regards, >>> sunita narang >>> Asst. Professor, >>> ANDC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-india mailing list >>> Fedora-india at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india >>> >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > -- ~ Stephanie ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I contacted you sometime > >> back with regard to summer training of my students in Acharya Narendra > >> Dev College, Delhi Univ. This time also i have a request, we were > >> looking for a person who could give an impressive 1 hr lecture on FOSS. > >> Is it possible for you to suggest somebody's name to me. > >> > >> Thanks and regards, > >> sunita narang > >> Asst. Professor, > >> ANDC > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Fedora-india mailing list > >> Fedora-india at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > Well in my opinion Mr. Narendra Sisodiya can give if he has time and he has been doing this earlier too we had a workshop in our college with him only.. and I can help him if required. We both live in Delhi so thats a +point. -- Parin Sharma Another FOSS Lover, http://twiiter.com/FOSSmaniac New Delhi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 17 09:04:43 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:34:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello In-Reply-To: <222d3a330912170101o15513402q787ca98c63538a11@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> <4B29EF77.1090802@gmail.com> <4B29F097.9030601@fedoraproject.org> <222d3a330912170101o15513402q787ca98c63538a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B29F42B.4020305@fedoraproject.org> On 12/17/2009 02:31 PM, Parin Sharma wrote: > > Well in my opinion Mr. Narendra Sisodiya can give if he has time and he > has been doing this earlier too we had a workshop in our college with > him only.. > and I can help him if required. > We both live in Delhi so thats a +point. In that case, feel free to get in touch with Sunita Narang directly. Rahul From debayanin at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 09:04:54 2009 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:34:54 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello In-Reply-To: <222d3a330912170101o15513402q787ca98c63538a11@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> <4B29EF77.1090802@gmail.com> <4B29F097.9030601@fedoraproject.org> <222d3a330912170101o15513402q787ca98c63538a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/17 Parin Sharma > > > Well in my opinion Mr. Narendra Sisodiya > Narendra Sisodiya was the first name that came to my head too. I was not too sure about his presentation skill since I have not met him personally, so did not put his name out. I guess he can do a good job since Parin says so. -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 17 09:11:40 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:41:40 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello In-Reply-To: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00912170111n5727a39ey69eba94b52e373f8@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Any suggestions on this? [snip] > Hope this mail finds you in best of health. I contacted you sometime > back with regard to summer training of my students in Acharya Narendra > Dev College, Delhi Univ. This time also i have a request, we were > looking for a person who could give an impressive 1 hr lecture on FOSS. > Is it possible for you to suggest somebody's name to me. Irrespective of who volunteers for this, please do keep in mind that you will be the face of the Free and Open Source community. Do stress upon the best aspects of the culture and community and, please do not engage in a bad-mouthing of other software development models or, spread FUD. If you have a story to share that is personal and, is relevant to the talk, it would perhaps be ideal to share that, your audience would be able to relate to you much quickly. I realize that we all "know" the above. Repeating it doesn't do harm. Just as profusely thanking the volunteer who will take time out to be the speaker at this event. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From hiemanshu at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 17 10:51:17 2009 From: hiemanshu at fedoraproject.org (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:21:17 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <2f60e31b0912170251y1ac32b68h1065f012e586a246@mail.gmail.com> I will try my best to be there. I should be here unless sleep takes over time (Seeing that I usually sleep at 5 AM) Do ping me just in case. Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adimania at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 11:43:41 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:13:41 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: Hello In-Reply-To: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B29EA3A.6000007@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <2d4fa6320912170343t6606cb36s8c62d8b40e1de2a9@mail.gmail.com> I would be glad to help in any way if this lecture is to be conducted anytime during winter or summer vacation. I have given some introductory lectures at Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Any suggestions on this? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Hello > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:43:33 -0800 (PST) > From: Sunita Narang > To: Rahul Sundaram > > Dear Rahul, > > Hope this mail finds you in best of health. I contacted you sometime > back with regard to summer training of my students in Acharya Narendra > Dev College, Delhi Univ. This time also i have a request, we were > looking for a person who could give an impressive 1 hr lecture on FOSS. > Is it possible for you to suggest somebody's name to me. > > Thanks and regards, > sunita narang > Asst. Professor, > ANDC > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -- Aditya Patawari http://yaps.co.in http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania India -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 20:21:16 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:21:16 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: <2f60e31b0912170251y1ac32b68h1065f012e586a246@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> <2f60e31b0912170251y1ac32b68h1065f012e586a246@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0912171221l1f9472f1m3c8578e186ef3dc5@mail.gmail.com> > I will try my best to be there. I should be here unless sleep takes over > time (Seeing that I usually sleep at 5 AM) > Do ping me just in case. What sort of pinging will wake you up from your lumber? Phone calls? Just curious. :-) Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From hiemanshu at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 20:27:19 2009 From: hiemanshu at gmail.com (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:57:19 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST? In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0912171221l1f9472f1m3c8578e186ef3dc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261025194.1714.2.camel@localhost> <2f60e31b0912170251y1ac32b68h1065f012e586a246@mail.gmail.com> <3170f42f0912171221l1f9472f1m3c8578e186ef3dc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2A9427.2030708@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/18/2009 01:51 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote: >> I will try my best to be there. I should be here unless sleep takes over >> time (Seeing that I usually sleep at 5 AM) >> Do ping me just in case. > > What sort of pinging will wake you up from your lumber? Phone calls? > Just curious. :-) > > Cheers, > Debarshi The ping will help me know the meeting is starting, If I am up, I ll have a flashing windows at my face. I am usually up by 10AM so thats not a problem. Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLKpQnAAoJEDQGoO+CeKfy3ncH/jzNfby/ro+8cCVuM5GRV0vR UHJeQ6/vm6ImsPf2kFbrtB0TP09ryzI7a+IHOTOan7jTzk6ZF0ucEf+WcnialtyS nf47rKBkkgVfSDZ90vELnByUn+K4eaDUY4/SLU2g0gHRAeMpbfPu9ZOpHg3FpYZ4 muwlx7Ov4zS4cGU9rk6eaI+hPIBb3gmr6wyIq7L8hPM7qlG++EhAC+BgdodEzKhf Fl4u2xjcyrNidUHh7J9XDJFSxoMSL2mlSw71s1QslTj+3lfDRNnCgzqmAlR06ecb rN/DyfuAGA8+h8zFIDdzHAN2IOgcbQdBbJcfvNNId3CzrbCIQaDWxGlwqK+EiWc= =8MpN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 19 02:59:30 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:29:30 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fwd: [PLUG] Announcing GNUnify'10......scheduled on 19th & 20th Feb 2009 In-Reply-To: <8ac331210912181031k51b645ddlb600bdfd7bf6ddc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ac331210912181031k51b645ddlb600bdfd7bf6ddc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7e3d3af30912181859g58e877f2j5712268102d12f4d@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Date: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM Subject: [PLUG] Announcing GNUnify'10......scheduled on 19th & 20th Feb 2009 Dear friends, We are happy to announce GNUnify 2010 !! GNUnify 2010 is scheduled on 19th & 20th Feb 2010 (Friday, Saturday) Please checkout the event website ?http://gnunify.in and post your suggestions or contact us. The website currently gives basic information about the event and will be updated soon as per further announcements (like CFP) and updates. We welcome you all to the event!! Best regards, --Team GNUnify ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! www.projects4students.com Offer projects. Get your work done. Groom your future employees !! ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! www.sudhanwa.com -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 09:44:30 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:14:30 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Reminder : Fedora India Meet Message-ID: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> Hi all, A reminder regarding the Fedora India meet we have scheduled at 1200 noon(IST) for December the 20th, 2009. The agenda as it stands currently: - Feedback on foss.in - zer0c00l's experiences ;) - Feedback on F12 - New folks on the team can introduce themselves - Questions/queries. - Open floor (anything not on the agenda) If you'd like to talk about something that isn't on the agenda, please just come to the meet and use the open floor. I request all to please be present, even if you think you've got nothing to say. Another reminder, people whose blogs are not on the planet, please add them asap[1]. Some reading for the meet: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/IRC_Etiquette regards, Ankur PS - dronebl.org keeps banning me saying I'm running a SOCKS server which I'm not. It's something to do with BSNL, I think. In case I get banned from freenode (again), I'll miss the meet :( [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_Fedora_Planet From hiemanshu at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 12:13:20 2009 From: hiemanshu at gmail.com (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:43:20 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Reminder : Fedora India Meet In-Reply-To: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2009 03:14 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hi all, > > A reminder regarding the Fedora India meet we have scheduled at 1200 > noon(IST) for December the 20th, 2009. > > > The agenda as it stands currently: > > - Feedback on foss.in > - zer0c00l's experiences ;) > - Feedback on F12 > - New folks on the team can introduce themselves > - Questions/queries. > - Open floor (anything not on the agenda) > > If you'd like to talk about something that isn't on the agenda, please > just come to the meet and use the open floor. > > I request all to please be present, even if you think you've got nothing > to say. > > Another reminder, people whose blogs are not on the planet, please add > them asap[1]. > > Some reading for the meet: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC > > http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/IRC_Etiquette > > regards, > > Ankur > > PS - dronebl.org keeps banning me saying I'm running a SOCKS server > which I'm not. It's something to do with BSNL, I think. In case I get > banned from freenode (again), I'll miss the meet :( > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_Fedora_Planet > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india Hey Ankur, Who is going to chair over the meeting? Incase you have a problem, just use webchat.freenode.net :) Another thing which I wanted to speak about was the packaging week that is being planned, during the First week of Jan, starting Jan 4. I am sure to be there, I just set up a reminder, I request everybody else to set up a reminder on your phone (or just email me your number and I would be happy to txt ping you) and to please please please be at the meeting. Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLLMNgAAoJEDQGoO+CeKfykXEH/RJ0eMo/wJdG9OV7QUw63qCi JFy64g0KPCK1m2tWpCLcXw4q02dXyKA5elnuuyKTLArEZ3rTmIXUVZEPVf7tor7i wYCcSgfnuqS4giHtpjK28ULHUAqy9NwkLd9gEBlNV61FTZMiRsrbo55aVSXVNu8k UDPRXKYHO9YtU9JdTsISveGOGxektbcKKnxp2f60R2Z6rlVRUJKTOm2ehySYCnKn haQTvdrIRyBDhz7B0GyrUY8xp8CvTZWoBZOJWizIcTkmZjwgktvBib95zh9J7rrf tDLdhgYWDdQaot2+FX2L9zdkZj37OQq49t7tlQ+WUpWu3dxpqQmjdO+9DzdBalI= =Q6c6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 12:36:40 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:06:40 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Reminder : Fedora India Meet In-Reply-To: <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> hi, > Hey Ankur, > > Who is going to chair over the meeting? It can be anyone really, does not make much of a difference. Whoever goes "its time lets begin #startmeeting" can chair it ;) The chair is needed for zodbot and to add a little "order and method" to the meet. > Incase you have a problem, just use webchat.freenode.net :) > Another thing which I wanted to speak about was the packaging week that > is being planned, during the First week of Jan, starting Jan 4. Ah!! awesome, I forgot to add this to my original email. Thanks :) > I am sure to be there, I just set up a reminder, I request everybody > else to set up a reminder on your phone (or just email me your number > and I would be happy to txt ping you) and to please please please be at > the meeting. > Ah, there's a catch. dronebl.org bans IP addresses, even webchat doesnt work :( > Regards, > > Hiemanshu Sharma. regards, Ankur From hiemanshu at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 20:06:52 2009 From: hiemanshu at gmail.com (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:36:52 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Reminder : Fedora India Meet In-Reply-To: <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2009 06:06 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > >> Hey Ankur, >> >> Who is going to chair over the meeting? > > It can be anyone really, does not make much of a difference. Whoever > goes "its time lets begin #startmeeting" can chair it ;) > The chair is needed for zodbot and to add a little "order and method" to > the meet. > >> Incase you have a problem, just use webchat.freenode.net :) >> Another thing which I wanted to speak about was the packaging week that >> is being planned, during the First week of Jan, starting Jan 4. > > Ah!! awesome, I forgot to add this to my original email. Thanks :) > >> I am sure to be there, I just set up a reminder, I request everybody >> else to set up a reminder on your phone (or just email me your number >> and I would be happy to txt ping you) and to please please please be at >> the meeting. >> > > Ah, there's a catch. dronebl.org bans IP addresses, even webchat doesnt > work :( > >> Regards, >> >> Hiemanshu Sharma. > > regards, > Ankur > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india One Important thing I forgot is about having a Fedora Release Party. Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLLTJcAAoJEDQGoO+CeKfyIOoH/i7sZqI+mweaF/hczh+rZnjI oMPTqeiGDL4bvWUakAp8HuuJQuw4GRYSGmXMmCz5SggMs2iAYO55Muj/QuuMXgVw ahO6IvZmpWlC5QFrTX1c0hK+Iy8XZy02GAAZ1kRqwmrwHyNQI5XG6G+ZJHcxXwMW dtbD7V99UjTs0ZjVjAheUq1wFAPRFMNdRkyuHQm/t/PkakNRZGXFULjb4unIReoX BI0dRxzqqIDaROHeNZlrnyyqDqgGGdYcN2VVgQ6ZvmQa63hmRvHFFNCfBJlvrWE3 +SDo9CnhS1xpKGWOAuBwZl/CQ/dMSma6eSW5IqaJl5ff//poStkljh5skuyLyd8= =Er9l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 08:32:31 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:02:31 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> hi, We had quite a meeting. The agenda was pretty small and was discussed quickly. People present (lines said) 1. franciscod (123) 2. hiemanshu (84) 3. zer0c00l (71) 4. mbuf (60) 5. ashwin_man (30) 6. skbohra (22) 7. vermapratyush (19) 8. jdk2588 (17) 9. dilipkhanolkar (17) 10. Morpheuss (7) 11. vAMsHI (6) 12. Prajwal (5) 13. manud (4) 14. zodbot (3) 15. kushal (2) 16. moorthykmd (2) 17. SeaOrifice (2) Here are the logs for people who couldnt make it: Quick overview: - Arun almost took a mini tut for packaging ;) - vermapratyush introduced himself - jdk2588 and skbohra gave a few details about the lug bikaner site, and their planned release party - ashwin_man gave his views on F12 (he has some troubleshooting to do) - franciscod gave a quick roundup of his F12 feedback and his recent activities - queries on packaging were cleared (mbuf, hiemanshu,franciscod, zer0c00l) - a brief discussion on upcoming GNUnify - a brief course plan for fudcon india next year - hiemanshu brought the packaging week some focus (its planned on #fedora-classroom) http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-india/2009-12-20/fedora-india.2009-12-20-06.29.html http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-india/2009-12-20/fedora-india.2009-12-20-06.29.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-india/2009-12-20/fedora-india.2009-12-20-06.29.log.html Thank you all for coming. The next meet would be in the first week of January 2010. regards, Ankur (franciscod) From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 08:45:35 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:15:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: | - a brief course plan for fudcon india next year \-- Ticket raised: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/48 Aren't e-mails sent to fedora-india mailing lists as tickets are issued, or updated? SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 12:01:14 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:31:14 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: > > Ticket raised: > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/48 > > Aren't e-mails sent to fedora-india mailing lists as tickets are > issued, or updated? No, because financial matters are often associated with the tickets, it is not possible to make fedora-india tickets public. Those who are in 'cc, the reporter and the owner has access. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 04:27:43 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:57:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <35586fc00912202027w1a7b7a6er6178b550c8e42348@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > --- On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > | - a brief course plan for fudcon india next year > \-- > > Ticket raised: > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/48 > > Aren't e-mails sent to fedora-india mailing lists as tickets are > issued, or updated? An useful URL is . I had earlier posted the announcement notice of GNUnify. It would be nice if we could spend some time on the following: * plan on what to do at GNUnify * plan on what aspects of GNUnify can be a build-up to a FUDCon For an event like FUDCon, a minimum of 4 months notice needs to be in place. This generally allows speakers, participants and, the organizers to iron out every wrinkle that one can foresee. Circling back to GNUnify. Since the dates are out, it would be a good time to figure out who are planning to attend the event from outside of Pune and, what they want to do. This would also help in making budget decisions around GNUnify. Historically, the GNUnify organizers have been agreeable towards providing facilities to conduct "our own thing" as long as there are no extra-ordinary demands. Since we are going to be at GNUnify, it would be good to follow the usual process: * having an owner for the event presence * having a listing on the Events page * having a wiki page to plan out the possible speakers/sessions On the last point, it would be wonderful to have a day long effort for students and new faces in FOSS, from various Fedora folks covering topics like: * Quick overview of FOSS * Importance of Community and Communication (a quick demonstration of IRC and such) * Creating FAS accounts, learning about Planet Fedora * RPM Packaging basics (all participants make one package at least) * Obtaining and building from sources (build tools and environments) * Using Bugzilla (how to file a bug/request) * Debugging and Testing (how to debug, test a patch) This year, I have repeatedly pointed out two things - first, we are being unable to take steps beyond installation fests and, second, we are unable to tap the existing talent of the participants and make substantial headway into various parts of The Fedora Project. Both will happen given enough time, but we need to also put the plans into action that will enable these to become reality. A reminder to all those who contributed to the FOSS.IN retrospective thread or, attended the event - please do take some time to look at It is indeed good that we had a discussion on the list, distilling them into a set of actions would be excellent. