When to rebrand fedora?

[Bryan Kearney]

Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:36 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:48 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>>> Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the "new trademark 
>>>>> policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in 
>>>>> case you hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you 
>>>>> have built it upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to 
>>>>> attendees of your session (which kinda equals to limited 
>>>>> distribution, e.g. non-public). Same might apply to downstream 
>>>>> vendors distributing appliances (like VMWare used to distribute 
>>>>> .vmx files for some operating systems/distributions?)
>>>>>
>>>> This part I'm not so sure of.  "Limited distribution" in an age of
>>>> convenient bit-moving doesn't mean a whole lot.  Rather, we should be
>>>> working on automation for rebranding that makes the whole operation 
>>>> easy
>>>> for anyone that wants to do it -- so the requirement is less onerous.
>>>>
>>> Euh, right, "Limited distribution" is most definitely not the right 
>>> terminology, but I wouldn't want to force people (or ISVs for that 
>>> matter) that hand out Fedora media containing a demo or presentation, 
>>> to rebrand to the fullest because they add non-fedora content. 
>>> Replacing fedora-logos is reasonable, anything beyond makes them go 
>>> to other distributions to use or derive from.
>>
>> I think this *may* be fairly easy to solve in the Live image on USB
>> case.  The part of the file system outside the Live image is completely
>> outside of what we call Fedora.  Including presentation or demo material
>> there doesn't affect the "Fedora-ness" of the Live image.  I would think
>> that any claim it did would be a little strange, because that would
>> affect anyone who uses a Live USB and decides to store some data in that
>> external space.  This is just a preliminary thought.
>>
> 
> Presentations, yes. Video demo's, yes. Placing a file on the desktop 
> though is just as trivially impacting Fedora (eg. none at all) as 
> placing it on the medium. Just a thought.
> 
> Now I want to demo a failover cluster with FooApp failing over nice and 
> clean. Or, I want to pull someone from the audience and boot his/her 
> laptop to join a cluster (again FooApp). These demo's will be given all 
> over Europe maybe, at events, private training sessions (where students 
> take the CD/USB key home for further practice?), and partners and 
> distributors.
> 
> Just to clarify, this is what I had meant by using the word "demo" ;-)
> 
> Kind regards,

Heck... why limit to demos? It could be that someone releases an open 
source Alfresco appliance for real use.

-- bk