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 04:29:23 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:59:23 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <35586fc00912202029n3af910ecgad4ed88263d880b7@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Quick overview: > > - Arun ?almost took a mini tut for packaging ;) > - vermapratyush introduced himself > - jdk2588 and skbohra gave a few details about the lug bikaner site, and > their planned release party > - ashwin_man gave his views on F12 (he has some troubleshooting to do) > - franciscod gave a quick roundup of his F12 feedback and his recent > activities > - queries on packaging were cleared (mbuf, hiemanshu,franciscod, > zer0c00l) > - a brief discussion on upcoming GNUnify > - a brief course plan for fudcon india next year > - hiemanshu brought the packaging week some focus (its planned on > #fedora-classroom) Thank you. The logs were most helpful in the response later in the thread. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 04:42:33 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:12:33 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912202027w1a7b7a6er6178b550c8e42348@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <35586fc00912202027w1a7b7a6er6178b550c8e42348@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > * Quick overview of FOSS > * Importance of Community and Communication > ? ? ? (a quick demonstration of IRC and such) > * Creating FAS accounts, learning about Planet Fedora > * RPM Packaging basics > ? ? ? (all participants make one package at least) > * Obtaining and building from sources > ? ? ? (build tools and environments) > * Using Bugzilla > ? ? ? (how to file a bug/request) > * Debugging and Testing > ? ? ? (how to debug, test a patch) * Contributing to fedora-websites. * Contributing to fedora-design * Collection of projects that can involve students. For example, Mathieu (in 'cc) is looking for a helping hand with Shomyu for a long time. It will involve TG2 and Openlayers/OSM. I am sure there are others who are in need for the same. If we can collect such projects and keep them on a wiki page, we _may_ get a few students involved in coding. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From ershad92 at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 05:07:11 2009 From: ershad92 at gmail.com (Ershad K) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:37:11 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <35586fc00912202027w1a7b7a6er6178b550c8e42348@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2F027F.9030309@gmail.com> susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> * Quick overview of FOSS >> * Importance of Community and Communication >> (a quick demonstration of IRC and such) >> * Creating FAS accounts, learning about Planet Fedora >> * RPM Packaging basics >> (all participants make one package at least) >> * Obtaining and building from sources >> (build tools and environments) >> * Using Bugzilla >> (how to file a bug/request) >> * Debugging and Testing >> (how to debug, test a patch) >> > > * Contributing to fedora-websites. > * Contributing to fedora-design > * Collection of projects that can involve students. For example, > Mathieu (in 'cc) is looking for a helping hand with Shomyu for a long > time. It will involve TG2 and Openlayers/OSM. I am sure there are > others who are in need for the same. If we can collect such projects > and keep them on a wiki page, we _may_ get a few students involved in > coding. > > Dear Sir, I'm a CS student and interested in C++ coding. Could you suggest some projects? Thanks, Ershad From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 11:20:35 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:50:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FUDCon India 2010 Message-ID: Hi, Just starting a new post for a proposed FUDCon India 2010, since it is good for us to commit early into planning, agenda etc. Please feel free to update the wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:India_2010 Thanks! SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 11:50:55 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:20:55 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FUDCon India 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1261396255.1717.1.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:50 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > Just starting a new post for a proposed FUDCon India 2010, since it is > good for us to commit early into planning, agenda etc. > > Please feel free to update the wiki page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:India_2010 > > Thanks! > > SK > hey, Shakti, thank you for taking the initiative :) Please keep a watch on the talk page[1] regards, Ankur [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_talk:India_2010 From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 16:50:44 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:20:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] FUDCon India 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2FA764.3090408@fedoraproject.org> On 12/21/2009 04:50 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > Just starting a new post for a proposed FUDCon India 2010, since it is > good for us to commit early into planning, agenda etc. > > Please feel free to update the wiki page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:India_2010 > > Thanks! Please post to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning as well for wider feedback when you are ready. Thanks. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 16:57:08 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:27:08 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list Message-ID: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> To infrastructure team, As noted in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00011.html, fedora-india list is moving from redhat.com to lists.fedoraproject.org and the new location will be indian-users at lists.fp.o Although this is good for consistency, when I created this list, it was never intended to be a end user focussed list and the focus is on discussions between contributors. Unlike, other user lists, the discussions are in English and not in the native tongues (because we have so many different languages) and there is not much of a benefit to having a user specific regional list. IMO, it is better to name it something like indian-community at lists.fp.o Copying fedora-india list for other opinions. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 16:57:18 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:27:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list Message-ID: <4B2FA8EE.9010305@fedoraproject.org> To infrastructure team, As noted in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00011.html, fedora-india list is moving from redhat.com to lists.fedoraproject.org and the new location will be indian-users at lists.fp.o Although this is good for consistency, when I created this list, it was never intended to be a end user focussed list and the focus is on discussions between contributors. Unlike, other user lists, the discussions are in English and not in the native tongues (because we have so many different languages) and there is not much of a benefit to having a user specific regional list. IMO, it is better to name it something like indian-community at lists.fp.o Copying fedora-india list for other opinions. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 21:24:21 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:54:21 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> On 12/22/2009 02:51 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram > wrote: > >> Although this is good for consistency, when I created this list, it was >> never intended to be a end user focussed list and the focus is on >> discussions between contributors. Unlike, other user lists, the > > We can do that :) We can do what? Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 21:26:44 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:56:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> On 12/20/2009 02:02 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > hi, > > We had quite a meeting. The agenda was pretty small and was discussed > quickly. > > Here are the logs for people who couldnt make it: > > Quick overview: > > - Arun almost took a mini tut for packaging ;) Reading through the logs, I would be interested in Arun's take on what was the positive or less than positive aspects of taking the first steps? What worked out well? What needs improvement from the project to make it easy for potential contributors? Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 22:31:12 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:01:12 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> On 12/22/2009 03:57 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram > wrote: > >> We can do what? > > Oops. somehow quoted an entirely irrelevant portion of your message :) > > We can call the list whatever you like. indian-community sounds as > good as any to me. Alright. Great. Since the list is copied on these discussions, they can suggest alternative/better names for the list as well. Rahul From sankarshan at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 23:36:43 2009 From: sankarshan at fedoraproject.org (sankarshan) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:06:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/22/2009 03:57 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram >> wrote: >> >>> We can do what? >> >> Oops. somehow quoted an entirely irrelevant portion of your message :) >> >> We can call the list whatever you like. indian-community sounds as >> good as any to me. > > Alright. Great. Since the list is copied on these discussions, they can > suggest alternative/better names for the list as well. indian-community sounds good to me. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 23:52:53 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:22:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > indian-community sounds good to me. +1. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From hiemanshu at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 00:51:07 2009 From: hiemanshu at gmail.com (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:21:07 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3017FB.8080302@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/22/2009 05:22 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> indian-community sounds good to me. > > +1. > +1 From me too. Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLMBf7AAoJEDQGoO+CeKfyN1cH/AqOhoL5pUICp8HN4vWW8oWm DTWgekUIQadE18vQnvhwArL3AUxitc29AXnBl+mGqQkHgT8cTeCT5ifRpKsRzSvc R8wZTifdGB5tPsSnopblOVm90WMn445ifywtY8oYQP4j3At+kAUhOZRa1+r+NR98 kFx2pv0+7AoeiybdRKoLe0Rj2hzfeKsgPImEQp0v62oAgJcCfonMo2ukb1wqX8ED nH+41NW7W2t6acmY9UCBPdzXWdlPAoPfIAzS1GcgsvoURHFCxMkudabIW8gnqkwJ D2T6SGn65godZfCyNGmtBj0wMs89nPYsxrHWqBwF0RrCHjfXdI+38bJOPSILb28= =M37p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 01:53:56 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:53:56 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Tumbler: packager needed Message-ID: <3170f42f0912211753m5f8f37efy3708cb10bfb94901@mail.gmail.com> Would someone be kind enough to submit Tumbler for review and subsequently own it? Here are the initial spec & SRPM: http://rishi.fedorapeople.org/tumbler.spec http://rishi.fedorapeople.org/tumbler-0.1.0-1.fc11.src.rpm Thanks, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 22 02:42:37 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:12:37 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Tumbler: packager needed In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0912211753m5f8f37efy3708cb10bfb94901@mail.gmail.com> References: <3170f42f0912211753m5f8f37efy3708cb10bfb94901@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B30321D.8070403@fedoraproject.org> On 12/22/2009 07:23 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote: > Would someone be kind enough to submit Tumbler for review and > subsequently own it? > > Here are the initial spec & SRPM: > http://rishi.fedorapeople.org/tumbler.spec > http://rishi.fedorapeople.org/tumbler-0.1.0-1.fc11.src.rpm > > Thanks, > Debarshi Submitted at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549593 Rahul From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 04:26:43 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:56:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 05:22 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > indian-community sounds good to me. > > +1. > hey, It isn't discussion if everyone quietly gives a +1 ;) how about "ud-india at .."? or "FUD-india at ..."? UD = users and developers like in FUDCon or "community-india at .." rather than "indian-community at ..."? regards, Ankur From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 04:36:38 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:06:38 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] : packaging help Message-ID: <1261456598.8934.9.camel@localhost> hey, Can someone please tell how to help the maintainer update this package[1]? I don't need much, just a few points on how to proceed. Its almost 3 weeks since I requested the update and it'll be good if I could help speed up the process. regards, Ankur [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=543433 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=543433#c1 From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 06:30:06 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:30:06 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Tumbler: packager needed In-Reply-To: <4B30321D.8070403@fedoraproject.org> References: <3170f42f0912211753m5f8f37efy3708cb10bfb94901@mail.gmail.com> <4B30321D.8070403@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <3170f42f0912212230h3a7ac34ewaf11907dbada157b@mail.gmail.com> > Submitted at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549593 Thanks. :-) Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From libregeek at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 07:04:36 2009 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:34:36 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <2315046d0912212304x6478a904tb75312b1e2ce8189@mail.gmail.com> 2009/12/22 Ankur Sinha : > On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 05:22 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> > indian-community sounds good to me. >> >> +1. >> > > hey, > > It isn't discussion if everyone quietly gives a +1 ;) > > > how about "ud-india at .."? or "FUD-india at ..."? > > UD = users and developers like in FUDCon > > or "community-india at .." rather than "indian-community at ..."? > > regards, > > Ankur It seems FUD has a different meaning. Please refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fud Why not just use "indians", such as indians at lists.. IMO, "indians" will cover all the levels(newbies, experts) and types(end-users, developers, etc ) of people -- Manilal K M : ???????? ?? ??. http://libregeek.blogspot.com From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 07:19:44 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:49:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <2315046d0912212304x6478a904tb75312b1e2ce8189@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> <2315046d0912212304x6478a904tb75312b1e2ce8189@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261466384.8934.12.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 12:34 +0530, Manilal K M wrote: > 2009/12/22 Ankur Sinha : > > On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 05:22 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > >> > indian-community sounds good to me. > >> > >> +1. > >> > > > > hey, > > > > It isn't discussion if everyone quietly gives a +1 ;) > > > > > > how about "ud-india at .."? or "FUD-india at ..."? > > > > UD = users and developers like in FUDCon > > > > or "community-india at .." rather than "indian-community at ..."? > > > > regards, > > > > Ankur > It seems FUD has a different meaning. Please refer > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fud > > Why not just use "indians", such as indians at lists.. > IMO, "indians" will cover all the levels(newbies, experts) and > types(end-users, developers, etc ) of people > > -- > Manilal K M : ???????? ?? ??. > http://libregeek.blogspot.com > hey, I hadn't thought of "fud" like that. apologies. Ankur From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 07:22:38 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:52:38 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <2315046d0912212304x6478a904tb75312b1e2ce8189@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> <2315046d0912212304x6478a904tb75312b1e2ce8189@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Why not just use "indians", such as indians at lists.. > IMO, "indians" will cover all the levels(newbies, experts) and > types(end-users, developers, etc ) of people Because proposed indian-community (now fedora-india) will be open to everyone, even for those who are not residents of this country (we have many such members.) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 14:56:31 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:26:31 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Heads up students. Time for Fedora Scholarship. Message-ID: Pretty well described. http://blog.melchua.com/2009/12/22/going-to-college-next-year-time-to-apply-for-the-fedora-scholarship/ -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From sherry151 at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 16:41:44 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:11:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: > or "community-india at .." rather than "indian-community at ..."? > How about india at lists.fp.org . indian-community@ somehow sounds very weird. Even community-india@ is a good option. -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury sherry151 at gmail.com From shreyankg at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 21:21:51 2009 From: shreyankg at gmail.com (Shreyank Gupta) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:51:51 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <8b854d6b0912221321w4a4f645cwd23eb1f5ae426850@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote: >> or "community-india at .." rather than "indian-community at ..."? >> > > How about india at lists.fp.org . indian-community@ somehow sounds very > weird. Even community-india@ is a good option. I agree! -- Peace and Love, Shreyank Gupta Blog: http://allsortsofshrink.blogspot.com From hiemanshu at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 21:27:15 2009 From: hiemanshu at gmail.com (Hiemanshu Sharma) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:57:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <8b854d6b0912221321w4a4f645cwd23eb1f5ae426850@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> <8b854d6b0912221321w4a4f645cwd23eb1f5ae426850@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3139B3.5030505@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/23/2009 02:51 AM, Shreyank Gupta wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote: >>> or "community-india at .." rather than "indian-community at ..."? >>> >> >> How about india at lists.fp.org . indian-community@ somehow sounds very >> weird. Even community-india@ is a good option. > I agree! > +1 From me on this Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma,. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLMTmzAAoJEDQGoO+CeKfy+sgH/3Ee6AkBV/NQlLB3IRGQMY3q W41dHiZJesQecL94eL7+T6MEv1H7nP+CiEOA4GjFuELHwXTE8NAQwFj3XVnaRA+g yxakSoKBC1BxyDzv+YJJ7ZyRPyCEBl3plUc0/rMEN9F3E+yos1RLvNrWh19byqSb a89OVBRzxeq8ScskHZMREEXO1KvH3JNzWl2Ot0Yr31JX0+xJlzOIoiBu0g+c1792 ZxtKiHdzFrIEa2BkwCxjWFT5EnkE0Mb2uIM6n2KS3ONiD4Sse0UXPLVBDci87Jp+ eaoxT/CUEX4rvyRwIlwhFq6wFBkgFhZuQJY8dwr01001hAE50+kiuGcFZYnXezU= =SFfV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 02:32:53 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:02:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: <4B2FA8EE.9010305@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B2FA8EE.9010305@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00912221832h288222e0w4cc22fc36246c027@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > As noted in > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00011.html, > fedora-india list is moving from redhat.com to lists.fedoraproject.org > and the new location will be indian-users at lists.fp.o > > Although this is good for consistency, when I created this list, it was > never intended to be a end user focussed list and the focus is on > discussions between contributors. Unlike, other user lists, the > discussions are in English and not in the native tongues (because we > have so many different languages) and there is not much of a benefit to > having a user specific regional list. IMO, it is better to name it > something like indian-community at lists.fp.o > > Copying fedora-india list for other opinions. When is the cut-off date within which a name has to be chosen and let known to the Infrastructure team ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From sagarun at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 03:25:51 2009 From: sagarun at gmail.com (Arun SAG) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:55:51 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >Reading through the logs, I would be interested in Arun's take on what > >was the positive or less than positive aspects of taking the first > >steps? What worked out well? What needs improvement from the project to > >make it easy for potential contributors? > I like the whole process ;-) . I see several review requests are being untouched/unapproved for months. Yes , i do agree that reviewing packages and sponsoring them is a time consuming and tiresome work :-) . There should be a queue or some thing or some limit on time how long the packagers have to wait for a sponsor . Potential contributors from india can be asked to file a ticket or something so that new review requests can be tracked and approved ASAP (yes, we can ask them to send an email to the list asking for sponsor/review) . Is there any way to identify contributors from india and _automatically_ add fedora-india to CC list of their review requests? Cheers, -- Arun S.A.G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can you please push across the URLs to the ones you noticed ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From sagarun at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 05:34:15 2009 From: sagarun at gmail.com (Arun SAG) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:04:15 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM, sankarshan wrote: > > >Can you please push across the URLs to the ones you noticed ? > > Emacs jabber https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508316 the owner is rakesh it has been there for 6 months. Mbuf really wanted this package, i remember him asking for some one to review it in #fedora-devel. Emacs identica mode https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532241 just two months old. -- Arun S.A.G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 05:39:53 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:09:53 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > Emacs jabber https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508316? the owner > is rakesh it has been there for 6 months. Mbuf really wanted this package, i > remember? him asking for some one to review it in #fedora-devel. > > Emacs identica mode https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532241? just > two months old. I want mw-client for EPEL. I am pinging for it so long. :( -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From rakesh.pandit at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 05:59:12 2009 From: rakesh.pandit at gmail.com (Rakesh Pandit) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:29:12 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/23 Arun SAG wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM, sankarshan > wrote: >> >> >Can you please push across the URLs to the ones you noticed ? >> > > Emacs jabber https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508316? the owner > is rakesh it has been there for 6 months. Mbuf really wanted this package, i > remember? him asking for some one to review it in #fedora-devel. > [..] Usually emacs addon packages do take somewhat longer then necessary. It hasn't be assigned to anyone. I have been fairly active on my side. What I would suggest is those who are really interested in helping out, ping Review Sig and call for meeting or brainstorm at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Package_Review http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEW.html (Has all new ones in queue) http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/REVIEW.html (In progress ones) -- Rakesh Pandit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rakesh freedom, friends, features, first From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 06:00:04 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:30:04 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <35586fc00912222200x6eb5c1e1ub2c82ae3be4a4c30@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Arun SAG wrote: > ?I see several review requests are being untouched/unapproved for months. Thank you for posting the BZ# entries in your other mail. > Yes , i do agree that reviewing packages and sponsoring them is a time > consuming and tiresome work :-) . There should be a queue or some thing or > some limit on time how long the packagers have to wait for a sponsor . The above should be put to the Packaging SIG to work out a solution. If this is put forward in the form of a proposal, it might expedite discussion > Potential contributors from india can be asked to file a ticket or something > so that new review requests can be tracked and approved ASAP (yes, we can > ask them to send an email to the? list asking for sponsor/review) . Is there > any way to identify contributors from india and _automatically_ add > fedora-india? to CC list of their review requests? I'd suggest a simpler solution - meet over IRC (#fedora-india) every 10/15 days so that existing or, new review requests can be given a look-see. We do not have too many reviewers but this form of collaborative working might see is increasing our reviewer and packager base. It would need someone to take a lead in arranging the meetings and, ensuring that there are a couple of the reviewers available for a discussion. Keeping the logs would be helpful too. If you are looking for tooling to create a list of existing/new review requests from folks from India, it should perhaps be trivial to use the data in FAS and, do a look-up on BZ to produce a simple report. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From shakthimaan at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 06:02:24 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:32:24 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Arun SAG wrote: | Emacs jabber https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508316? the owner | is rakesh it has been there for 6 months. Mbuf really wanted this package, \-- It opens up a lot of possibilities, especially those that use XMPP. --- | remember? him asking for some one to review it in #fedora-devel. \-- Jason Tibbits ("tibbs|h") is one of the reviewers for Emacs add-ons, I believe. But, he said his work queue was full. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 06:26:08 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:56:08 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Jason Tibbits ("tibbs|h") is one of the reviewers for Emacs add-ons, I > believe. But, he said his work queue was full. How can we get going with [1] unofficial reviews and, [2] official reviews ? Do we have a good number of folks who are capable of [2] ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From debayanin at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 06:28:46 2009 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:58:46 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/23 sankarshan > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Shakthi Kannan > wrote: > > > Jason Tibbits ("tibbs|h") is one of the reviewers for Emacs add-ons, I > > believe. But, he said his work queue was full. > > How can we get going with [1] unofficial reviews and, [2] official > reviews ? Do we have a good number of folks who are capable of [2] ? > Can it be made mandatory for all Fedora Ambassadors to demonstrate reasonably good skills in packaging? -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From debayanin at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 07:02:09 2009 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:32:09 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/23 susmit shannigrahi > > Can it be made mandatory for all Fedora Ambassadors to demonstrate > > reasonably good skills in packaging? > > No. ok. -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 07:11:12 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:41:12 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912222311g10089dc1l1da6dfcc90cc4665@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: > > > 2009/12/23 sankarshan >> >> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Shakthi Kannan >> wrote: >> >> > Jason Tibbits ("tibbs|h") is one of the reviewers for Emacs add-ons, I >> > believe. But, he said his work queue was full. >> >> How can we get going with [1] unofficial reviews and, [2] official >> reviews ? Do we have a good number of folks who are capable of [2] ? > > Can it be made mandatory for all Fedora Ambassadors to demonstrate > reasonably good skills in packaging? No. However, it is expected that Ambassadors will involve themselves in other aspects of The Fedora Project as well. Packaging can be one such. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From debayanin at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 07:22:45 2009 From: debayanin at gmail.com (Debayan Banerjee) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:52:45 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912222311g10089dc1l1da6dfcc90cc4665@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222311g10089dc1l1da6dfcc90cc4665@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/23 sankarshan > > No. However, it is expected that Ambassadors will involve themselves > in other aspects of The Fedora Project as well. Packaging can be one > such. > Is it required for an ambassador to choose among the different ways of contributing from say, this page ? I am not saying that it be made mandatory to choose such a stream of contribution upfront, but having that in the formal process will help others identify who is good at what at a later stage too. -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 07:52:16 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:22:16 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222311g10089dc1l1da6dfcc90cc4665@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Is it required for an ambassador to choose among the different ways of > contributing from say, this page ? I > am not saying that it be made mandatory to choose such a stream of > contribution upfront, but having that in the formal process will help others > identify who is good at what at a later stage too. We proposed this during last FAmSCo but was voted down. We may discuss it again this time. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From shakthimaan at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 08:26:03 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:56:03 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, My thoughts below: --- On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM, sankarshan wrote: | How can we get going with [1] unofficial reviews and, [2] official | reviews ? Do we have a good number of folks who are capable of [2] ? \-- 1. It will be nice if we could have a backlog items that fedora-india packagers are currently reviewing or is in the pipeline. This could be sent to this mailing list periodically so we can see who needs help, and it can also be discussed during our regular IRC meet-ups. Scrum [1] is nice in this regard, when you have an overall product backlog, and the packagers and sponsors can decide on the sprint backlog, and that they will deliver this package within the sprint timeframe, so there is a commitment from every side. 2. I understand Sponsors are limited in number, while the list of packages is huge. It will be helpful if Sponsors can spend atleast 20% of their package reviews with newcomers to packaging. 3. Spins are ideal for newcomers because the Sponsors have a very focussed approach to which packages they need, and when newcomers pick them up, there is a win-win situation for both. Also their backlog (FEL, for example) is very well "Trac"ked. I am not sure if SIGs have something like this, and I believe this is usually left to a Sponsor to review the package, depending on time and availability. If review doesn't happen, newcomers lose interest. 4. People who regularly do packaging already feel that their contribution is useful. But, for newcomers, it is important to periodically see how well they are doing, are there any impediments, where do they need help (not to be read as hand holding or spoon-feeding) but to make sure that they *belong* to the project. It will help them go a long way! SK [1] Scrum (development). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_%28development%29 -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 09:45:18 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:15:18 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912230145i50d5969cq5d9af1354987c2ef@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > 1. It will be nice if we could have a backlog items that fedora-india > packagers are currently reviewing or is in the pipeline. This could be > sent to this mailing list periodically so we can see who needs help, > and it can also be discussed during our regular IRC meet-ups. How can this report generation be done for the first time and, automated thence forth ? > Scrum [1] is nice in this regard, when you have an overall product > backlog, and the packagers and sponsors can decide on the sprint > backlog, and that they will deliver this package within the sprint > timeframe, so there is a commitment from every side. > > 2. I understand Sponsors are limited in number, while the list of > packages is huge. It will be helpful if Sponsors can spend atleast 20% > of their package reviews with newcomers to packaging. Do we have lesser number of contributors who are permitted to undertake official/unofficial reviews ? Or, is it a function of such people not undertaking them often enough ? > 3. Spins are ideal for newcomers because the Sponsors have a very > focussed approach to which packages they need, and when newcomers pick > them up, there is a win-win situation for both. Also their backlog > (FEL, for example) is very well "Trac"ked. I am not sure if SIGs have > something like this, and I believe this is usually left to a Sponsor > to review the package, depending on time and availability. If review > doesn't happen, newcomers lose interest. I'd agree. However, a quick and trivial trawl of the packages under review or, packages reviewed tell me that the trend is more across special niches. Do you think that is not the way to go forward ? > 4. People who regularly do packaging already feel that their > contribution is useful. But, for newcomers, it is important to > periodically see how well they are doing, are there any impediments, > where do they need help (not to be read as hand holding or > spoon-feeding) but to make sure that they *belong* to the project. It > will help them go a long way! How can we make the newcomers feel that they are being welcome and, provide them with the feedback loop that makes them sustaining contributors ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 09:53:02 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:23:02 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222311g10089dc1l1da6dfcc90cc4665@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912230153k97ccc7ena0e70d72a7c7270b@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: > > > 2009/12/23 sankarshan >> >> No. However, it is expected that Ambassadors will involve themselves >> in other aspects of The Fedora Project as well. Packaging can be one >> such. > > Is it required for an ambassador to choose among the different ways of > contributing from say, this page ? I > am not saying that it be made mandatory to choose such a stream of > contribution upfront, but having that in the formal process will help others > identify who is good at what at a later stage too. The last time this was proposed, FAmSCo had reservations accepting it. But, it could be placed again with the current FAmSCo as a proposal. has my take on it. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 09:56:37 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:56:37 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0912230156q63daa27eod5abdaf9417813a8@mail.gmail.com> > 1. It will be nice if we could have a backlog items that fedora-india > packagers are currently reviewing or is in the pipeline. This could be > sent to this mailing list periodically so we can see who needs help, > and it can also be discussed during our regular IRC meet-ups. While we are on this topic, I was reviewing a few packages and the reviews got blocked due to one reason or the other and once those were resolved I got really busy with other things. Would be really nice if someone could step up to finish them off. The most interesting of these are the ones to get SUSE's Zypp stack to work on Fedora: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447738 - libzypp https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447740 - zypper https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442714 - sat-solver At that time those did not work with RPM 4.6 that Fedora had, and the reviews got blocked till upstream made the fixes. I am told the fixes are in place but RPM has also moved along since then one has to make sure that the Zypp folks have kept up with RPM. So if someone is willing to spend some time with RPM, Yum and Zypp on Rawhide then he/she can try continuing the reviews. Thanks, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From rakesh.pandit at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 10:03:09 2009 From: rakesh.pandit at gmail.com (Rakesh Pandit) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:33:09 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/23 Shakthi Kannan wrote: [..] > 2. I understand Sponsors are limited in number, while the list of > packages is huge. It will be helpful if Sponsors can spend atleast 20% > of their package reviews with newcomers to packaging. > [..] This has been discussed before also and I would _again_ suggest (in case you/someone is interested to take this) to move to f-d-l for discussion and put before review sig. -- Rakesh Pandit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rakesh freedom, friends, features, first From shakthimaan at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 10:05:05 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:35:05 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912230145i50d5969cq5d9af1354987c2ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912230145i50d5969cq5d9af1354987c2ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:15 PM, sankarshan wrote: | How can this report generation be done for the first time and, | automated thence forth ? \-- Someone from the Fedora Infrastructure team can answer this? I don't know the Infrastructure setup but, I believe this can be obtained from the FAS accounts? --- | Do we have lesser number of contributors who are permitted to | undertake official/unofficial reviews ? \-- Anyone part of the packaging team can do the review, I believe. Sponsors are the people who give the final approval. --- | Or, is it a function of such | people not undertaking them often enough ? \-- This needs to be answered by newcomers. --- | I'd agree. However, a quick and trivial trawl of the packages under | review or, packages reviewed tell me that the trend is more across | special niches. Do you think that is not the way to go forward ? \-- Special niches are fine. The people who are part of it have their objectives, goals defined, and their vision is clear. What is required is to assist newcomers to align their interests to any of the sub-projects where they begin work. --- | How can we make the newcomers feel that they are being welcome and, | provide them with the feedback loop that makes them sustaining | contributors ? \-- Raise the flag, immediately! If newcomers are stuck or need help, please don't hesitate to ping on IRC (#fedora-india), or simply write to this list. Seriously, we are least bothered about English or grammar. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 10:16:35 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:46:35 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2FE814.2070706@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912230145i50d5969cq5d9af1354987c2ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912230216i4ea6e4d1n8a9ac536a66a688b@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Anyone part of the packaging team can do the review, I believe. > Sponsors are the people who give the final approval. So, is everyone who is 'permitted' do undertake a review, actually doing reviews ? While we are building up newer participants, the existing ones have the duty to be doing their bits. > | How can we make the newcomers feel that they are being welcome and, > | provide them with the feedback loop that makes them sustaining > | contributors ? > \-- > > Raise the flag, immediately! > > If newcomers are stuck or need help, please don't hesitate to ping on > IRC (#fedora-india), or simply write to this list. Seriously, we are > least bothered about English or grammar. Which brings forth a different question - have we unconsciously or, consciously given off the impression that newcomers with their questions are unwelcome ? If we have, that attitude needs to be worked upon. Let us put our heads together and work this out. We now have lots of active folks who are doing stellar work - this is a good time to aim higher. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From shakthimaan at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 10:26:11 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:56:11 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912230216i4ea6e4d1n8a9ac536a66a688b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <35586fc00912222012j52eae460x5c7ca253155cd74@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912222226k5b6a6953gc98d706219d3f1a6@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912230145i50d5969cq5d9af1354987c2ef@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912230216i4ea6e4d1n8a9ac536a66a688b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:46 PM, sankarshan wrote: | Which brings forth a different question - have we unconsciously or, | consciously given off the impression that newcomers with their | questions are unwelcome ? \-- No. It is the false assumption that people have that they need to be fluent to converse, especially when they are non-native speakers of a language. In this regard, mentors (Sponsors) have to work closely with packaging newcomers when they begin work. Regards, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From libregeek at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 13:32:57 2009 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:02:57 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] List migration and fedora-india list In-Reply-To: References: <4B2FA8E4.8050809@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FE785.5090008@fedoraproject.org> <4B2FF730.1020808@fedoraproject.org> <35586fc00912211536t12211ae7vf36614946385757c@mail.gmail.com> <1261456003.8934.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <2315046d0912230532j4b6a32cap7535c302cae5146b@mail.gmail.com> 2009/12/22 Rangeen Basu : >> or "community-india at .." rather than "indian-community at ..."? >> > > How about india at lists.fp.org . indian-community@ somehow sounds very > weird. Even community-india@ is a good option. india at lists.fp.org seems to be in-line with the other list names suggested here : http://jstanley.fedorapeople.org/mlmigration.pdf -- Manilal K M : ???????? ?? ??. http://libregeek.blogspot.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 24 02:30:03 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:00:03 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora Package Reviews and a few tips Message-ID: <4B32D22B.8020009@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Since the topic of delays in package reviews has come up a few times, I wanted to add a few tips: The important link to bookmark is http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ You can also subscribe to http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-review First, let me explain how you can contribute: * Anyone can unofficial reviews of any package waiting in the review queue. Unofficial reviews are reviews where you just add comments but don't assign the review to yourself. You don't need to be a even a package maintainer for that * Any package maintainer can do official review of any packages of any other package maintainer. First time, non sponsored potential package maintainer need a sponsor to do the official review but again, anyone can do unofficial reviews. If you are planning to post reviews and want to get them done quickly: * Post your review requests to fedora-devel list and offer to swap, ex: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg00804.html * Find people in the community who share common interests, for example, spins and SIG (Special Interest groups) listed in the wiki are good places. * Feel free to post to this list or cc this list on your review requests as well. * Maintain a presence in irc, esp #fedora-devel and #fedora-india. It helps to talk to people. * When someone does do a review, try and respond quickly. If you have a history of responding quickly, more people would be interested in your review requests. Hope that helps. Rahul From debarshi.ray at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 13:02:00 2009 From: debarshi.ray at gmail.com (Debarshi Ray) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:02:00 +0200 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <4B2F027F.9030309@gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <35586fc00912202027w1a7b7a6er6178b550c8e42348@mail.gmail.com> <4B2F027F.9030309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3170f42f0912240502m4ee0e93anf167daed0dd3a660@mail.gmail.com> > ? ? ? I'm a CS student and interested in C++ coding. Could you suggest some > projects? http://live.gnome.org/Gnote Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig From skbohra123 at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 16:15:36 2009 From: skbohra123 at gmail.com (shreekant bohra) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:45:36 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Fedora - India meet logs In-Reply-To: <3170f42f0912240502m4ee0e93anf167daed0dd3a660@mail.gmail.com> References: <1261215870.1716.18.camel@localhost> <4B2CC360.7070000@gmail.com> <1261226200.1716.23.camel@localhost> <4B2D325C.3010000@gmail.com> <1261297952.1844.12.camel@localhost> <35586fc00912202027w1a7b7a6er6178b550c8e42348@mail.gmail.com> <4B2F027F.9030309@gmail.com> <3170f42f0912240502m4ee0e93anf167daed0dd3a660@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3f7a9110912240815m631a630ch4cb4de859af440f8@mail.gmail.com> Hi Someone should change the "subject" of this thread, its confusing? isnt it ? 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Rahul From 1985dhawal at gmail.com Sat Dec 26 07:07:34 2009 From: 1985dhawal at gmail.com (DHAWAL GUDA) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:37:34 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] A brief info about myself. In-Reply-To: <5a0f3a3b0912250319p3830c86egaf94e9927dd7eadd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a0f3a3b0912250319p3830c86egaf94e9927dd7eadd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a0f3a3b0912252307u58b9f81axece1e95265cae107@mail.gmail.com> Hello Friends, This is Dhawal from Hyderabad and have recently applied for fedora ambassador community.I am 24years old and am working as a network engineer at HMRI(104) service at Hyderabad. After years of headaches of using Windows I switched to fedora in MAY 2009 and since then never have looked back. I have started teaching my friends and colleagues the basics of Linux and have encouraged them to use Linux on their home systems. I frequently take classes at home on the basics of Computer to school students who can't afford to buy a computer. 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URL: From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sun Dec 27 19:06:38 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:36:38 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Event Report] Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda, Vadodara, Gujarat, India Message-ID: Hi, I had conducted a one-day Fedora, Free Software workshop at the Bachelor of Computer Applications department, Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda (Vadodara), Gujarat, India on Saturday, December 26, 2009. Thanks to VGLUG [1] for coordinating with me for the past few months in organizing this event. I would like to thank the Fedora project for sponsoring the travel. * The BCA department lab systems were equipped to run on Fedora 12, and we used it for couple of the hands-on sessions: - Use of git: di-git-ally managing love letters [2] - Packaging Fedora RPM [3] * I had also addressed the following topics: - i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora [4] - Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems [5] * Participants were from the BCA department, and had also come from Ahmedabad [6]. Vadodara (Baroda) connects to Ahmedabad via a 95km expressway [7]. * Free/Open Source Software is officially included in the Gujarat state school syllabus for higher secondary (XI and XII). In the coming years it is expected to be even introduced from standard VIII. * The Department coordinator and Professor V A Kalamkar is happy to facilitate work between VGLUG, and the students for Free/Open Source Software projects. We hope to have more interaction with them in the future. * VGLUG members are also keen on participating in the Fedora project at various sub-projects of their interests. * Due to the political crisis [8] in Hyderabad, I was uncertain about reaching the Hyderabad airport, and thus making it to the workshop. The bandh was withdrawn for December 25th, and when I made it the airport on the 25th, the scheduled flight was cancelled. So, I had to re-schedule a different flight, but, the airline officials said they couldn't guarantee if I will make it to my connecting flight in Mumbai. This re-scheduled flight got delayed even further. Luckily, my connecting flight also got delayed, and I finally managed to make it to Vadodara. * As customary, here are some photos taken during the trip: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album60 Regards, SK [1] VGLUG. http://www.vglug.info. [2] di-git-ally managing love letters. http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/di-git-ally-managing-love-letters.pdf. [3] Packaging RPM. http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-paneer-butter-masala.pdf. [4] i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora. http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora.pdf [5] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems. http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/badam.halwa.of.embedded.systems.pdf [6] Ahmedabad. http://wikitravel.org/en/Ahmedabad. [7] National Expressway 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Expressway_1. [8] Bandh hits life at Telangana. http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article69789.ece. -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From satyaakam at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 06:03:37 2009 From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyaakam goswami) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:33:37 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] [Event Report] Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda, Vadodara, Gujarat, India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6491e1350912272203o72486efaj9397dab4cdcb66dc@mail.gmail.com> > SK > > [1] VGLUG. http://www.vglug.info. > > [2] di-git-ally managing love letters. > > http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/di-git-ally-managing-love-letters.pdf > . > > [3] Packaging RPM. > > http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-paneer-butter-masala.pdf > . > > [4] i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora. > > http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora.pdf > > [5] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems. > > http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/badam.halwa.of.embedded.systems.pdf > > [6] Ahmedabad. http://wikitravel.org/en/Ahmedabad. > > [7] National Expressway 1. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Expressway_1. > > [8] Bandh hits life at Telangana. > http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article69789.ece. > congrats , especially i liked [2] hopefully i will put this to some use , i think with the kind of content you produce have you thought of creating something showmedo style. -Satya satyaakam.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The LaTeX source is available at: http://gitorious.org/di-git-ally-managing-love-letters There is an IRC log of the presentation for git here (except 'git remote' use case): http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/irclogs/2009/2009-06-30_mbuf_git.log.html Other IRC logs are available at: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/irclogs/2009/ SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From dr.suryagarg at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 05:20:39 2009 From: dr.suryagarg at gmail.com (Surya Prakash Garg) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:50:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Hello All Message-ID: Dear All, I am Surya Prakash Garg, right now at Kanpur, India. i'm 25 Years Old. Currently, I am working as a Technical Head, with a Redhat Training Partner, ICA Infotech Pvt. Ltd. Moreover, I also work as a Corporate Redhat Trainer. But my area of interest is Fedora. 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Message-ID: [x-post - apologies] Do we need to rethink? http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=mofo1&utm_campaign=s100509 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 11:41:26 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:11:26 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Food for thought. Should we rethink out join page? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35586fc00912310341p54fb3ba7j97adf6086bfc9fe5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:51 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Do we need to rethink? > > http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=mofo1&utm_campaign=s100509 The "Time Available" part certainly gives some areas for thought. Thanks for pushing the URL. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From singh.roshan08 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 12:26:12 2009 From: singh.roshan08 at gmail.com (Roshan Singh) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:56:12 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 Message-ID: Hi all, I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the session 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic "Free software. Why is it important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.". The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. Date: 5-7 Feb 2010. Timings of all the events are yet to be decided. We are open to suggestions. -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 12:31:27 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:01:27 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh wrote: > I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise > a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some > Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are > hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. Would it be possible for you to talk a bit more about whether and how the presence last year was helpful ? > 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects > like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to > the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the > session How about you doing this yourself ? > 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic "Free software. Why is it > important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.". > The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. Interesting mashup of panel talks. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From singh.roshan08 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 12:44:43 2009 From: singh.roshan08 at gmail.com (Roshan Singh) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:14:43 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010 In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912310431r36455035r83dbd63adddc93e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:01 PM, sankarshan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh > wrote: > > > I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We > organise > > a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some > > Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we > are > > hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. > > Would it be possible for you to talk a bit more about whether and how > the presence last year was helpful ? > It was helpful definitely since the number of linux users have grown considerably during the past year. Apart from that we have people who are waiting more events this year. It has helped Fedora to become the most used distro is my college :-), which was openSUSE earlier. So now I want to get some contributors from the college which will not be possible if someone drives it. > > 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their > projects > > like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors > to > > the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the > > session > > How about you doing this yourself ? > People listen to me through out the year. It will be better if some one from out side comes. Apart from that I would also like to be in the audience. > > > 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic "Free software. Why is it > > important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.". > > The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. > > Interesting mashup of panel talks. > > -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From madhu122 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 19:01:49 2009 From: madhu122 at gmail.com (madhusudhanrao chandavaram) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:31:49 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] hello Message-ID: <109d83a50912311101n2d5bacecsd21d37281aab9e8f@mail.gmail.com> HI! HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010 I wish you and your family a happy and prosperous New Year. 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